Dat2U wrote:DCZards wrote:It would be a mistake to trade Beal. In today’s NBA you need 2 (probably 3) top 25 players to compete for a title. Trading a top 25 player like Beal with the hope of eventually securing 2-3 other top 25 players is a huge gamble.
Beal is young and continues to get better. He has yet to reach his peak, imo. He’s a high-character, high-work ethic guy who plays hard all the time and seems to have fun playing the game. BB is also growing in his role as a team leader. That’s the kind of person you want to be the face of your franchise.
If Beal wants to stay in DC and is committed to doing that, I think the Zards would be wise to build around him.
To me, this is a clear case of “a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.”
The math doesnt add up. You have Wall under contract for the next 4 years with the super max. Beal is due an extension and wants the max. How do you put a team around Beal that can actually do something?
You can't. How do you suppose the Wizards acquire the one to two other stars they need? Draft? It isn't going to be through free agency.
The future is real predictable. We'll max Beal out, be stuck on a one way train to nowhere and will end dealing him for pennies on the dollar once he's got his extension and demands a trade.
So what's the rosy scenario for a Beal led team where the second best player is either Thomas Bryant or Tomas Satoransky?
The NBA is a fluke league. Nuggets traded Gobert AND Donovan Mitchell to the Jazz, yet they're still 8 games ahead of them and a top team in the west. Rebuilding is a fluke game.
The top teams in the east with potential to win a championship this year -
Bucks :
2005 - #1 Andrew Bogut
2006 - "acquiring Jamaal Magloire (the player selected in Milwaukee's slot, Cedric Simmons, appeared in just 75 NBA games)"
2007 - #6 Yi Jianlian
2008 - #8 Joe Alexander
2009 - #10 Brandon Jennings
2010 - #15 Larry Sanders
2011 - #11 Jimmer Fredette (traded )
2012 - #14 John Henson
2013 - #15 Giannis
2014 - #2 Jabari Parker
2015 - #17 Rashad Vaughn
2016 - #10 Thon Maker
Only needed a non-lottery foreign prospect, second rounder from UVA, and a G-leaguer. Capitalized on disgruntled Bledsoe forcing his way out of the Suns, and Lopez signed a 1 year $3,000,000 contract.
Raptors:
2006 - #1 Andrea Bargnani
2007 - none
2008 - #17 Roy Hibbert
2009 - #9 DeMar DeRozan
2010 - #13 Ed Davis
2011 - #5 Jonas Valanciunas
2012 - #8 Terrence Ross
2014 - #20 Bruno Cabocolo
2015 - #20 Delon Wright
Kawhi out of nowhere demands a trade, and the Spurs wanted a win-now player instead of the best possible package of future assets (hard to see any other franchise wanting that in the future for their unhappy superstar). Drafted #27 Siakam.
Sixers:
Sam Hinkie destroyed any chance of another "process". With the new odds tank at your own peril .
Orlando Magic are in their 6th year of rebuilding with 6 lottery picks (five of them being in the top six) and they are just now competing for the 8th seed. Kings with
12 straight years of lottery picks, only now competing for the 8th seed. T-Wolves and Pelicans wasting/wasted their #1 pick big men.
The three teams of the future* people agree on - Mavs had 3 lottery picks from 2000-2018 (3 since 2013), and then were gifted Luka and Kristaps in one year. Hawks traded Luka away, still had 3 picks in one of the deepest drafts in a long while. Bulls got Markannen in a Butler trade, the other pieces are questionable, got Otto as a salary dump. Other potential teams: Suns are terrible and Ayton and Booker are already unhappy. Nets, thought to be dead after they traded all of their high draft picks away, now they finally get their picks back and aren't even in the lottery.
For the Wizards, all this doom and gloom of having a 25 year old, 2x all star, arguably top 3 at his position. As for the other guard Wall, I don't buy that he's going to be a terrible player when he comes back. He ended his bone spurs season with 21/4/9 with 2 steals and 1 block, and his eFG% - for what it's worth - was the highest of his career, his TS% second highest, even with his FT shooting down .80 points of his career average, and his 3pt shooting down .70 points from last year. Call me a Wall homer, but I think he'll evolve his game, and if Beal keeps being accoladed by the league, and if the Wizards get a coach Wall respects, he'll accept being 2nd fiddle.
Since 04 -
Single title:
Boston went from winning 24 games in 2007 and losing the lottery, to winning 66 games in 2008 and winning the finals because they turned Al Jefferson(15) Gerald Green (18) Ryan Gomes (50) Jeff Green (5) into Ray Allen and KG; Dallas Mavericks had won at least 50 games every season since 2000, no lottery picks, and in six of those years they had no first round picks; Miami with Payton, Mourning, O'Neal and Wade.
Multiple titles:
Spurs juggernaut that won't be recreated. Lakers well built with a top 3 player. Curry era defining Warriors against injured Cavs, then with a KD free agent superteam, Cavs/Heat with the GOAT of a generation LeBron.
Because Wizards will never be a free agent destination, it will take a miracle, not a rebuild, to ever hope of winning a title. Most great teams will never win a title. I'd say the strategy of keep Beal + major fluke has as good or better % chance as the total rebuild at winning a championship. Imagine if the Wizards got the #2 pick in 2010. I doubt they even win 1 playoff series. And from now on you tank with terrible odds in shallow drafts - and if they don't adjust rookie contracts when high schoolers come out you're forced to hand out 5 year maxes to 21 year olds because your team has no way to improve besides the draft.