Season Speculation, Free Agency & Trade Ideas: Our Johnson is finally working

[Wilber85]

What do you think of Bridges + #2 + Milwaukee pick for JJJ?


We should have enough money in FA to pick up a pg and round out the roster. Would hate to lose Bridges but we can resign Oubre. JJJ would be perfect next to Ayton.

I would take Morant, Bridges, and Milwaukee over JJJ any day of the week.

[Crives]

What do you think of Bridges + #2 + Milwaukee pick for JJJ?


We should have enough money in FA to pick up a pg and round out the roster. Would hate to lose Bridges but we can resign Oubre. JJJ would be perfect next to Ayton.

I would take Morant, Bridges, and Milwaukee over JJJ any day of the week.

I really like Morant, just worried about his long term defensive fit next to booker.

[bwgood77]

14.9/9.4? But we would have to pay more than the vet min, for he could get that anywhere, or just stay with the Rockets.

Those numbers are there because of Harden and Paul.

He is a C in the current NBA. I would like him as a backup C on our roster. Not more than that.

Im going to have to call bs on Faried's rebounds being because of Harden and Paul.

Currently he only weighs 220, and is still quite mobile. If Ayton's range can be expanded, they can work fine both in the starting lineup. Oddly, while Faried isnt taking many three pointers, he is shooting 46% since going to Houston.

Yeah, he's shot 13. He shot 20 in his career before this year. If we sign Faried as a key offseason signing it will be close to last straw for me.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I wonder with Pau Gasol taking a buyout from the spurs to sign with the bucks, If it will ultimately help us in landing Brogdon, As it may tie up even more cap space for them once he signs?

If we could land Brogdon, Then we could draft Morant to study behind him, And use Johnsons' expiring, Jackson and the Milwaukee pick in exchange for a high end power forward perhaps?

Or would we likely look to trade Johnsons' contract, along with jackson Or the Milwaukee pick for Brogdon to give them future cap savings with respect to their ever increasing tight payroll?

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[Damkac]

I was thinking about taking Ersan Ilyasova from the Bucks for some assets. They need cap space to resign their players.
Ersan makes 13/9 per36 with 36% 3pt shooting. But he is close to 32 years old and makes 7 milions for 2 more seasons after this.
The problem is Bucks don't have picks to trade so not sure what could we get from them.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I wonder with Pau Gasol taking a buyout from the spurs to sign with the bucks, If it will ultimately help us in landing Brogdon, As it may tie up even more cap space for them once he signs?

If we could land Brogdon, Then we could draft Morant to study behind him, And use Johnsons' expiring, Jackson and the Milwaukee pick in exchange for a high end power forward perhaps?

Or would we likely look to trade Johnsons' contract, along with jackson Or the Milwaukee pick for Brogdon to give them future cap savings with respect to their ever increasing tight payroll?

? Gasol is just there on a minimum deal for the rest of this year. This has no impact on them keeping brogdon next year.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

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That's a reasonable price for bledsoe. Probably hurts the suns chances to grab Brogdon because they can keep him too if they want.

It probably does help them with other guys because it helps set the market. Take Rubio for example it's hard to see him try to get more considering bledsoe has been much better than him this year.

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[Qwigglez]

Bledsoe with a fairly team friendly deal with the Bucks. Not over or underpaid IMO. Bucks will likely keep the same team going forward next year as long as Middleton wants to stay there.

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Hmm. Are Bucks going to be able to keep all of brog/mid/mirotic/Lopez now? Maybe brog or mirotic is now available. I think they have to bring back Lopez/middle as their top priorities

[WeekapaugGroove]

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Hmm. Are Bucks going to be able to keep all of brog/mid/mirotic/Lopez now? Maybe brog or mirotic is now available. I think they have to bring back Lopez/middle as their top priorities

Lopez is the least likely to return since he signed a small 1 year deal they don't have full bird rights on him this summer and can only offer 120% of his current salary.

Brogdon is a RFA so if they want him back he'll be back.



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[Ghost of Kleine]

I wonder with Pau Gasol taking a buyout from the spurs to sign with the bucks, If it will ultimately help us in landing Brogdon, As it may tie up even more cap space for them once he signs?

If we could land Brogdon, Then we could draft Morant to study behind him, And use Johnsons' expiring, Jackson and the Milwaukee pick in exchange for a high end power forward perhaps?

Or would we likely look to trade Johnsons' contract, along with jackson Or the Milwaukee pick for Brogdon to give them future cap savings with respect to their ever increasing tight payroll?

? Gasol is just there on a minimum deal for the rest of this year. This has no impact on them keeping brogdon next year.

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Well that sucks, How about Bledsoe resigning with them for 70 million though?

Doesn't that tighten up their payroll a bit?

[Young gun 6]

If we win Zion.... all this pain the last few years could be worth it. Imagine if we trade Zion + Josh + Johnson for AD in parallel with signing a top FA like Kyrie/Kemba... back to reality....

Even better would be Ayton instead of Zion in that trade.

Hopefully we address the two holes in our roster. It would be best to make a trade for one of those holes, and draft the other. Having one of the highest 2nd rounder picks isn't bad, either as a pick or a trading piece.

It looks like Morant is the only player ranked top 5 that would fill a hole at pg/pf. I’m not sure we would want to start another rookie though. We would likely still need to find a pg/pf and have Morant learn off the bench for a while.

I feel like there are a lot of interesting names at pg via fa or trade that will be a big improvement, but I have not heard to many names thrown around for pfs. If there are not as many pfs available, we may need to prioritize our trade/cap assets towards getting a pf and pick up a cheaper vet pg in FA.

Mirotic would be perfect.

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Hmm. Are Bucks going to be able to keep all of brog/mid/mirotic/Lopez now? Maybe brog or mirotic is now available. I think they have to bring back Lopez/middle as their top priorities

Lopez is the least likely to return since he signed a small 1 year deal they don't have full bird rights on him this summer and can only offer 120% of his current salary.

Brogdon is a RFA so if they want him back he'll be back.



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Isn’t Lopez the key to their offense spacing around Giannis? They are going to need a stretch 5 replacement.

[BobbieL]

I was thinking about taking Ersan Ilyasova from the Bucks for some assets. They need cap space to resign their players.
Ersan makes 13/9 per36 with 36% 3pt shooting. But he is close to 32 years old and makes 7 milions for 2 more seasons after this.
The problem is Bucks don't have picks to trade so not sure what could we get from them.

I would prefer Kleber for defense but if they are looking to move Ersan and the Suns have cap space - send them a 2nd

I think the 3rd year is not fully guaranteed. Again maybe not the first choice


As far as Bledsoe - good deal. Maybe we can poison the hell out of a Brogdon pill. If not Rubio 4/58 or so

[WeekapaugGroove]

I was thinking about taking Ersan Ilyasova from the Bucks for some assets. They need cap space to resign their players.
Ersan makes 13/9 per36 with 36% 3pt shooting. But he is close to 32 years old and makes 7 milions for 2 more seasons after this.
The problem is Bucks don't have picks to trade so not sure what could we get from them.

I would prefer Kleber for defense but if they are looking to move Ersan and the Suns have cap space - send them a 2nd

I think the 3rd year is not fully guaranteed. Again maybe not the first choice


As far as Bledsoe - good deal. Maybe we can poison the hell out of a Brogdon pill. If not Rubio 4/58 or so

Unfortunately for the suns you really can't poison pill in the latest CBA.

Bucks might be willing to pay the lux tax the next couple years. They have billionaire hedge fund ownership group so it's not like they are hurting for cash. They just opened a new arena too. Plus the biggest thing is they have to prove to Giannis they are committed so he resigns a couple years from now.

I do think the bledsoe deal potentially drives down some of the other PGs starting point.



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[BobbieL]

I was thinking about taking Ersan Ilyasova from the Bucks for some assets. They need cap space to resign their players.
Ersan makes 13/9 per36 with 36% 3pt shooting. But he is close to 32 years old and makes 7 milions for 2 more seasons after this.
The problem is Bucks don't have picks to trade so not sure what could we get from them.

I would prefer Kleber for defense but if they are looking to move Ersan and the Suns have cap space - send them a 2nd

I think the 3rd year is not fully guaranteed. Again maybe not the first choice


As far as Bledsoe - good deal. Maybe we can poison the hell out of a Brogdon pill. If not Rubio 4/58 or so

Unfortunately for the suns you really can't poison pill in the latest CBA.

Bucks might be willing to pay the lux tax the next couple years. They have billionaire hedge fund ownership group so it's not like they are hurting for cash. They just opened a new arena too. Plus the biggest thing is they have to prove to Giannis they are committed so he resigns a couple years from now.

I do think the bledsoe deal potentially drives down some of the other PGs starting point.



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Bledsoe was able to get a nice third contract. But like you said, may keep the cost down on PGs. Suns are going to need all the cap space they can get.

I think Oubre might be earning a contract at the expense of Jackson

[Cutter]

I see almost no near-term moves the Suns can make to really improve the roster except through the draft. I can't visualize any top tier free agent coming to this **** of a team. We might be able to really over pay for a FA, but that hampers cap space flexibility. The vast majority of trades I see posted on this board are treadmill trades.......at best.

The glass is really half-empty with this team.

[bwgood77]

It's just amazing how building a team with a vision seems like such a great plan, and how McD never seemed to have any vision about how he wanted the team to look.

Travis Schlenk, for example, apparently wanted to model his team after the Warriors (being an asst GM from there) but also build assets, so he trades down, picks up a first, gets Trae, drafts a sharpshooter (who is also a great passer) in Huerter and an all defensive big tough guy who can also hit 3s in Spellman (ex teammate of Mikal Bridges)..Spellman blocked shots but also shot over 43% from 3.

There was a lot of talk about they were their version of Curry, Klay and Draymond.

But when we play them I'm just watching it work...them bombing 3s on us...even Dedmon and Collins...everyone on their team pretty much is hitting 3s...heck, even Len is hitting them.

It just feels like there was ZERO vision in putting this team together...

NO ONE can hit 3s. I mean TJ is our best 3 pt shooter this year. If you would have heard that last year you would have laughed and thought it was a joke.

Now props to TJ for fixing his shot and becoming 11th in 3pt% this year, but that had nothing to do with McD building this team.

How can you build a team these days with very few good 3 pt shooters and no playmakers. The NBA today is all about multiple playmakers and shooters everywhere.

It seriously blows my mind.

I know a ton of blame is thrown Igor's way but seriously, there is SO little to work with in terms of what will win today. If you get killed from 3 every game, you simply ARE NOT going to win...EVER...barring something crazy like heavily outrebounding or getting to the line a lot more than the other team.

[DirtyDez]

Every time I check a Bucks boxscore Brogdon is like 8–10 from the field.