2019 NBA Draft Prep

[King Ken]

Please note, I would take Zion. I think Zion is one in a generation type and the best package of offense and defense I've seen, especially defense. He is 6'7 with a 6'10 wingspan which isn't ideal for a 4 or 5 but he is not your average 4 or 5. I compare him defensively to Ben Wallace who had every similar measurables but didn't have no where near Zion's skill, talent, or athletic ability.

I am showing R.J. takes because he is an elite prospect up there with the big 5 from last year. Obviously, Zion is better than them all as a prospect.

[Spud2nique]

Luka shot at a worse percentage than R.J. last year
https://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/players/luka-doncic-1.html

Well Harden is an elite shooter. I agree. R.J. is shooting. 33% from three on 6.3 attempts a game. Far too much foolishness on this R.J. can't shoot train

I disagree, Trae would be a great fit with R.J. Trae fits everybody.

I’m worried RJ doesn’t fit with everybody though.. I mean you have to admit he is a ball dominant player. I need to see him move without the ball...I haven’t seen that.

I dunno if we are in a position to draft RJ or Morant we might want to sell to the highest bidder for:

1. Super young players that FIT with high ceilings.

Or

2. Find a team in desperation mode like Orlando or Washington (although I hate trading within the same conf. let alone division) and bank on them to suck and try to grab their 2020 UNPROTECTED first.

He is ball dominant but he's not ball negative. He has a great feel for the game. His issue is, wanting to make plays too much. When he just lets the game come to him, he is a dominant player in points, rebounds, and assists. He also is Duke's best off the ball player. He does a lot of things that goes underrated because he is playing college basketball. We have seen him move off the ball often every game. Why do you think he gets the ball so often in scoring opportunities. He is constantly moving. He is the best on our team at moving into scoring situations. It's part of his skill that goes underrated by the masses.

I disagree, if we land 1 or 2, keep it. NO MATTER WHAT. I see superstar potential with both prospects. I also see it with Ja Morant but we got Trae so

I see three superstars in this draft. After that, you got potential in this draft but most are far away or the ones who are close lack All Star much less superstar potential.

I would consider moving up for Barrett with both picks. That's how much I rate him. You are talking about a 19 y.o. who can score 20+ a game to go with Trae. I am not passing on that. This is a 20/5/5 rookie. I am not passing on that. We passed on Luka already. I am not passing on that type again. Him and Trae will work extremely well together.

You are almost convincing me. I will say he is a very smart player, I’m just worried that if we draft him that he’s a natural fit. Of course you CAN play anybody with Trae but which player will maximize their skills off Trae and vice versa.

For example, if Cam is running off screens and gunning threes in transition off crazy Nash/Stockton/White Chocolate passes by Trae or if we have 2 generals in Trae and RJ controlling an uptempo style but not necessarily bringing out each other’s maximum potentials?

I’m a definite NO on Morant. I can’t see Westbrook in this kid. I see a more aggressive Sexton and I hate that.

[Spud2nique]

Please note, I would take Zion. I think Zion is one in a generation type and the best package of offense and defense I've seen, especially defense. He is 6'7 with a 6'10 wingspan which isn't ideal for a 4 or 5 but he is not your average 4 or 5. I compare him defensively to Ben Wallace who had every similar measurables but didn't have no where near Zion's skill, talent, or athletic ability.

I am showing R.J. takes because he is an elite prospect up there with the big 5 from last year. Obviously, Zion is better than them all as a prospect.

We get Zion and I’m good with anything.

End o discussion

[Hazer]

If we get #1 pick you snag Zion, take your ball, and go home. Game over

[King Ken]

I’m worried RJ doesn’t fit with everybody though.. I mean you have to admit he is a ball dominant player. I need to see him move without the ball...I haven’t seen that.

I dunno if we are in a position to draft RJ or Morant we might want to sell to the highest bidder for:

1. Super young players that FIT with high ceilings.

Or

2. Find a team in desperation mode like Orlando or Washington (although I hate trading within the same conf. let alone division) and bank on them to suck and try to grab their 2020 UNPROTECTED first.

He is ball dominant but he's not ball negative. He has a great feel for the game. His issue is, wanting to make plays too much. When he just lets the game come to him, he is a dominant player in points, rebounds, and assists. He also is Duke's best off the ball player. He does a lot of things that goes underrated because he is playing college basketball. We have seen him move off the ball often every game. Why do you think he gets the ball so often in scoring opportunities. He is constantly moving. He is the best on our team at moving into scoring situations. It's part of his skill that goes underrated by the masses.

I disagree, if we land 1 or 2, keep it. NO MATTER WHAT. I see superstar potential with both prospects. I also see it with Ja Morant but we got Trae so

I see three superstars in this draft. After that, you got potential in this draft but most are far away or the ones who are close lack All Star much less superstar potential.

I would consider moving up for Barrett with both picks. That's how much I rate him. You are talking about a 19 y.o. who can score 20+ a game to go with Trae. I am not passing on that. This is a 20/5/5 rookie. I am not passing on that. We passed on Luka already. I am not passing on that type again. Him and Trae will work extremely well together.

You are almost convincing me. I will say he is a very smart player, I’m just worried that if we draft him that he’s a natural fit. Of course you CAN play anybody with Trae but which player will maximize their skills off Trae and vice versa.

For example, if Cam is running off screens and gunning threes in transition off crazy Nash/Stockton/White Chocolate passes by Trae or if we have 2 generals in Trae and RJ controlling an uptempo style but not necessarily bringing out each other’s maximum potentials?

I’m a definite NO on Morant. I can’t see Westbrook in this kid. I see a more aggressive Sexton and I hate that.

I see what you are saying with maximizing Trae's skills. I just think you need to protect him on defense at the 5. The 5 will always be the most important player for Trae or the 4. The reason why is because that player needs to be a rim protector, defend in space, able to protect Collins, and still good enough to screen well and play the PnR well. PnP is not needed as much although having a center who can shoot threes would be nice.

Cam is going to need a lot of time. He is very raw. That said, his ceiling is crazy good. Maybe higher than R.J. but you need just as much for him and more than you did for Trae. Cam will need a quality vet in front of him. He will need to learn how to play the position in the NBA. For the PG talk, PG learned from a NBA All Star in Danny Granger. You need that guy so he can be an understudy. I believe you rush Cam and he will be a bust.

I believe Trae and R.J. will be just as effective. Just in different ways. Also, we have to remember, no one in amateur basketball is as good in transition as R.J. is. No one. R.J. is a great fit. He is not the perfect fit like Cam at his max is but Cam at his max will take a lot of work and GMing and it's not just on Hawks University either which R.J. is just plug and play like Hunter. You don't need to add batteries or get extra parts to make it work.

I love Ja. I was higher on him as a prospect than Trae but potentially, I see them the same. Ja isn't the scorer or shooter Trae is but Ja half court ability is tremendous with the PnR.

If Trae is a blend of Lillard/Nash/Zeke for me potentially, Ja is a blend of Westbrook/Fox/Schroeder with a better floor game and court vision than these three as a prospect but lacking the ball hawk abilities or defensive intensity of those guys as prospects. I like him passing vision a lot. If you don't like Westbrook, Dennis, or Fox, there is a chance you might not like Morant. His decision making skills is questionable. His shooting form is like Dennis. His defensive effort is Dennis like. But his court vision is elite. His PnR skills is elite. His skill level is higher then those three as prospects. His ability to dominate the stat sheet will remind you of Westbrook and he is an elite athlete. I love him as a prospect. He is translatable for me. More than Trae was. I felt Trae needed to go to the right situation which will build around him, give him a vet to start over him or cut his mins and let him learn the NBA game. I felt we did all of that and we are now seeing the fruits of our labor. For Morant, I feel he can come in next year and give a team a major boost offensively. He is smart and knows how to run an offense. I think his potential is sky high like Trae's.

[Hazer]

He is ball dominant but he's not ball negative. He has a great feel for the game. His issue is, wanting to make plays too much. When he just lets the game come to him, he is a dominant player in points, rebounds, and assists. He also is Duke's best off the ball player. He does a lot of things that goes underrated because he is playing college basketball. We have seen him move off the ball often every game. Why do you think he gets the ball so often in scoring opportunities. He is constantly moving. He is the best on our team at moving into scoring situations. It's part of his skill that goes underrated by the masses.

I disagree, if we land 1 or 2, keep it. NO MATTER WHAT. I see superstar potential with both prospects. I also see it with Ja Morant but we got Trae so

I see three superstars in this draft. After that, you got potential in this draft but most are far away or the ones who are close lack All Star much less superstar potential.

I would consider moving up for Barrett with both picks. That's how much I rate him. You are talking about a 19 y.o. who can score 20+ a game to go with Trae. I am not passing on that. This is a 20/5/5 rookie. I am not passing on that. We passed on Luka already. I am not passing on that type again. Him and Trae will work extremely well together.

You are almost convincing me. I will say he is a very smart player, I’m just worried that if we draft him that he’s a natural fit. Of course you CAN play anybody with Trae but which player will maximize their skills off Trae and vice versa.

For example, if Cam is running off screens and gunning threes in transition off crazy Nash/Stockton/White Chocolate passes by Trae or if we have 2 generals in Trae and RJ controlling an uptempo style but not necessarily bringing out each other’s maximum potentials?

I’m a definite NO on Morant. I can’t see Westbrook in this kid. I see a more aggressive Sexton and I hate that.

I see what you are saying with maximizing Trae's skills. I just think you need to protect him on defense at the 5. The 5 will always be the most important player for Trae or the 4. The reason why is because that player needs to be a rim protector, defend in space, able to protect Collins, and still good enough to screen well and play the PnR well. PnP is not needed as much although having a center who can shoot threes would be nice.

Cam is going to need a lot of time. He is very raw. That said, his ceiling is crazy good. Maybe higher than R.J. but you need just as much for him and more than you did for Trae. Cam will need a quality vet in front of him. He will need to learn how to play the position in the NBA. For the PG talk, PG learned from a NBA All Star in Danny Granger. You need that guy so he can be an understudy. I believe you rush Cam and he will be a bust.

I believe Trae and R.J. will be just as effective. Just in different ways. Also, we have to remember, no one in amateur basketball is as good in transition as R.J. is. No one. R.J. is a great fit. He is not the perfect fit like Cam at his max is but Cam at his max will take a lot of work and GMing and it's not just on Hawks University either which R.J. is just plug and play like Hunter. You don't need to add batteries or get extra parts to make it work.

I love Ja. I was higher on him as a prospect than Trae but potentially, I see them the same. Ja isn't the scorer or shooter Trae is but Ja half court ability is tremendous with the PnR.

If Trae is a blend of Lillard/Nash/Zeke for me potentially, Ja is a blend of Westbrook/Fox/Schroeder with a better floor game and court vision than these three as a prospect but lacking the ball hawk abilities or defensive intensity of those guys as prospects. I like him passing vision a lot. If you don't like Westbrook, Dennis, or Fox, there is a chance you might not like Morant. His decision making skills is questionable. His shooting form is like Dennis. His defensive effort is Dennis like. But his court vision is elite. His PnR skills is elite. His skill level is higher then those three as prospects. His ability to dominate the stat sheet will remind you of Westbrook and he is an elite athlete. I love him as a prospect. He is translatable for me. More than Trae was. I felt Trae needed to go to the right situation which will build around him, give him a vet to start over him or cut his mins and let him learn the NBA game. I felt we did all of that and we are now seeing the fruits of our labor. For Morant, I feel he can come in next year and give a team a major boost offensively. He is smart and knows how to run an offense. I think his potential is sky high like Trae's.

You’ll hear zero complaints from The Hazer if Col Schlenk drafts RJ and ‘Dre in the lottery. Nor if he trades Not-So-Fresh Printz and a couple of our 2nds for a late teens pick where he snags Johntay. Total coup if we’re able to walk away from this draft with Barrett, Hunter, and Porter to add to Young and Collins. Add a Max Star in ‘20 and damn son...

[Spud2nique]

He is ball dominant but he's not ball negative. He has a great feel for the game. His issue is, wanting to make plays too much. When he just lets the game come to him, he is a dominant player in points, rebounds, and assists. He also is Duke's best off the ball player. He does a lot of things that goes underrated because he is playing college basketball. We have seen him move off the ball often every game. Why do you think he gets the ball so often in scoring opportunities. He is constantly moving. He is the best on our team at moving into scoring situations. It's part of his skill that goes underrated by the masses.

I disagree, if we land 1 or 2, keep it. NO MATTER WHAT. I see superstar potential with both prospects. I also see it with Ja Morant but we got Trae so

I see three superstars in this draft. After that, you got potential in this draft but most are far away or the ones who are close lack All Star much less superstar potential.

I would consider moving up for Barrett with both picks. That's how much I rate him. You are talking about a 19 y.o. who can score 20+ a game to go with Trae. I am not passing on that. This is a 20/5/5 rookie. I am not passing on that. We passed on Luka already. I am not passing on that type again. Him and Trae will work extremely well together.

You are almost convincing me. I will say he is a very smart player, I’m just worried that if we draft him that he’s a natural fit. Of course you CAN play anybody with Trae but which player will maximize their skills off Trae and vice versa.

For example, if Cam is running off screens and gunning threes in transition off crazy Nash/Stockton/White Chocolate passes by Trae or if we have 2 generals in Trae and RJ controlling an uptempo style but not necessarily bringing out each other’s maximum potentials?

I’m a definite NO on Morant. I can’t see Westbrook in this kid. I see a more aggressive Sexton and I hate that.

I see what you are saying with maximizing Trae's skills. I just think you need to protect him on defense at the 5. The 5 will always be the most important player for Trae or the 4. The reason why is because that player needs to be a rim protector, defend in space, able to protect Collins, and still good enough to screen well and play the PnR well. PnP is not needed as much although having a center who can shoot threes would be nice.

Cam is going to need a lot of time. He is very raw. That said, his ceiling is crazy good. Maybe higher than R.J. but you need just as much for him and more than you did for Trae. Cam will need a quality vet in front of him. He will need to learn how to play the position in the NBA. For the PG talk, PG learned from a NBA All Star in Danny Granger. You need that guy so he can be an understudy. I believe you rush Cam and he will be a bust.

I believe Trae and R.J. will be just as effective. Just in different ways. Also, we have to remember, no one in amateur basketball is as good in transition as R.J. is. No one. R.J. is a great fit. He is not the perfect fit like Cam at his max is but Cam at his max will take a lot of work and GMing and it's not just on Hawks University either which R.J. is just plug and play like Hunter. You don't need to add batteries or get extra parts to make it work.

I love Ja. I was higher on him as a prospect than Trae but potentially, I see them the same. Ja isn't the scorer or shooter Trae is but Ja half court ability is tremendous with the PnR.

If Trae is a blend of Lillard/Nash/Zeke for me potentially, Ja is a blend of Westbrook/Fox/Schroeder with a better floor game and court vision than these three as a prospect but lacking the ball hawk abilities or defensive intensity of those guys as prospects. I like him passing vision a lot. If you don't like Westbrook, Dennis, or Fox, there is a chance you might not like Morant. His decision making skills is questionable. His shooting form is like Dennis. His defensive effort is Dennis like. But his court vision is elite. His PnR skills is elite. His skill level is higher then those three as prospects. His ability to dominate the stat sheet will remind you of Westbrook and he is an elite athlete. I love him as a prospect. He is translatable for me. More than Trae was. I felt Trae needed to go to the right situation which will build around him, give him a vet to start over him or cut his mins and let him learn the NBA game. I felt we did all of that and we are now seeing the fruits of our labor. For Morant, I feel he can come in next year and give a team a major boost offensively. He is smart and knows how to run an offense. I think his potential is sky high like Trae's.

Nice breakdown soups. I do see RJ running n gunning in transition quite a bit. I wouldn’t be mad at the pick but it would be a more mysterious type of offense vs drafting Cam and knowing almost exactly what the game plan will be. RJ is the god son of Nash and has been groomed like Bagley almost all his life so no doubt he will transfer nicely to the pros.

Agree that Cam needs a couple years but we are playing the correct long championship rebuild and we have to be patient imo. But like you said, draft him but get him a vet like VC again to learn.

I keep watching Ja, I need more tape on this kid. I don’t love his game. He seems erratic, not super decisive or too decisive (doesn’t call audibles well his ego wants him to do what he initially wanted and I hate that..u gotta be able to change on the run). I need more everything from him.

[Spud2nique]

If we get #1 pick you snag Zion, take your ball, and go home. Game over

Yes sir!!! I don’t think I’ll sleep for a week. Also, if you thought Lin brought fans, let’s just expect 20k new fans on draft lottery night if we land #1!

Speaking of taking your ball and going home... where is... nevermind

[Spud2nique]

Supes ur Dennis to Ja comparison scares me in a bad way lol. I’m not spending a top 3 pick on a Dennis clone.

[King Ken]

You are almost convincing me. I will say he is a very smart player, I’m just worried that if we draft him that he’s a natural fit. Of course you CAN play anybody with Trae but which player will maximize their skills off Trae and vice versa.

For example, if Cam is running off screens and gunning threes in transition off crazy Nash/Stockton/White Chocolate passes by Trae or if we have 2 generals in Trae and RJ controlling an uptempo style but not necessarily bringing out each other’s maximum potentials?

I’m a definite NO on Morant. I can’t see Westbrook in this kid. I see a more aggressive Sexton and I hate that.

I see what you are saying with maximizing Trae's skills. I just think you need to protect him on defense at the 5. The 5 will always be the most important player for Trae or the 4. The reason why is because that player needs to be a rim protector, defend in space, able to protect Collins, and still good enough to screen well and play the PnR well. PnP is not needed as much although having a center who can shoot threes would be nice.

Cam is going to need a lot of time. He is very raw. That said, his ceiling is crazy good. Maybe higher than R.J. but you need just as much for him and more than you did for Trae. Cam will need a quality vet in front of him. He will need to learn how to play the position in the NBA. For the PG talk, PG learned from a NBA All Star in Danny Granger. You need that guy so he can be an understudy. I believe you rush Cam and he will be a bust.

I believe Trae and R.J. will be just as effective. Just in different ways. Also, we have to remember, no one in amateur basketball is as good in transition as R.J. is. No one. R.J. is a great fit. He is not the perfect fit like Cam at his max is but Cam at his max will take a lot of work and GMing and it's not just on Hawks University either which R.J. is just plug and play like Hunter. You don't need to add batteries or get extra parts to make it work.

I love Ja. I was higher on him as a prospect than Trae but potentially, I see them the same. Ja isn't the scorer or shooter Trae is but Ja half court ability is tremendous with the PnR.

If Trae is a blend of Lillard/Nash/Zeke for me potentially, Ja is a blend of Westbrook/Fox/Schroeder with a better floor game and court vision than these three as a prospect but lacking the ball hawk abilities or defensive intensity of those guys as prospects. I like him passing vision a lot. If you don't like Westbrook, Dennis, or Fox, there is a chance you might not like Morant. His decision making skills is questionable. His shooting form is like Dennis. His defensive effort is Dennis like. But his court vision is elite. His PnR skills is elite. His skill level is higher then those three as prospects. His ability to dominate the stat sheet will remind you of Westbrook and he is an elite athlete. I love him as a prospect. He is translatable for me. More than Trae was. I felt Trae needed to go to the right situation which will build around him, give him a vet to start over him or cut his mins and let him learn the NBA game. I felt we did all of that and we are now seeing the fruits of our labor. For Morant, I feel he can come in next year and give a team a major boost offensively. He is smart and knows how to run an offense. I think his potential is sky high like Trae's.

Nice breakdown soups. I do see RJ running n gunning in transition quite a bit. I wouldn’t be mad at the pick but it would be a more mysterious type of offense vs drafting Cam and knowing almost exactly what the game plan will be. RJ is the god son of Nash and has been groomed like Bagley almost all his life so no doubt he will transfer nicely to the pros.

Agree that Cam needs a couple years but we are playing the correct long championship rebuild and we have to be patient imo. But like you said, draft him but get him a vet like VC again to learn.

I keep watching Ja, I need more tape on this kid. I don’t love his game. He seems erratic, not super decisive or too decisive (doesn’t call audibles well his ego wants him to do what he initially wanted and I hate that..u gotta be able to change on the run). I need more everything from him.

Agreed. I been hearing about R.J. since he was in middle school. He was bred to play.

I would say a vet like Jeremy Lin was for Trae. Someone who can actually play. VC really can't play. There are a number of guys out there so that's for Travis if that's the direction he goes.

He might not be your cup of tea. Morant like Trae is not for everyone.

[King Ken]

Supes ur Dennis to Ja comparison scares me in a bad way lol. I’m not spending a top 3 pick on a Dennis clone.

He is a lot more talented, skilled, athletic, and has way better PG skills than Dennis did but he does have some similarities with Dennis.

[Buzzard]

You are almost convincing me. I will say he is a very smart player, I’m just worried that if we draft him that he’s a natural fit. Of course you CAN play anybody with Trae but which player will maximize their skills off Trae and vice versa.

For example, if Cam is running off screens and gunning threes in transition off crazy Nash/Stockton/White Chocolate passes by Trae or if we have 2 generals in Trae and RJ controlling an uptempo style but not necessarily bringing out each other’s maximum potentials?

I’m a definite NO on Morant. I can’t see Westbrook in this kid. I see a more aggressive Sexton and I hate that.

I see what you are saying with maximizing Trae's skills. I just think you need to protect him on defense at the 5. The 5 will always be the most important player for Trae or the 4. The reason why is because that player needs to be a rim protector, defend in space, able to protect Collins, and still good enough to screen well and play the PnR well. PnP is not needed as much although having a center who can shoot threes would be nice.

Cam is going to need a lot of time. He is very raw. That said, his ceiling is crazy good. Maybe higher than R.J. but you need just as much for him and more than you did for Trae. Cam will need a quality vet in front of him. He will need to learn how to play the position in the NBA. For the PG talk, PG learned from a NBA All Star in Danny Granger. You need that guy so he can be an understudy. I believe you rush Cam and he will be a bust.

I believe Trae and R.J. will be just as effective. Just in different ways. Also, we have to remember, no one in amateur basketball is as good in transition as R.J. is. No one. R.J. is a great fit. He is not the perfect fit like Cam at his max is but Cam at his max will take a lot of work and GMing and it's not just on Hawks University either which R.J. is just plug and play like Hunter. You don't need to add batteries or get extra parts to make it work.

I love Ja. I was higher on him as a prospect than Trae but potentially, I see them the same. Ja isn't the scorer or shooter Trae is but Ja half court ability is tremendous with the PnR.

If Trae is a blend of Lillard/Nash/Zeke for me potentially, Ja is a blend of Westbrook/Fox/Schroeder with a better floor game and court vision than these three as a prospect but lacking the ball hawk abilities or defensive intensity of those guys as prospects. I like him passing vision a lot. If you don't like Westbrook, Dennis, or Fox, there is a chance you might not like Morant. His decision making skills is questionable. His shooting form is like Dennis. His defensive effort is Dennis like. But his court vision is elite. His PnR skills is elite. His skill level is higher then those three as prospects. His ability to dominate the stat sheet will remind you of Westbrook and he is an elite athlete. I love him as a prospect. He is translatable for me. More than Trae was. I felt Trae needed to go to the right situation which will build around him, give him a vet to start over him or cut his mins and let him learn the NBA game. I felt we did all of that and we are now seeing the fruits of our labor. For Morant, I feel he can come in next year and give a team a major boost offensively. He is smart and knows how to run an offense. I think his potential is sky high like Trae's.

You’ll hear zero complaints from The Hazer if Col Schlenk drafts RJ and ‘Dre in the lottery. Nor if he trades Not-So-Fresh Printz and a couple of our 2nds for a late teens pick where he snags Johntay. Total coup if we’re able to walk away from this draft with Barrett, Hunter, and Porter to add to Young and Collins. Add a Max Star in ‘20 and damn son...

I think if we fall out of the top four picks and keep the Dallas pick, we could end up with Hunter. Hayes, or Langford. Two of those three. They have the body type and length to play defense and I am pretty sure Travis and Pierce know we need to shore up our D. This is going to be another nice draft for us.

[Spud2nique]

I see what you are saying with maximizing Trae's skills. I just think you need to protect him on defense at the 5. The 5 will always be the most important player for Trae or the 4. The reason why is because that player needs to be a rim protector, defend in space, able to protect Collins, and still good enough to screen well and play the PnR well. PnP is not needed as much although having a center who can shoot threes would be nice.

Cam is going to need a lot of time. He is very raw. That said, his ceiling is crazy good. Maybe higher than R.J. but you need just as much for him and more than you did for Trae. Cam will need a quality vet in front of him. He will need to learn how to play the position in the NBA. For the PG talk, PG learned from a NBA All Star in Danny Granger. You need that guy so he can be an understudy. I believe you rush Cam and he will be a bust.

I believe Trae and R.J. will be just as effective. Just in different ways. Also, we have to remember, no one in amateur basketball is as good in transition as R.J. is. No one. R.J. is a great fit. He is not the perfect fit like Cam at his max is but Cam at his max will take a lot of work and GMing and it's not just on Hawks University either which R.J. is just plug and play like Hunter. You don't need to add batteries or get extra parts to make it work.

I love Ja. I was higher on him as a prospect than Trae but potentially, I see them the same. Ja isn't the scorer or shooter Trae is but Ja half court ability is tremendous with the PnR.

If Trae is a blend of Lillard/Nash/Zeke for me potentially, Ja is a blend of Westbrook/Fox/Schroeder with a better floor game and court vision than these three as a prospect but lacking the ball hawk abilities or defensive intensity of those guys as prospects. I like him passing vision a lot. If you don't like Westbrook, Dennis, or Fox, there is a chance you might not like Morant. His decision making skills is questionable. His shooting form is like Dennis. His defensive effort is Dennis like. But his court vision is elite. His PnR skills is elite. His skill level is higher then those three as prospects. His ability to dominate the stat sheet will remind you of Westbrook and he is an elite athlete. I love him as a prospect. He is translatable for me. More than Trae was. I felt Trae needed to go to the right situation which will build around him, give him a vet to start over him or cut his mins and let him learn the NBA game. I felt we did all of that and we are now seeing the fruits of our labor. For Morant, I feel he can come in next year and give a team a major boost offensively. He is smart and knows how to run an offense. I think his potential is sky high like Trae's.

Nice breakdown soups. I do see RJ running n gunning in transition quite a bit. I wouldn’t be mad at the pick but it would be a more mysterious type of offense vs drafting Cam and knowing almost exactly what the game plan will be. RJ is the god son of Nash and has been groomed like Bagley almost all his life so no doubt he will transfer nicely to the pros.

Agree that Cam needs a couple years but we are playing the correct long championship rebuild and we have to be patient imo. But like you said, draft him but get him a vet like VC again to learn.

I keep watching Ja, I need more tape on this kid. I don’t love his game. He seems erratic, not super decisive or too decisive (doesn’t call audibles well his ego wants him to do what he initially wanted and I hate that..u gotta be able to change on the run). I need more everything from him.

Agreed. I been hearing about R.J. since he was in middle school. He was bred to play.

I would say a vet like Jeremy Lin was for Trae. Someone who can actually play. VC really can't play. There are a number of guys out there so that's for Travis if that's the direction he goes.

He might not be your cup of tea. Morant like Trae is not for everyone.

Ya I’m more of a Trae style fan. Get the team involved first, if they have it, build ur dime numbers that night and get urs on the side, if they don’t, then take over the game yourself. Oh, and for me, being able to shoot is first and foremost. I absolutely despise pg’s that can’t shoot on the fly. Trae is already better than Fox and Dennis who take time to set their feet and square up whereas Trae just twitch shoots it in 0.2. Love that.

I dunno, I’m sure I’m missing on Morant cuz everybody loves him, I haven’t seen it yet I won’t lie.

[Spud2nique]

I see what you are saying with maximizing Trae's skills. I just think you need to protect him on defense at the 5. The 5 will always be the most important player for Trae or the 4. The reason why is because that player needs to be a rim protector, defend in space, able to protect Collins, and still good enough to screen well and play the PnR well. PnP is not needed as much although having a center who can shoot threes would be nice.

Cam is going to need a lot of time. He is very raw. That said, his ceiling is crazy good. Maybe higher than R.J. but you need just as much for him and more than you did for Trae. Cam will need a quality vet in front of him. He will need to learn how to play the position in the NBA. For the PG talk, PG learned from a NBA All Star in Danny Granger. You need that guy so he can be an understudy. I believe you rush Cam and he will be a bust.

I believe Trae and R.J. will be just as effective. Just in different ways. Also, we have to remember, no one in amateur basketball is as good in transition as R.J. is. No one. R.J. is a great fit. He is not the perfect fit like Cam at his max is but Cam at his max will take a lot of work and GMing and it's not just on Hawks University either which R.J. is just plug and play like Hunter. You don't need to add batteries or get extra parts to make it work.

I love Ja. I was higher on him as a prospect than Trae but potentially, I see them the same. Ja isn't the scorer or shooter Trae is but Ja half court ability is tremendous with the PnR.

If Trae is a blend of Lillard/Nash/Zeke for me potentially, Ja is a blend of Westbrook/Fox/Schroeder with a better floor game and court vision than these three as a prospect but lacking the ball hawk abilities or defensive intensity of those guys as prospects. I like him passing vision a lot. If you don't like Westbrook, Dennis, or Fox, there is a chance you might not like Morant. His decision making skills is questionable. His shooting form is like Dennis. His defensive effort is Dennis like. But his court vision is elite. His PnR skills is elite. His skill level is higher then those three as prospects. His ability to dominate the stat sheet will remind you of Westbrook and he is an elite athlete. I love him as a prospect. He is translatable for me. More than Trae was. I felt Trae needed to go to the right situation which will build around him, give him a vet to start over him or cut his mins and let him learn the NBA game. I felt we did all of that and we are now seeing the fruits of our labor. For Morant, I feel he can come in next year and give a team a major boost offensively. He is smart and knows how to run an offense. I think his potential is sky high like Trae's.

You’ll hear zero complaints from The Hazer if Col Schlenk drafts RJ and ‘Dre in the lottery. Nor if he trades Not-So-Fresh Printz and a couple of our 2nds for a late teens pick where he snags Johntay. Total coup if we’re able to walk away from this draft with Barrett, Hunter, and Porter to add to Young and Collins. Add a Max Star in ‘20 and damn son...

I think if we fall out of the top four picks and keep the Dallas pick, we could end up with Hunter. Hayes, or Langford. Two of those three. They have the body type and length to play defense and I am pretty sure Travis and Pierce know we need to shore up our D. This is going to be another nice draft for us.

Yeaaa Buzz. I like Romeo too who was another dude who seems like a Bagley RJ in the spotlight since junior high school like Supes OJ Mayo.. I kid I kid Supes.

Buzz you ready for fantasy playoffs man? Northcyde is battling me this week! Good time in our lives.

[King Ken]

Nice breakdown soups. I do see RJ running n gunning in transition quite a bit. I wouldn’t be mad at the pick but it would be a more mysterious type of offense vs drafting Cam and knowing almost exactly what the game plan will be. RJ is the god son of Nash and has been groomed like Bagley almost all his life so no doubt he will transfer nicely to the pros.

Agree that Cam needs a couple years but we are playing the correct long championship rebuild and we have to be patient imo. But like you said, draft him but get him a vet like VC again to learn.

I keep watching Ja, I need more tape on this kid. I don’t love his game. He seems erratic, not super decisive or too decisive (doesn’t call audibles well his ego wants him to do what he initially wanted and I hate that..u gotta be able to change on the run). I need more everything from him.

Agreed. I been hearing about R.J. since he was in middle school. He was bred to play.

I would say a vet like Jeremy Lin was for Trae. Someone who can actually play. VC really can't play. There are a number of guys out there so that's for Travis if that's the direction he goes.

He might not be your cup of tea. Morant like Trae is not for everyone.

Ya I’m more of a Trae style fan. Get the team involved first, if they have it, build ur dime numbers that night and get urs on the side, if they don’t, then take over the game yourself. Oh, and for me, being able to shoot is first and foremost. I absolutely despise pg’s that can’t shoot on the fly. Trae is already better than Fox and Dennis who take time to set their feet and square up whereas Trae just twitch shoots it in 0.2. Love that.

I dunno, I’m sure I’m missing on Morant cuz everybody loves him, I haven’t seen it yet I won’t lie.

I am a Westbrook and Fox fan and I wanted to keep Dennis and draft Bags or Luka. Shooting is big to me but it's not everything. I love guys who are impossible to guard. Of course, I love guys with elite court vision. Playing the right way is not a requirement for me. I like a lot of things. I appreciated Mike Bibby as much as I appreciated Steve Francis. I was a major Damon Mighty Mouse Stoudemire fan as was I a J. Kidd fan.

Trae is a true PG prospect. Morant has true PG traits with his floor game and court vision. But his decision making, lack of consistency from three even with range, love with attacking while not being the best finisher is something to pay attention too. Trae is going to do true PG things better than guys who aren't.

[Spud2nique]

Agreed. I been hearing about R.J. since he was in middle school. He was bred to play.

I would say a vet like Jeremy Lin was for Trae. Someone who can actually play. VC really can't play. There are a number of guys out there so that's for Travis if that's the direction he goes.

He might not be your cup of tea. Morant like Trae is not for everyone.

Ya I’m more of a Trae style fan. Get the team involved first, if they have it, build ur dime numbers that night and get urs on the side, if they don’t, then take over the game yourself. Oh, and for me, being able to shoot is first and foremost. I absolutely despise pg’s that can’t shoot on the fly. Trae is already better than Fox and Dennis who take time to set their feet and square up whereas Trae just twitch shoots it in 0.2. Love that.

I dunno, I’m sure I’m missing on Morant cuz everybody loves him, I haven’t seen it yet I won’t lie.

I am a Westbrook and Fox fan and I wanted to keep Dennis and draft Bags or Luka. Shooting is big to me but it's not everything. I love guys who are impossible to guard. Of course, I love guys with elite court vision. Playing the right way is not a requirement for me. I like a lot of things. I appreciated Mike Bibby as much as I appreciated Steve Francis. I was a major Damon Mighty Mouse Stoudemire fan as was I a J. Kidd fan.

Trae is a true PG prospect. Morant has true PG traits with his floor game and court vision. But his decision making, lack of consistency from three even with range, love with attacking while not being the best finisher is something to pay attention too. Trae is going to do true PG things better than guys who aren't.

I was a huge fan of Magic, Stockton and Payton (even though Payton was a bad shooter when he came in the league he did everything else and controlled the game). Was also a huge fan of Chris Mahmoud Abdul Rauf Jackson (He wasn’t the best playmaker but a quick playmaker as in quick decisions that kept a defense guessing).

I remember the SuperSonics and us had similar records and were listed at 11 and 12 in the lottery or something like that and the Sonics landed the number 2 pick and got him and Nuggs grabbed Rauf with #3. I really wanted one of those guys on the Hawks in 1990.

I liked J Kidd and saw him play in high school as we were a year apart and then saw him at Cal where my sister was attending at the time. He had everything besides a shot as well but ran a team with the best of them.

[King Ken]

Ya I’m more of a Trae style fan. Get the team involved first, if they have it, build ur dime numbers that night and get urs on the side, if they don’t, then take over the game yourself. Oh, and for me, being able to shoot is first and foremost. I absolutely despise pg’s that can’t shoot on the fly. Trae is already better than Fox and Dennis who take time to set their feet and square up whereas Trae just twitch shoots it in 0.2. Love that.

I dunno, I’m sure I’m missing on Morant cuz everybody loves him, I haven’t seen it yet I won’t lie.

I am a Westbrook and Fox fan and I wanted to keep Dennis and draft Bags or Luka. Shooting is big to me but it's not everything. I love guys who are impossible to guard. Of course, I love guys with elite court vision. Playing the right way is not a requirement for me. I like a lot of things. I appreciated Mike Bibby as much as I appreciated Steve Francis. I was a major Damon Mighty Mouse Stoudemire fan as was I a J. Kidd fan.

Trae is a true PG prospect. Morant has true PG traits with his floor game and court vision. But his decision making, lack of consistency from three even with range, love with attacking while not being the best finisher is something to pay attention too. Trae is going to do true PG things better than guys who aren't.

I was a huge fan of Magic, Stockton and Payton (even though Payton was a bad shooter when he came in the league he did everything else and controlled the game). Was also a huge fan of Chris Mahmoud Abdul Rauf Jackson (He wasn’t the best playmaker but a quick playmaker as in quick decisions that kept a defense guessing).

I remember the SuperSonics and us had similar records and were listed at 11 and 12 in the lottery or something like that and the Sonics landed the number 2 pick and got him and Nuggs grabbed Rauf with #3. I really wanted one of those guys on the Hawks in 1990.

I liked J Kidd and saw him play in high school as we were a year apart and then saw him at Cal where my sister was attending at the time. He had everything besides a shot as well but ran a team with the best of them.

I love your mind bro but you knew that along time ago. I still credit you for getting me on board with Trae. I was off of him due to the quality of the top 5 for me and the boom or bust element but you convinced me too look long term and pay more attention to his strengths and trust in our process. I think Travis did a heck of a job earning my trust as well. If this was BK, we could have still messed up this pick. Trae was always looked at by me as extremely talented and elite potential but I see Cam the same way and I have SOOOO MANY DOUBTS. It's hard for me to get on board with raw guys. Especially PG's like Trae was. We had no real track record of a successful 1 and done true PG but Trae ability to drive like Zeke changed his scope for me and I NOW see why he is so successful, so early. I really had this being a struggle year for Trae, boy was I wrong.

A lot of good came in the 2018 draft. I want the same for 2019. This could be our last time with our pick in the lottery for the next decade and change so we better get it right and good.

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His PGesque talent is going to win out but like I said, when PG entered, he had Danny Granger to teach him and show him how to do it when Danny was still a star.

[King Ken]

You’ll hear zero complaints from The Hazer if Col Schlenk drafts RJ and ‘Dre in the lottery. Nor if he trades Not-So-Fresh Printz and a couple of our 2nds for a late teens pick where he snags Johntay. Total coup if we’re able to walk away from this draft with Barrett, Hunter, and Porter to add to Young and Collins. Add a Max Star in ‘20 and damn son...

I think if we fall out of the top four picks and keep the Dallas pick, we could end up with Hunter. Hayes, or Langford. Two of those three. They have the body type and length to play defense and I am pretty sure Travis and Pierce know we need to shore up our D. This is going to be another nice draft for us.

Yeaaa Buzz. I like Romeo too who was another dude who seems like a Bagley RJ in the spotlight since junior high school like Supes OJ Mayo.. I kid I kid Supes.

Buzz you ready for fantasy playoffs man? Northcyde is battling me this week! Good time in our lives.

I will always have a soft place for O.J. but sadly O.J. personality and his lack of fit with his off the court habits killed his star.