Seismic Shift in the East: Thomas Bryant a Wizard

tontoz · Post #181 » by **tontoz** » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:29 am

I wonder who found this guy, because i am certain it wasn't EG.

Post #182 » by **nate33** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:44 pm

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FAH1223 · Post #183 » by **FAH1223** » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:29 am

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payitforward · Post #184 » by **payitforward** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:48 am

tontoz wrote:I wonder who found this guy, because i am certain it wasn't EG.

I'm pretty sure I know how it happened -- & I explained it a few pages back. Basically, Rob Pelinka knew he wasn't going to be able to keep Bryant, knew how promising he was, didn't want to see him in the Western Conference, & called Ernie -- basically told him to pick up this kid.

payitforward · Post #185 » by **payitforward** » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:50 am

Bryant had something of a rough game vs. Charlotte -- when a player comes back the next game & just absolutely kills it the way Bryant did vs. Indy last night, that tells me something.

This kid is really something!

CP War Hawks · Post #186 » by **CP War Hawks** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:25 pm

Could someone explain this dudes contract situation. Is he restricted and will the Wiz spend extra to keep him considering tax considerations.

Post #187 » by **nate33** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:46 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:Could someone explain this dudes contract situation. Is he restricted and will the Wiz spend extra to keep him considering tax considerations.

He is restricted. He has a qualifying offer that, based on playing enough minutes, got increased to $3M. The Wizards will surely extend the QO to make sure he is restricted. Furthermore, he's a 2-year veteran so the Gilbert Arenas provision applies. That means, nobody can offer him a contract bigger than 3-years, with the first 2 years being no more than MLE money and third year being anything up to the max.

Illmatic12 · Post #188 » by **Illmatic12** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:47 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:Could someone explain this dudes contract situation. Is he restricted and will the Wiz spend extra to keep him considering tax considerations.

Bryant is an RFA.
They just moved Porter's $27M off the books, if they decline Parker's option they'll be $20M under the cap. I don't see why they wouldn't match any reasonable offers on Bryant (personally I'd draw a cut off at $7M/yr or so, but others here are higher on him than myself)

pcbothwel · Post #189 » by **pcbothwel** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 6:57 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:Could someone explain this dudes contract situation. Is he restricted and will the Wiz spend extra to keep him considering tax considerations.

1) Yes, hes an RFA
2) Yes, he will be kept and we are nowhere near the tax.
The tax is at 132M and we are at 89M with Wall, Beal, Mahinmi, Dwight, and Brown.
Our pick, Sato, and Bryant would be about 20M at most...
They probably waive/stretch Mahinmi and resign Randle, Green, portis and Ariza for another 20M
So 89M + 20M + 20M = 129M - 10M (Mahinmi Stretch) =

119M for the following team:

Sato / Randle / Wall
Beal / Brown
Ariza / Brown
Green / (Hachimura)
Bryant / Portis / Dwight

- That gives us 12-13M under the tax to use the Full MLE and/or Bi-Annual exception

Personally, I think I would just keep Mahinmi and simply trade Dwight, Green, or Ariza at the deadline for cap savings and a 2nd.

CP War Hawks · Post #190 » by **CP War Hawks** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 7:46 pm

nate33 wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:Could someone explain this dudes contract situation. Is he restricted and will the Wiz spend extra to keep him considering tax considerations.

He is restricted. He has a qualifying offer that, based on playing enough minutes, got increased to $3M. The Wizards will surely extend the QO to make sure he is restricted. Furthermore, he's a 2-year veteran so the Gilbert Arenas provision applies. That means, nobody can offer him a contract bigger than 3-years, with the first 2 years being no more than MLE money and third year being anything up to the max.

What I was really wondering is what is the max for a 2nd rd restricted FA these days. The rookie max for 1st rounders is what 17.5m. I 'd assumed the Lakers cutting him affected his early bird rights.

Post #191 » by **nate33** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:23 pm

CP War Hawks wrote:
nate33 wrote:
CP War Hawks wrote:Could someone explain this dudes contract situation. Is he restricted and will the Wiz spend extra to keep him considering tax considerations.

He is restricted. He has a qualifying offer that, based on playing enough minutes, got increased to $3M. The Wizards will surely extend the QO to make sure he is restricted. Furthermore, he's a 2-year veteran so the Gilbert Arenas provision applies. That means, nobody can offer him a contract bigger than 3-years, with the first 2 years being no more than MLE money and third year being anything up to the max.

What I was really wondering is what is the max for a 2nd rd restricted FA these days. The rookie max for 1st rounders is what 17.5m. I 'd assumed the Lakers cutting him affected his early bird rights.

He cannot earn more than the MLE in each of the next 2 years. That's about $9M a year.

The biggest contract he could conceivably be offered would be one that pays $9M, $9.45M, $29.5M, $30.8M in the next 4 years respectively. A team would need $19.7M in cap room this summer to extend that offer.

CP War Hawks · Post #192 » by **CP War Hawks** » Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:32 pm

^ Thanks, I think I got the gist.

prime1time · Post #193 » by **prime1time** » Tue Apr 2, 2019 3:51 pm

Bump. I like the way this guy plays. In both him and Troy Brown Jr. we have guys who are passionate about the game and want to get better. We need to bring both of them back. People really underestimate just how positive of an impact being cut from a team can be. To be cut from a team and see everything you've worked for just disappear is a jarring moment for a young player. I also love the energy and passion he brings to the game.

The question now, however, is how much can Thomas Bryant improve. What is his ceiling. This off-season I think he works on improving his 3-point shot, getting in better shape, reviewing tape for defense and working on his post game. He may never be a great one-on-one scorer but it terms of pick-and-pop rim running and being a defensive anchor I think he has major potential. I'm interested to get everyone else's opinion though.

Ruzious · Post #194 » by **Ruzious** » Tue Apr 2, 2019 5:47 pm

prime1time wrote:Bump. I like the way this guy plays. In both him and Troy Brown Jr. we have guys who are passionate about the game and want to get better. We need to bring both of them back. People really underestimate just how positive of an impact being cut from a team can be. To be cut from a team and see everything you've worked for just disappear is a jarring moment for a young player. I also love the energy and passion he brings to the game.

The question now, however, is how much can Thomas Bryant improve. What is his ceiling. This off-season I think he works on improving his 3-point shot, getting in better shape, reviewing tape for defense and working on his post game. He may never be a great one-on-one scorer but it terms of pick-and-pop rim running and being a defensive anchor I think he has major potential. I'm interested to get everyone else's opinion though.

Bryant is old school and new school at the same time. He's got GREAT hands and the ability to seal off a defender - plus a wide frame with length - really he's already an elite inside scorer. And he's adjusted to the new school by establishing the beginnings of a quality 3 points shooting threat. Agreed with what you said he should work on. Skies the limit - even if he does look a bit awkward when he starts running up the court.

tontoz · Post #195 » by **tontoz** » Wed Apr 3, 2019 1:11 am

Funny that this thread was created with a bit of sarcasm and this guy has been exactly the type of player Grunfeld has failed to find over the years. Young, cheap and productive.

18/11 per 36 minutes with a TS of 66.5%... at age 21.

payitforward · Post #196 » by **payitforward** » Wed Apr 3, 2019 2:04 am

Ruzious wrote:
prime1time wrote:Bump. I like the way this guy plays. In both him and Troy Brown Jr. we have guys who are passionate about the game and want to get better. We need to bring both of them back. People really underestimate just how positive of an impact being cut from a team can be. To be cut from a team and see everything you've worked for just disappear is a jarring moment for a young player. I also love the energy and passion he brings to the game.

The question now, however, is how much can Thomas Bryant improve. What is his ceiling. This off-season I think he works on improving his 3-point shot, getting in better shape, reviewing tape for defense and working on his post game. He may never be a great one-on-one scorer but it terms of pick-and-pop rim running and being a defensive anchor I think he has major potential. I'm interested to get everyone else's opinion though.

Bryant is old school and new school at the same time. He's got GREAT hands and the ability to seal off a defender - plus a wide frame with length - really he's already an elite inside scorer. And he's adjusted to the new school by establishing the beginnings of a quality 3 points shooting threat. Agreed with what you said he should work on. Skies the limit - even if he does look a bit awkward when he starts running up the court.

Excellent description -- except I don't remember seeing him look awkward when running. Plus, he's already a better 3-pt. shooter than he's showing (if that can possibly make sense). He was .364 on 3's in the G League last year on almost 6.5 attempts per 40 minutes. This year he's only taking @2.6 per 40 minutes. Of course, since he's shooting 67.2% on 2's maybe they don't need to run plays for him shooting the 3??

Ruzious · Post #197 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Apr 3, 2019 9:46 am

payitforward wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
prime1time wrote:Bump. I like the way this guy plays. In both him and Troy Brown Jr. we have guys who are passionate about the game and want to get better. We need to bring both of them back. People really underestimate just how positive of an impact being cut from a team can be. To be cut from a team and see everything you've worked for just disappear is a jarring moment for a young player. I also love the energy and passion he brings to the game.

The question now, however, is how much can Thomas Bryant improve. What is his ceiling. This off-season I think he works on improving his 3-point shot, getting in better shape, reviewing tape for defense and working on his post game. He may never be a great one-on-one scorer but it terms of pick-and-pop rim running and being a defensive anchor I think he has major potential. I'm interested to get everyone else's opinion though.

Bryant is old school and new school at the same time. He's got GREAT hands and the ability to seal off a defender - plus a wide frame with length - really he's already an elite inside scorer. And he's adjusted to the new school by establishing the beginnings of a quality 3 points shooting threat. Agreed with what you said he should work on. Skies the limit - even if he does look a bit awkward when he starts running up the court.

Excellent description -- except I don't remember seeing him look awkward when running. Plus, he's already a better 3-pt. shooter than he's showing (if that can possibly make sense). He was .364 on 3's in the G League last year on almost 6.5 attempts per 40 minutes. This year he's only taking @2.6 per 40 minutes. Of course, since he's shooting 67.2% on 2's maybe they don't need to run plays for him shooting the 3??

It's much easier to notice things like that when you go to a game and can watch the whole floor rather than what only tv cameras show you. It's actually very obvious.

FAH1223 · Post #198 » by **FAH1223** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:34 pm

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queridiculo · Post #199 » by **queridiculo** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:49 pm

Assuming the Wizards manage to bring him back, I'd love to see him paired with Brandon Clarke.

His ability to run the rim and stretch the floor would offset some of the weaknesses in Clarke's game and at the same time, combining Bryants length with an eraser like Clarke could really do wonders for Washington on the defensive end.

queridiculo · Post #200 » by **queridiculo** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:52 pm

tontoz wrote:Funny that this thread was created with a bit of sarcasm and this guy has been exactly the type of player Grunfeld has failed to find over the years. Young, cheap and productive.

18/11 per 36 minutes with a TS of 66.5%... at age 21.

The strong tank to close the season combined with Bryants play, perhaps the only bright spots in a forgettable year?

Of course we never would have found out about Bryant if not for Howards injury, so I am hesitant to extend credit to Grunfeld for signing him.

He clearly was an afterthought, would he even have made the roster if not for Howard "glute" injury?