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Re: Mavericks Summer of 2019 

Post#61 » by arkuo » Sat Mar 2, 2019 3:03 pm

I wouldnt put it past Cuban to offer our huge $21M trade exception to Miami for Dragic and their first round pick. That pick from Miami is projected at 16. Which is in the range of Deandre Hunter.

C- Powell / ?
PF- Porzingis / Kleber
SF- DFS / Hunter
SG- Dragic / THJ
PG- Doncic / Brunson
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Post#62 » by juanc » Sat Mar 2, 2019 3:39 pm

arkuo wrote:I wouldnt put it past Cuban to offer our huge $21M trade exception to Miami for Dragic and their first round pick. That pick from Miami is projected at 16. Which is in the range of Deandre Hunter.

C- Powell / ?
PF- Porzingis / Kleber
SF- DFS / Hunter
SG- Dragic / THJ
PG- Doncic / Brunson

Big LOL at Deandre Hunter falling to 16...
I would love if the Mavs would draft him with the 4th pick(if they get it)
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Post#63 » by Darren » Sun Mar 3, 2019 12:46 am

juanc wrote:
arkuo wrote:I wouldnt put it past Cuban to offer our huge $21M trade exception to Miami for Dragic and their first round pick. That pick from Miami is projected at 16. Which is in the range of Deandre Hunter.

C- Powell / ?
PF- Porzingis / Kleber
SF- DFS / Hunter
SG- Dragic / THJ
PG- Doncic / Brunson

Big LOL at Deandre Hunter falling to 16...
I would love if the Mavs would draft him with the 4th pick(if they get it)


I think Bol Bol is likely available there. But I don't think the Mavs should take Bol Bol in this draft range. To pair up with Zinger, the other frontcourt starter should be:
1.rebounding presence
2.move feet extremely well
3.can block shots
4.lob target
5.able to defend smaller player.
6.hopefully, can hit some shots (from FT and long range)

Bol Bol is not just that. I'd rather look at 3D player (either PF or swingman) or Jet-lite from that range. For that reason, I think Giannis is a great fit. Potentially, Kosta as well. In Kosta, I see a combination of Powell and DFS with higher defensive potential. That the kind of flexibility any team will love.
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Post#64 » by oligo » Sun Mar 3, 2019 11:27 am

Since the tradeline is over, everybody noticed that we DESPERATELY need rebounders!

If for some reason KP goes down, you need an equivalent backup. For me, Julius Randle looks like a 100% match, since his skill set perfectly complements with KP's. I'm also high on Al-Faruq Aminu, and that's it. In the best case scenario, Powel can be only a 2nd unit and I'm not considering him as a starter at all.

Lauri Markkanen for $30M bucks? Yes, why not, he's not worth it quite yet, but when he hits his prime and stays healthy, he will be worth it. No doubt. But this discussion has no sense because you already signed KP and he is not likely to leave.
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Post#65 » by Darren » Sun Mar 3, 2019 11:45 am

arkuo wrote:I wouldnt put it past Cuban to offer our huge $21M trade exception to Miami for Dragic and their first round pick. That pick from Miami is projected at 16. Which is in the range of Deandre Hunter.

C- Powell / ?
PF- Porzingis / Kleber
SF- DFS / Hunter
SG- Dragic / THJ
PG- Doncic / Brunson



I can see Charlotte to open up cap rooms for something. Meanwhile, the Mavs plans on 2020, taking on Biyombo for #16 is pretty solid.
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Post#66 » by Darren » Sun Mar 3, 2019 12:00 pm

By 16, most likely, Bol Bol is the most player on board. This is a high risk-high reward situation. I wonder if the Mavs find it interesting at all. Shot-blocking and spacing could be great. But rebounding is questionable.
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Post#67 » by Darren » Sun Mar 3, 2019 12:05 pm

If the Mavs is looking of PG, then it's easy to get one from mid to late 1st by taking on salary.
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Post#68 » by Darren » Sun Mar 3, 2019 12:17 pm

But I think signing Randle, Hezonja to build a deep team is better option. In my opinion, Randle is better fit to the uptempo style of play. While Julius is not known as a shotblocker, Randle can shoot, handle, pass, rebound. I think the Mavs has an edge in overall efficiency. Randle is from Texas. I expect some interests for homecoming. If Powell opts out, I can see the Mavs desperate for this type of player.
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Post#69 » by JamesConway » Sun Mar 3, 2019 12:24 pm

I'm ready to start Powell alongside Porzingis. We'd have an elite PnR finisher and an elite PnP floor spacer in our frontcourt. Luka does the perimeter magic and then you either hope to get the Kemba-signing done and start DFS as the fifth guy or Middleton agrees to come and Brunson fills in as the last starter.

Basically:

C: Powell
PF: Porzingis
SG/SF: Finney-Smith
SG/SF: Doncic
PG: Walker

or

C: Powell
PF: Porzingis
SG/SF: Middleton
SG/SF: Doncic
PG: Brunson

Dwight has shown enough for me to get promoted. We can't pay him $10M forever to come off the bench and be an 18 minutes per game-guy. He had amazing chemistry with Dirk for years so him & KP should work out. Then -- if we even get to the point -- you gotta make the decision of which FA you want to chase. Personally I think Kemba is a superior player to Middleton but the latter probably is the better fit. I'd be happy with either scenario but for me it's Kemba > Middleton.

I REALLY like Randle too but the FO does not appear to value that type of big man at all so I have crossed him off the list for the most part. Slow footed guys like Vucevic/Boogie don't make a whole lot of sense Imo alongside Kristaps.
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Post#70 » by Darren » Sun Mar 3, 2019 12:31 pm

I think Porter is available by taking on salary.
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Post#71 » by Darren » Sun Mar 3, 2019 12:39 pm

It is easy to find PF/C or PG at 16 range. It's a little bit shallow when it comes to elite shooters or outstanding defenders.
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Post#72 » by Teffer10 » Sun Mar 3, 2019 3:38 pm

JamesConway wrote:I'm ready to start Powell alongside Porzingis. We'd have an elite PnR finisher and an elite PnP floor spacer in our frontcourt. Luka does the perimeter magic and then you either hope to get the Kemba-signing done and start DFS as the fifth guy or Middleton agrees to come and Brunson fills in as the last starter.

Basically:

C: Powell
PF: Porzingis
SG/SF: Finney-Smith
SG/SF: Doncic
PG: Walker

or

C: Powell
PF: Porzingis
SG/SF: Middleton
SG/SF: Doncic
PG: Brunson

Dwight has shown enough for me to get promoted. We can't pay him $10M forever to come off the bench and be an 18 minutes per game-guy. He had amazing chemistry with Dirk for years so him & KP should work out. Then -- if we even get to the point -- you gotta make the decision of which FA you want to chase. Personally I think Kemba is a superior player to Middleton but the latter probably is the better fit. I'd be happy with either scenario but for me it's Kemba > Middleton.

I REALLY like Randle too but the FO does not appear to value that type of big man at all so I have crossed him off the list for the most part. Slow footed guys like Vucevic/Boogie don't make a whole lot of sense Imo alongside Kristaps.

I'd be fine trying out Powell with KP to start off the season and see how it goes but I'm thinking we'd get absolutely killed on the boards every game and that could be a problem. Valanciunas and Noah really exposed our interior weaknesses last night and I'm not sure KP would have made a big difference.
But I'd be fine with starting out a Powell/KP frontcourt (especially if Powell can become consistent with the 3) and then try to find a DJ/TC type center via trade (Lee/Powell) if it doesn't work.
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Post#73 » by Pinkyring » Sun Mar 3, 2019 4:54 pm

JamesConway wrote:I'm ready to start Powell alongside Porzingis. We'd have an elite PnR finisher and an elite PnP floor spacer in our frontcourt. Luka does the perimeter magic and then you either hope to get the Kemba-signing done and start DFS as the fifth guy or Middleton agrees to come and Brunson fills in as the last starter.

Basically:

C: Powell
PF: Porzingis
SG/SF: Finney-Smith
SG/SF: Doncic
PG: Walker

or

C: Powell
PF: Porzingis
SG/SF: Middleton
SG/SF: Doncic
PG: Brunson

Dwight has shown enough for me to get promoted. We can't pay him $10M forever to come off the bench and be an 18 minutes per game-guy. He had amazing chemistry with Dirk for years so him & KP should work out. Then -- if we even get to the point -- you gotta make the decision of which FA you want to chase. Personally I think Kemba is a superior player to Middleton but the latter probably is the better fit. I'd be happy with either scenario but for me it's Kemba > Middleton.

I REALLY like Randle too but the FO does not appear to value that type of big man at all so I have crossed him off the list for the most part. Slow footed guys like Vucevic/Boogie don't make a whole lot of sense Imo alongside Kristaps.

So u provide 2 roster examples of no defense, rebounding, and consistent perimeter shooting, wonderful
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Post#74 » by Pointguard01 » Sun Mar 3, 2019 6:29 pm

arkuo wrote:I wouldnt put it past Cuban to offer our huge $21M trade exception to Miami for Dragic and their first round pick. That pick from Miami is projected at 16. Which is in the range of Deandre Hunter.

C- Powell / ?
PF- Porzingis / Kleber
SF- DFS / Hunter
SG- Dragic / THJ
PG- Doncic / Brunson


Maybe not this exact example, but I do like this type of move. Use our cap space and then the TE to get a couple assets. I would rather take on bad salary, one-year deals than sign average starters like Julius Randle, Terry Rozier, or Thaddeus Young to long-term deals.

I'm leaning towards going hard after Nikola Vučević, and then using the 20-mill trade exception to take on a bad 1-year deal and get some kind of asset. Would really set us up for a future trade and we'd be instantly better.
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Post#75 » by Jg41 » Mon Mar 4, 2019 6:11 pm

The pipiest of pipe dreams:

Win lottery and draft Zion Williamson

Draft combo guard with 2nd Rd Pick

Trade Lee / Powell (PO) / Brunson / (2) Future 2nd Rd Picks / Max Cash Considerations to Memphis for Mike Conley

Renounce rights to DFS

Release Broekhoff

Sign Thaddeus Young to 2 Year ~$31 million deal (Remaining cap space with a max raise in year 2)

Sign Draft Picks

Resign Porzingis to Max 5 year $158 million deal

Sign Tyson Chandler or Joakim Noah to Biannual Exception with PO on Year 2

Resign Dirk, Barea, Harris, and Mejri to Veteran Minimums

Resign Kleber to 4 year $44.8 million (10/10.8/11.6/12.4)...TO on 3rd year with $1.6 million guaranteed if declined...PO on 4th year)

Leave one Roster Spot open and Keep Kostas & Macon on 2-ways to groom as replacements for Dirk and Harris the following year.

PG - Conley / Barea / Harris
SG - Doncic / THJ / 2nd Rd. Pick
SF - Williamson / Jackson
PF - Young / Kleber / Nowitzki
C - Porzingis / Chandler / Mejri

If option is declined on Maxi, the team will have enough space to sign Giannis in 2021 with $20-30M+ to throw at their bench depending on the cap.
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Re: Mavericks Summer of 2019 

Post#76 » by dakomish23 » Tue Mar 5, 2019 2:33 pm

Go after Vonleh if you can get him on the cheap and Powell opts out. Similar player to Klaber. Can’t have enough of those types of guys.
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Re: Mavericks Summer of 2019 

Post#77 » by something47 » Tue Mar 5, 2019 7:43 pm

Sign

- Brogdon 4yr/40mil
- Porzingiz 5yr/158mil
- Kleber 3yr/21mil
- DFS 4ry/28mil

- Trade for Favors or Triston Thompson (Use Barnes Exception, both on last year of their contracts so no long term investment)
*Ideally we could find a way to trade of Drummond however unlikely, even if it means taking on salary

Roster:

PG - Brogdon/ Brunson/ JJ/ Harris
SG - DFS/ THJ/ Lee
SF - Luka/ Jackson/ Brokoff
PF - Favors or Thompson/ Powell
C - Porzingiz/ Kleber/ Kostas


- Brogdon is a lanky PG who can defend multiple spots on the floor, hit open shots, and handle the ball as a secondary play maker
- DFS would be a 3&D players who can guard 1-4
- THJ as a 6th man would be great
- Favors and Thompson can bang down low and grab rebounds
- Porzingiz and Kleber add the shot blocking presence around the rim

This team is would have a well rounded starting unit, and extremely strong 2nd unit. The flexibility of this team would also allow for Rick to mix and match players depending on matchups.
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Post#78 » by Darren » Tue Mar 5, 2019 9:12 pm

Irving, anyone? Statistically, an ideal player plug-in to the system. But the Mavs offers neither homecoming or instant contending. At 27 with that resume, I can't see the Mavs not interested in Irving. Personally, I'd rather have Irving than Kemba. Nearly 50-40-90 with 7 assists; elite attacking the rim; can work w/ or w/o the ball; clutch; big stage performer; champion; force TO. The Mavs does offer Irving longest contending windows. Obviously, neither teaming up with LBJ nor another star at NYK could offer.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html
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Post#79 » by dirkforpres » Tue Mar 5, 2019 11:11 pm

Darren wrote:Irving, anyone? Statistically, an ideal player plug-in to the system. But the Mavs offers neither homecoming or instant contending. At 27 with that resume, I can't see the Mavs not interested in Irving. Personally, I'd rather have Irving than Kemba. Nearly 50-40-90 with 7 assists; elite attacking the rim; can work w/ or w/o the ball; clutch; big stage performer; champion; force TO. The Mavs does offer Irving longest contending windows. Obviously, neither teaming up with LBJ nor another star at NYK could offer.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/irvinky01.html


Doesn’t really do it for me, and he is definitely not a Carlisle kind of guy.

Durant, Kawhi, Kemba, or Vuc (in that order) should be our only free agent targets
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Post#80 » by donkeylips » Wed Mar 6, 2019 12:02 am

you don't like middleton for this team?
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