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Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7

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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#481 » by nate33 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:02 pm

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payitforward wrote:Kieff's got a job -- picked up by OKC to play out the season.


Quick question for you guys: Any chance he can play the 3, especially in bench lineups? I would like Donovan to at least give a Schröder-George-Morris-Patterson-Adams lineup a try. I figure it could work against opposing benches unless they have multiple quick wings. :-? :-?


No way. He did a good job when he played against bigger 3s like Melo but nowadays most of those guys tend to play at the 4. Only way I can see it work is if for some reason opponent decides to play very slow-paced game. At least Markieff is a decent shooter.

He's also not a good rebounder and very lazy at times. I'm happy that he's not wearing Wiz uniform anymore but I'm sure he could be useful player for you guys as long as you don't play him more than 10-15 minutes per game. Here he was badly overrated by coaching staff and media I guess.

Kieff has real talent if he wanted to use it. There have been brief moments (maybe 5% of the time) where Kieff has been everywhere defensively, switching defensively onto anyone and covering the weakside. But 95% of the time, he is lazy AF on team defense. He stands flatfooted and ball watches from the weak side instead of moving into position to take a charge, block a shot, or box a guy out. The one thing he is quite good at is one-on-one defense. He's an excellent post defender and can guard some of the best PF scorers one on one. He does a nice job on guys like Blake Griffin and Paul Millsap.

Offensively, he's a good shooter, a decent passer, and can get you a half decent bail-out shot at the end of the shot clock. But he's not a good cutter or pick-and-roll finisher and doesn't really know how to get a lot of easy shots, which causes his efficiency to suffer. Also, the ball sticks to him a bit. He's best suited for a bench scorer role. He's a terrible rebounder and will give up way too many offensive boards to his man.

He can't play the 3, unless your 3 is just going to stand on the perimeter and do nothing. Morris certainly isn't going to come off a pin-down screen to hit a 3-point from the wing. He can guard 3's better than a lot of 4's can, but it's still not ideal.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#482 » by tontoz » Fri Mar 1, 2019 1:21 am

The Clippers have done a really good job rebuilding. Next year they only have 1 guy making over $10 mill (Gallo who will be expiring). Lou is making only $8 mill/yr for 3 years.

They stole Zubac from the Lakers. They have Harrell at only $6 mill/yr who is really a good small ball 5, averaging 22/9 per 36 with a TS of 64%.

After getting rid of CP3/Blake/Jordan AND Harris they are still 5 games over .500 in the west.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#483 » by verbal8 » Fri Mar 1, 2019 3:41 pm

tontoz wrote:The Clippers have done a really good job rebuilding. Next year they only have 1 guy making over $10 mill (Gallo who will be expiring). Lou is making only $8 mill/yr for 3 years.

They stole Zubac from the Lakers. They have Harrell at only $6 mill/yr who is really a good small ball 5, averaging 22/9 per 36 with a TS of 64%.

After getting rid of CP3/Blake/Jordan AND Harris they are still 5 games over .500 in the west.


I think raw cap space is highly overrated. However if you have some cheap players who can play in a big market - it can be very appealing as a FA destination. If they can get Kawhi Leonard to sign as FA, they could be a very strong team even in the West.
If they can orchestrate Irving and Leonard or Durant - they become a true contender.

Of course blockbusters in free agency happen far more often on RealGM than in the actual NBA. However do have themselves well positioned to either do a tradtional rebuild or take advantage of a huge opportunity if it presents itself.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#484 » by closg00 » Mon Mar 4, 2019 9:31 pm

Haha, the Lakers are looking to add depth at Center, major gaff to lose Bryant.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#485 » by tontoz » Mon Mar 4, 2019 10:25 pm

This headline is gold:

The Lakers Are So Toxic Right Now That Carmelo Anthony Would Rather Stay Home


https://deadspin.com/the-lakers-are-so-toxic-right-now-that-carmelo-anthony-1833038312
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#486 » by Ruzious » Mon Mar 4, 2019 10:37 pm

tontoz wrote:The Clippers have done a really good job rebuilding. Next year they only have 1 guy making over $10 mill (Gallo who will be expiring). Lou is making only $8 mill/yr for 3 years.

They stole Zubac from the Lakers. They have Harrell at only $6 mill/yr who is really a good small ball 5, averaging 22/9 per 36 with a TS of 64%.

After getting rid of CP3/Blake/Jordan AND Harris they are still 5 games over .500 in the west.

Agreed that they stole Zubac, but what are they rebuilding around? They don't even have a 1st round pick.

The Lakers are really stupid with centers. They let go of not not just Zubac, but Julius Randle - who's having a monster season, Brook Lopez - starting center on the team with the best record in the NBA - and of course Thomas Bryant. Mitch Kupchack brought em in, and Magic Johnson dumps em.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#487 » by payitforward » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:05 pm

Chris Chiozza -- the 6'0" PG who played for us in SL, was in camp, & played for the GoGo too (& for at least one other G League team) -- has signed w/ the Rockets for the remainder of the season.

Way to go, Chris!
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#488 » by LyricalRico » Thu Apr 4, 2019 9:02 pm

KD to NY? Then if they win the lottery (Zion) and can also woo Kyrie... :o

"From everything I've heard, it's done. Yes, he's leaving," Bucher told FOX Sports' Colin Cowherd on Wednesday's edition of "The Herd" about Durant going to the Knicks.

Bucher believes Durant wants to leave the Warriors in order to be appreciated the way a two-time NBA Finals MVP deserves.

"It's not a matter of not liking or appreciating what he has," Bucher said. "But being there, I can tell you that Kevin Durant has never been fully embraced by the Warriors faithful. And has never, from even a national perspective, been given the just do that you would expect for a guy who has been the NBA Finals MVP of their last two championships. It's still Steph's team. It's still Steph, Klay, Draymond. KD thanks for coming along and helping us win these last two. He's never gotten the just deserts.

"So now that he's done that, it's a matter of, 'Where can I go and I can get this done? I can be the centerpiece and I'm going to be unbelievably appreciated.' I can tell you one place: The New York Knicks, the New York Knicks' fans, Madison Square Garden. If he so much as takes them into the conference finals, for as much as they have not done for the past multiple decades, he will be beloved there like he never has been at Golden State after winning two championships."


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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#489 » by miller31time » Thu Apr 4, 2019 10:14 pm

So nice of him to...JUST NOW....want to be the main centerpiece of a team. Would have been real nice, oh about 2 years ago.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#490 » by Ruzious » Fri Apr 5, 2019 3:10 pm

miller31time wrote:So nice of him to...JUST NOW....want to be the main centerpiece of a team. Would have been real nice, oh about 2 years ago.

Yeah, and I just don't buy it. He could barely tolerate the OKC and GS media. I can't believe he's willing to deal with the NY media on a daily basis. Not to mention he'd have to deal with a clownish owner.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#491 » by Rafael122 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:07 pm

Lakers and Walton have parted ways. I think that's 5 openings now?

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Wolves

Rumor is Walton's the favorite for the Kings job.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#492 » by Eli Babak » Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:05 pm

Read on Twitter


:lol: Lakers are a freaking joke. Hopefully they don't get Davis or any real big name there this summer.

Pelicans hired David Griffin as "Executive VP of Basketball Operations" according to Woj so he's not the next GM for the Wiz (good imo).
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#493 » by ozthegap » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:23 pm

When people were saying the Lakers were a big enough brand to moderate Lebron's star power. He steam rolled them in one year. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#494 » by doclinkin » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:45 pm

ozthegap wrote:When people were saying the Lakers were a big enough brand to moderate Lebron's star power. He steam rolled them in one year. :lol: :lol:



That's why I was thinking the Wiz front office job is a better deal to many candidates: Owner who will spend. Patience to implement your own philosophy. Already one solid player on the team to build around, a player who fits with any team concept not a player that is a difficult fit in any way. And a success starved but loyal fanbase.

In contrast with LA who have LeBJ as co-GM, working to weaken Front Office power league wide, undermining and second-guessing coaching selection and driving out execs. All under a pampered and spoiled local fanbase who have in-city competition for that fickle fandom, under the white hot glare of media attention on your every move.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#495 » by Mojo Amok » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:15 am

Plus, if the incoming Lakers GM (or director of BB operations) fails to land a grand slam free agent THIS SUMMER, they're already a failure in the eyes of most. Many will want nothing to do with the position, seeing it as a trap, so I don't see the Wizards coming up short on anybody who was hypothetically coveted by both franchises. But they probably have completely different criteria for what they're looking for and won't even have overlapping candidates anyway.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#496 » by ozthegap » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:17 am

Also job security with the Lakers even without Lebron is way less than then with Leonis. Yeah Magic ended up leaving on his own, but people in LA were calling into local radio everyday (i live in LA) calling for his job. he was only POBO for 2 years. Sheesh.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#497 » by ozthegap » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:22 am

Oh local people are saying pelinka is in charge of the coaching search, so they think the Lakers arent looking for a POBO or already quietly gave the position to someone.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#498 » by closg00 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:14 pm

I take satisfaction in knowing that Bron is marred in a dysfunctional franchise, unable to create another Super Team
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#499 » by FAH1223 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:59 pm

Eli Babak wrote:Pelicans hired David Griffin as "Executive VP of Basketball Operations" according to Woj so he's not the next GM for the Wiz (good imo).

David Griffin talked about what he would do (back when AD demanded a trade). Interesting seeing his opinion earlier in the year now that they actually hired him.
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Re: Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7 

Post#500 » by ozthegap » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:52 pm

Spoiler:
closg00 wrote:I take satisfaction in knowing that Bron is marred in a dysfunctional franchise, unable to create another Super Team


im hoping this summer marks the end of super teams. I want kawai to stay in Canada KD and Kyrie can team up in NY if they want. Thats not a super team just 2 players. as for AD he can get stuck in NO or go to Boston. That will make the league alot more balanced and interesting to syart the season next year.

kemba and cousins team up somewhere. Clippers? Jimmy Butler to the Lakers. am i leaving anyone out?

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