2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST

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Player(s) of the Game

Markieff Morris | 17 PTS (7-12 FG), 4 REB
3
60%
Jerami Grant | 23 PTS (10-17 FG, 2-5 3P), 6 REB
1
20%
Steven Adams | 11 PTS (4-9 FG), 14 REBT
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No votes
Terrance Ferguson | 7 PTS (3-5 FG)
1
20%
Russell Westbrook | 23 PTS (8-24 FG), 11 REB, 10 AST
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No votes
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No votes
 
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#61 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Mar 1, 2019 3:40 am

I think this was the worst game from Schroeder as a Thunder. That's quite an achievement
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#62 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Mar 1, 2019 3:53 am

Don't want to overreact but even if we improve by the end of the regular season, I'm not confident going into the playoffs when you need your 2 stars to play well to beat a good team. We are by far the team that relies the most on their stars because we don't have any other scorer or good wing coming from the bench (yeah Schroeder had 2 or 3 nice games but....)

At least Markieff is showing some good stuff...
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#63 » by Osirus89 » Fri Mar 1, 2019 3:54 am

Sigh...
The irony of it all is that after getting lit up in the first quarter, the defense actually held its ground for the rest of the game. Letting Philly get a double digit lead early in the game did no favors.

This is a win with PG but the game was far closer than it should have been considering the lack of production from the bench. Steven Adams was a lot less effective than he should have been with no great opposing center to defend him, but the lack of spacing was problematic. Russ shot the ball a ton and ineffectively but Philly's defense was keyed in on him and again spacing.

On a positive side, Markieff Morris was able to contribute and JG stepped up.

Nader can't play in the playoffs. PERIOD. Either Andre comes back or guys are just going to have to play an obscene amount of minutes. Dennis schroder's defense is terrible, but holy hell is Nader a tragedy. Dude bites on every pump fake and then fouls on top of it EVERY SINGLE TIME. He's like a wing version of Kanter.
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#64 » by Dn4sty » Fri Mar 1, 2019 4:00 am

Really hard to win at the highest level when you can’t play a guy who makes 25 million in crunch time.

Adams was outplayed by a rookie
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#65 » by Osirus89 » Fri Mar 1, 2019 4:04 am

Also Paul George is getting some time off now, but Russ is going to need some time as well at some point.
They showed him getting treatment during the game after he took the knee and he played in the Utah game as well.
Adams could use some time off also.

I would sit Russ/SA in the Memphis game and let PG man the fort. It's tough to find time in the schedule with how tough it is, but they have to find ways to rest guys over the next month. It's pointless to go into the playoffs with at least 2 starters hindered.
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#66 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Mar 1, 2019 4:05 am

Ferguson played 38 minutes and only attempted 5 shots. He isn't defending as well as he was a month ago. Adams is trash but Ferg is far from being good lately. Combine that with our terrible bench and we are screwed.
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#67 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Mar 1, 2019 4:07 am

Osirus89 wrote:Also Paul George is getting some time off now, but Russ is going to need some time as well at some point.
They showed him getting treatment during the game after he took the knee and he played in the Utah game as well.
Adams could use some time off also.

I would sit Russ/SA in the Memphis game and let PG man the fort. It's tough to find time in the schedule with how tough it is, but they have to find ways to rest guys over the next month. It's pointless to go into the playoffs with at least 2 starters hindered.


Don't know what Russ was feeling so hard to tell but Russ is finally in good shape (even if his shot was garbage tonight) so I won't rest him right now (maybe in the last games of the regular seasons). Would definitely rest PG13 and Adams as much as possible though.
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#68 » by Thunder Up » Fri Mar 1, 2019 4:14 am

Dn4sty wrote:Really hard to win at the highest level when you can’t play a guy who makes 25 million in crunch time.

Adams was outplayed by a rookie


A really bad rookie at that... also Noel should've been starting but, you know, Billy Donovan
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#69 » by Dn4sty » Fri Mar 1, 2019 4:56 am

Dn4sty wrote:Really hard to win at the highest level when you can’t play a guy who makes 25 million in crunch time.

Adams was outplayed by a rookie


Quick clarification. I’m not saying Adams is worthless, but if he’s as tired as he is, worn down as he is, and probably hurt....then it’s an issue
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#70 » by CROklahoma » Fri Mar 1, 2019 10:01 am

What a disgrace of a game.

Two teams, which have a huge coaching issue problems, stuck in 2000s with their type of play, so much iso's going on I stopped watching game at the end of the 1st.

Nevertheless, PG out, RW getting old, Adams being straight dog ****, the type of coaching and rotations, end game decisions by Donovan are something we cannot run from in these past few years, and those to come ...

If PG wasnt in his supernova mode, we'd never be close to a top spot.
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#71 » by Pillendreher » Fri Mar 1, 2019 10:12 am

This just isn't fun, at all. Lost four out of five while not playing a single better team. We were in every single **** one of them, but our own lack of defensive care didn't allow us to win. How on earth is this possible?

1st quarter vs Utah: 130.8 DRtG
1st quarter vs Sacramento: 119.2 DRtG
1st quarter vs Denver: 116.0 DRtG
1st quarter vs Philadelphia: 142.3 DRtG

Where the hell is the focus? Why on earth does it take Raymond **** Felton to come in and provide some defensive effort to get the team going on that end? But hell, what does it matter if this what we do when we're within a possession in the 4th quarter with just a couple minutes to go:

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At some point, you just don't deserve to win games like this if that is what you're trying to pass up as "defense".
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#72 » by ThunderBolt » Fri Mar 1, 2019 10:45 am

Dadouv47 wrote:Don't want to overreact but even if we improve by the end of the regular season, I'm not confident going into the playoffs when you need your 2 stars to play well to beat a good team. We are by far the team that relies the most on their stars because we don't have any other scorer or good wing coming from the bench (yeah Schroeder had 2 or 3 nice games but....)

At least Markieff is showing some good stuff...

If we don’t fix the defensive issues and get and stay healthy then we could easily drop to 7th in the west before you know it.
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#73 » by Pillendreher » Fri Mar 1, 2019 11:08 am

Something weird I noticed while watching this game: Why have we completely moved away from just a simple Westbrook-Adams pick and roll? I know we do have spacing issues, ie teams would be guarding it closely, but it looks like we run that very, very infrequently, which I don't understand at all. You can't expect Adams to score efficiently when all he gets to do is take guarded post up shots or try to muscle his way to the rim against three guys.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#74 » by XtremeDunkz » Fri Mar 1, 2019 11:30 am

Something was definitely up with Adams. He should have had a 20 rebound game against our lack of healthy bigs.

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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#75 » by Pillendreher » Fri Mar 1, 2019 11:42 am

XtremeDunkz wrote:Something was definitely up with Adams. He should have had a 20 rebound game against our lack of healthy bigs.

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Per stats.nba.com tracking, he grabbed 80 % of all possible offensive rebounds last night. I'd say that's good enough considering he's routinely surrounded by two, if not three guys.
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#76 » by ThunderBolt » Fri Mar 1, 2019 12:39 pm

Read on Twitter

Nice to see him own it. It gives a little bit of hope that some of this breakdowns will be fixable in time.
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#77 » by Pillendreher » Fri Mar 1, 2019 1:20 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
Read on Twitter

Nice to see him own it. It gives a little bit of hope that some of this breakdowns will be fixable in time.


I don't mind those; they are to be expected. Sequences like these I do mind very much because these guys should know way better:

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And that's with three made buckets not having a working video on stats.nba.com.
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#78 » by Dadouv47 » Fri Mar 1, 2019 3:35 pm

I'm not that high on him but still don't understand why Burton didn't touch the floor last night.
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Re: 2/28 | G61: Philadelphia 76ers at Oklahoma City Thunder - 7PM CST 

Post#79 » by Thunder Up » Fri Mar 1, 2019 6:09 pm

Pillendreher wrote:This just isn't fun, at all. Lost four out of five while not playing a single better team. We were in every single **** one of them, but our own lack of defensive care didn't allow us to win. How on earth is this possible?

1st quarter vs Utah: 130.8 DRtG
1st quarter vs Sacramento: 119.2 DRtG
1st quarter vs Denver: 116.0 DRtG
1st quarter vs Philadelphia: 142.3 DRtG

Where the hell is the focus? Why on earth does it take Raymond **** Felton to come in and provide some defensive effort to get the team going on that end? But hell, what does it matter if this what we do when we're within a possession in the 4th quarter with just a couple minutes to go:

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At some point, you just don't deserve to win games like this if that is what you're trying to pass up as "defense".



That Nader switch for no **** reason at all was probably the single worst defensive play I’ve ever seen... but what else would you expect from a g-leaguer getting significant minutes

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