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Re: Trae Young 

Post#1301 » by Stillwater » Sun Mar 3, 2019 7:42 pm

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Stillwater wrote:wrong assessment... I don't hate Young at all, I am just sick of the love people have for undersized ball handling chuckers
that have no defensive abilty nor the length to ever have it at all as if offense is all that matters when it comes to being legit star in the league.

This could have been a statement people made about Curry after college. Or about Nash, if he decided to be more aggressive as a scorer. Or Irving. Yet all of these players had a lot of success (yes, this includes Nash who had his fair share of postseason success as well) and with hard work, Young can become part of this club as well.

I mean, I'd agree that Young has to improve his defense and at least start to bother. If he's a liability akin to Isaiah Thomas, that makes it much more difficult to build a contender around him. And of course he can't take the same approach he took in college – but his shot selection has already improved noticeably, so there's hope he'll continue on this path.

There are still some legitimate concerns about Trae. But you're way overboard here, and you fail to realize that. Young is not guaranteed to win or achieve anything, but his play thus far has clearly shown that there is a path for greatness for him. To say he won't ever win anything – as if that's already been determined by his size and lack of defense at this point – is beyond silly.

Fair enough... and I do take a hard stance against offense only players, maybe somewhat to hard of one, but the way I see it, he just isn't Curry-esque other than having to take shots way beyond the break due his chest release mechanics and being able to hit them when he's hot. Curry can pop em up with a defender in his grill all day and make them, not just occasionally. idk. if it were not for the shot mechanics I would buy he could be successful despite his ineptitude physically to ever become a legit defender, but as it stands for me,regardless of how much his teammates hide him defensively at the very least he needs to get a lot better with his shot selections even if it means shooting less if he wants to be the leader of a winning roster.
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Re: Trae Young 

Post#1302 » by shakes0 » Sun Mar 3, 2019 10:25 pm

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Re: Trae Young 

Post#1303 » by clyde21 » Sun Mar 3, 2019 10:29 pm

Trae has definitely proven me wrong at this point so im happy for Atlanta fans they deserve to start winning

i still have my reservations about him long term, but I'll gladly eat crow right now
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Re: Trae Young 

Post#1304 » by Stillwater » Sun Mar 3, 2019 10:32 pm

shakes0 wrote:guys, just ignore stillwater. He's a massive Trae troll, a Cavs homer who is very butthurt about the beating Trae has given Sexton all season. He's been anti-Trae all year even in the face of obvious and indisputable evidence.

just last week he even said he would draft Aaron Holiday and at least 10 other players from 2018 ahead of Trae in a re-draft. Let that sink in for a minute.

That's not accurate … butthurt for what? not having a higher pick ? Cavs took Sexton after Young was gone :crazy:
the truth is backers of Young can't comprehend how anyone would legitimately not like his game ,and chose to pretend there is no legitimate justification for not...but its clear to me you like many others don't value defense at all. That's your option, and one I would never be on board with... bashing my opinion because it isn't on the same train as the majority is far more weak than Youngs defense any day.
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Post#1306 » by Stillwater » Mon Mar 4, 2019 8:12 pm

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OK I'll give props where it seems due... lets just see how he does down the stretch after the scouting reports for March are released.
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Post#1307 » by doordoor123 » Tue Mar 5, 2019 2:32 pm

I was expecting him to be good, you people that doubted him clearly don’t understand how this works. The few of you calling him slow are honestly terrible evaluators and doubting his advanced handle/advanced passing. Lol seriously, why do you waste your time here?
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Post#1309 » by kg01 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:07 pm

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OK I'll give props where it seems due... lets just see how he does down the stretch after the scouting reports for March are released.


:lol:

There's literally 10 games left in our season. When are all these fancy scouting reports gonna start kickin' in, man?

We're 3-1 vs the Heat this season and he's basically torched them each time out. Is Spoelstra sitting back thinking, "Nah, nah ... let's wait til next season to unleash the secret weapons on 'im. Mwahahaahaaa!"

C'mon, man.
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Re: Trae Young 

Post#1310 » by Stillwater » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:14 pm

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OK I'll give props where it seems due... lets just see how he does down the stretch after the scouting reports for March are released.


:lol:

There's literally 10 games left in our season. When are all these fancy scouting reports gonna start kickin' in, man?

We're 3-1 vs the Heat this season and he's basically torched them each time out. Is Spoelstra sitting back thinking, "Nah, nah ... let's wait til next season to unleash the secret weapons on 'im. Mwahahaahaaa!"

C'mon, man.

YEAH I STILL DON'T LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE PLAYS BAD DEFENSE.
LOOK AT SEXTONS NUMBERS IN THE LAST 6 GAMES AND TELL ME WHO LOOKS LIKE THE BETTER LONG-TERM PROSPECT,NEVER MIND THE HOMER BIAS GENE WILL KICK IN AND YOUR COMMENTS ARE MOOT JUST LIKE MINE APPARENTLY ARE.
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Post#1311 » by kg01 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:25 pm

Uhm ... ok?
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Post#1312 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:36 pm

Stillwater wrote:LOOK AT SEXTONS NUMBERS IN THE LAST 6 GAMES AND TELL ME WHO LOOKS LIKE THE BETTER LONG-TERM PROSPECT




Sexton's been playing well lately, probably his most impressive stretch of the season.

But it's difficult to heap too much praise when he only avg 3 apg during that 6 game stretch you cherry picked.

In the month of March:

Collin is avg 23 ppg/3 apg/2 rpg on 51% shooting from the field and 49% shooting from 3 in 35 mpg.
Trae is avg 22 ppg/8 apg/5 rpg on 45% shooting from the field and 37% shooting from 3 in 32 mpg.

Both are very impressive. But Collin is playing more minutes and getting less than half as many assists as well as fewer rebounds.

In no month this season has Collin avg as many as 4 apg. Sexton's gonna be good. But his overall production has been limited to scoring. He seems better suited as an undersized 2-guard, because he has never really shown an affinity for creating for others.
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Post#1313 » by kg01 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:03 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Sexton's been playing well lately, probably his most impressive stretch of the season.

But it's difficult to heap too much praise when he only avg 3 apg during that 6 game stretch you cherry picked.

In the month of March:

Collin is avg 23 ppg/3 apg/2 rpg on 51% shooting from the field and 49% shooting from 3 in 35 mpg.
Trae is avg 22 ppg/8 apg/5 rpg on 45% shooting from the field and 37% shooting from 3 in 32 mpg.

Both are very impressive. But Collin is playing more minutes and getting less than half as many assists as well as fewer rebounds.

In no month this season has Collin avg as many as 4 apg. Sexton's gonna be good. But his overall production has been limited to scoring. He seems better suited as an undersized 2-guard, because he has never really shown an affinity for creating for others.


I'm also confused how his big problem with Trae is his defense ... but somehow Sexton is supposed to be better than him longterm although ... Sexton is supposedly a worse defender? 'Splain it to me, @jamall
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Post#1314 » by Stillwater » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:39 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:Sexton's been playing well lately, probably his most impressive stretch of the season.

But it's difficult to heap too much praise when he only avg 3 apg during that 6 game stretch you cherry picked.

In the month of March:

Collin is avg 23 ppg/3 apg/2 rpg on 51% shooting from the field and 49% shooting from 3 in 35 mpg.
Trae is avg 22 ppg/8 apg/5 rpg on 45% shooting from the field and 37% shooting from 3 in 32 mpg.

Both are very impressive. But Collin is playing more minutes and getting less than half as many assists as well as fewer rebounds.

In no month this season has Collin avg as many as 4 apg. Sexton's gonna be good. But his overall production has been limited to scoring. He seems better suited as an undersized 2-guard, because he has never really shown an affinity for creating for others.


I'm also confused how his big problem with Trae is his defense ... but somehow Sexton is supposed to be better than him longterm although ... Sexton is supposedly a worse defender? 'Splain it to me, @jamall

Thats a reasonable point, but Sexton has a +4 ws and elite speed and decent athleticism none of the things Young can say about himself which will limit his ability to become a + defender etc. yeah Young is a true pg ,Sexton is like most pg's in the modern nba;score first dish later etc. if Sexton does not become a good defender,that's a different story,but clearly young has a tougher road to being one and it will most certainly be limited to guarding small guards with no switching ability. Sextons best ball has come of late,but it's a testament to his brutal work ethic and drive. IDK but it seems to me that despite Youngs better numbers as true pg, he will always struggle to defend and get that shot off at a respectable %,esp in the playoffs.
I've said my peace regarding Young,and overall he is much better than I thought he would be so I'll eat crow on that...but I still stand by my belief he is not the better long term prospect than Sexton and certainly not better than Luka.
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Post#1315 » by kg01 » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:40 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:Sexton's been playing well lately, probably his most impressive stretch of the season.

But it's difficult to heap too much praise when he only avg 3 apg during that 6 game stretch you cherry picked.

In the month of March:

Collin is avg 23 ppg/3 apg/2 rpg on 51% shooting from the field and 49% shooting from 3 in 35 mpg.
Trae is avg 22 ppg/8 apg/5 rpg on 45% shooting from the field and 37% shooting from 3 in 32 mpg.

Both are very impressive. But Collin is playing more minutes and getting less than half as many assists as well as fewer rebounds.

In no month this season has Collin avg as many as 4 apg. Sexton's gonna be good. But his overall production has been limited to scoring. He seems better suited as an undersized 2-guard, because he has never really shown an affinity for creating for others.


I'm also confused how his big problem with Trae is his defense ... but somehow Sexton is supposed to be better than him longterm although ... Sexton is supposedly a worse defender? 'Splain it to me, @jamall

Thats a reasonable point, but Sexton has a +4 ws and elite speed and decent athleticism none of the things Young can say about himself which will limit his ability to become a + defender etc. yeah Young is a true pg ,Sexton is like most pg's in the modern nba;score first dish later etc. if Sexton does not become a good defender,that's a different story,but clearly young has a tougher road to being one and it will most certainly be limited to guarding small guards with no switching ability. Sextons best ball has come of late,but it's a testament to his brutal work ethic and drive. IDK but it seems to me that despite Youngs better numbers as true pg, he will always struggle to defend and get that shot off at a respectable %,esp in the playoffs.
I've said my peace regarding Young,and overall he is much better than I thought he would be so I'll eat crow on that...but I still stand by my belief he is not the better long term prospect than Sexton and certainly not better than Luka.


That's all we can ax for from you at this point, Stillw.

Now let's hug it out and be friends from now on. C'mon, gimme a bro-hug. :)
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Post#1316 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:52 pm

kg01 wrote:I'm also confused how his big problem with Trae is his defense ... but somehow Sexton is supposed to be better than him longterm although ... Sexton is supposedly a worse defender? 'Splain it to me, @jamall


1. I'm not defending or equivocating Trae Young's defensive woes. He's been bad, period.

2. Regarding the poster above -- I believe the term is confirmation bias. He's already made up his mind what Trae is and will be. And now, even as Trae thrives and garners acclaim, attention, admiration, this gentleman still seeks any reason to justify his preconceived notion of what Trae will (or will not) become.


The Hawks offense has been extremely impressive of late. And Trae Young has been the catalyst of that. Young has clearly exceed Stillwater's meager expectations

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Post#1317 » by Stillwater » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:40 pm

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kg01 wrote:I'm also confused how his big problem with Trae is his defense ... but somehow Sexton is supposed to be better than him longterm although ... Sexton is supposedly a worse defender? 'Splain it to me, @jamall


1. I'm not defending or equivocating Trae Young's defensive woes. He's been bad, period.

2. Regarding the poster above -- I believe the term is confirmation bias. He's already made up his mind what Trae is and will be. And now, even as Trae thrives and garners acclaim, attention, admiration, this gentleman still seeks any reason to justify his preconceived notion of what Trae will (or will not) become.


The Hawks offense has been extremely impressive of late. And Trae Young has been the catalyst of that. Young has clearly exceed Stillwater's meager expectations

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Exceeding my expectations isn't saying much since I didn't expect much of anything ... :lol:
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Post#1319 » by MemphisX » Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:14 pm

So if Trae ends up better than Luka, is it still a bad trade? Asking for a friend...
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