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2018/2019 NBA draft talk: Who should be our target? (Poll)

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Who is the perfect fit?

RJ Barrett
32
33%
Ja Morant
14
14%
Zion Williamson
11
11%
Cameron Reddish
6
6%
Darius Garland
5
5%
Kevin Porter
9
9%
Romeo Langford
8
8%
Keldon Johnson
1
1%
Nassir Little
7
7%
Jarrett Culver
4
4%
 
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Post#441 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Mar 5, 2019 12:37 pm

NBAdraft.net shows us taking Nickeil Alexander-Walker. I like him alot.
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Post#442 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Tue Mar 5, 2019 1:53 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:NBAdraft.net shows us taking Nickeil Alexander-Walker. I like him alot.


Sucks he’s having to play more lead guard with Justin Robinson out. However it’s really showing how versatile he can be and in a good way is forcing him to grow in that area.
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Post#443 » by Nemesis21 » Tue Mar 5, 2019 2:12 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:NBAdraft.net shows us taking Nickeil Alexander-Walker. I like him alot.


He's a top 10-12 pick. The Magic won't be picking that high.
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Post#444 » by MoMM » Tue Mar 5, 2019 2:22 pm

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BadMofoPimp wrote:NBAdraft.net shows us taking Nickeil Alexander-Walker. I like him alot.


He's a top 10-12 pick. The Magic won't be picking that high.

Not sure, NBA Draft has him at 15th and Tankathon at 17th.
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Re: 2018/2019 NBA draft talk: Who should be our target? (Poll) 

Post#445 » by Nemesis21 » Tue Mar 5, 2019 2:49 pm

MoMM wrote:
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BadMofoPimp wrote:NBAdraft.net shows us taking Nickeil Alexander-Walker. I like him alot.


He's a top 10-12 pick. The Magic won't be picking that high.

Not sure, NBA Draft has him at 15th and Tankathon at 17th.



And? I've seen other sites having him at 7 and 10. He's very similar and on a similar rise to SGA. Where did SGA get picked? 11th
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Post#446 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Mar 5, 2019 3:02 pm

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He's a top 10-12 pick. The Magic won't be picking that high.

Not sure, NBA Draft has him at 15th and Tankathon at 17th.



And? I've seen other sites having him at 7 and 10. He's very similar and on a similar rise to SGA. Where did SGA get picked? 11th


Magic could always move down to #11. By the way, what sites have him at #7 and #10. I would like to expand my site base for more info. Thanks -BMP
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Post#447 » by IllMagic04 » Tue Mar 5, 2019 10:06 pm

These mock drafts I've been reading are all over the place. How do yall feel about Coby White? Bleacher report had him going 13 while tankathon had him going 28 and I saw another one with him in the mid 20's. I think he'd be a good fit here. At 6'5 he could be a solid combo guard, I'm not sure if his ball handling and playmaking skills are good enough to be a full time PG but he could bring some legit shot making to our back court.
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Post#448 » by Xatticus » Tue Mar 5, 2019 11:11 pm

IllMagic04 wrote:These mock drafts I've been reading are all over the place. How do yall feel about Coby White? Bleacher report had him going 13 while tankathon had him going 28 and I saw another one with him in the mid 20's. I think he'd be a good fit here. At 6'5 he could be a solid combo guard, I'm not sure if his ball handling and playmaking skills are good enough to be a full time PG but he could bring some legit shot making to our back court.


I like him. He does a lot of the things we need more of from our backcourt.

He's a combo guard. That's often an unflattering designation for undersized shooting guards. I don't think it should be construed as such for White. He doesn't have ideal size for a two guard, but he should be fine as he gets stronger. He doesn't really have plus size or athleticism, so that will limit his defensive upside and you have to question how some of his skills will translate against the superior athletes in the NBA. He can shoot and create though. That's a good combination to have. I don't think his dribble is much of an asset at the moment, but he sees the floor well.

I don't know why mock drafts have him going all over the place. I think he will be gone by the late lottery though. So if we make the playoffs, I think he would be out of our range.
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Re: 2018/2019 NBA draft talk: Who should be our target? (Poll) 

Post#449 » by BadHombre » Wed Mar 6, 2019 12:03 am

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IllMagic04 wrote:These mock drafts I've been reading are all over the place. How do yall feel about Coby White? Bleacher report had him going 13 while tankathon had him going 28 and I saw another one with him in the mid 20's. I think he'd be a good fit here. At 6'5 he could be a solid combo guard, I'm not sure if his ball handling and playmaking skills are good enough to be a full time PG but he could bring some legit shot making to our back court.


I like him. He does a lot of the things we need more of from our backcourt.

He's a combo guard. That's often an unflattering designation for undersized shooting guards. I don't think it should be construed as such for White. He doesn't have ideal size for a two guard, but he should be fine as he gets stronger. He doesn't really have plus size or athleticism, so that will limit his defensive upside and you have to question how some of his skills will translate against the superior athletes in the NBA. He can shoot and create though. That's a good combination to have. I don't think his dribble is much of an asset at the moment, but he sees the floor well.

I don't know why mock drafts have him going all over the place. I think he will be gone by the late lottery though. So if we make the playoffs, I think he would be out of our range.


I really like the look of White and the type of game he’ll bring to the league. But he looks very similar to Fournier’s style of play offensively, just with better passing. Defensively he looks like a competitor who can knock balls loose and get his hands in the lane.

I know you’re not a huge Fournier fan, so how do you feel about that comp?
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Re: 2018/2019 NBA draft talk: Who should be our target? (Poll) 

Post#450 » by Nemesis21 » Wed Mar 6, 2019 1:00 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
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MoMM wrote:Not sure, NBA Draft has him at 15th and Tankathon at 17th.



And? I've seen other sites having him at 7 and 10. He's very similar and on a similar rise to SGA. Where did SGA get picked? 11th


Magic could always move down to #11. By the way, what sites have him at #7 and #10. I would like to expand my site base for more info. Thanks -BMP



NBA Draft Room has him at 4, I thought it was 7. And the site having him at 10, can't remember off the top of my head I'll look it up. Was Yahoo or SI I think.
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Re: 2018/2019 NBA draft talk: Who should be our target? (Poll) 

Post#451 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed Mar 6, 2019 1:00 am

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IllMagic04 wrote:These mock drafts I've been reading are all over the place. How do yall feel about Coby White? Bleacher report had him going 13 while tankathon had him going 28 and I saw another one with him in the mid 20's. I think he'd be a good fit here. At 6'5 he could be a solid combo guard, I'm not sure if his ball handling and playmaking skills are good enough to be a full time PG but he could bring some legit shot making to our back court.


I like him. He does a lot of the things we need more of from our backcourt.

He's a combo guard. That's often an unflattering designation for undersized shooting guards. I don't think it should be construed as such for White. He doesn't have ideal size for a two guard, but he should be fine as he gets stronger. He doesn't really have plus size or athleticism, so that will limit his defensive upside and you have to question how some of his skills will translate against the superior athletes in the NBA. He can shoot and create though. That's a good combination to have. I don't think his dribble is much of an asset at the moment, but he sees the floor well.

I don't know why mock drafts have him going all over the place. I think he will be gone by the late lottery though. So if we make the playoffs, I think he would be out of our range.


I really like the look of White and the type of game he’ll bring to the league. But he looks very similar to Fournier’s style of play offensively, just with better passing. Defensively he looks like a competitor who can knock balls loose and get his hands in the lane.

I know you’re not a huge Fournier fan, so how do you feel about that comp?


I see more D Mitchell in White than I do Fournier. His 1st step is lightning quick and he can finish at the hoop. Also can hit from deep 3 and has gotten better at his passing/playmaking skills as years gone on.
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Post#452 » by BadHombre » Wed Mar 6, 2019 1:06 am

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I like him. He does a lot of the things we need more of from our backcourt.

He's a combo guard. That's often an unflattering designation for undersized shooting guards. I don't think it should be construed as such for White. He doesn't have ideal size for a two guard, but he should be fine as he gets stronger. He doesn't really have plus size or athleticism, so that will limit his defensive upside and you have to question how some of his skills will translate against the superior athletes in the NBA. He can shoot and create though. That's a good combination to have. I don't think his dribble is much of an asset at the moment, but he sees the floor well.

I don't know why mock drafts have him going all over the place. I think he will be gone by the late lottery though. So if we make the playoffs, I think he would be out of our range.


I really like the look of White and the type of game he’ll bring to the league. But he looks very similar to Fournier’s style of play offensively, just with better passing. Defensively he looks like a competitor who can knock balls loose and get his hands in the lane.

I know you’re not a huge Fournier fan, so how do you feel about that comp?


I see more D Mitchell in White than I do Fournier. His 1st step is lightning quick and he can finish at the hoop. Also can hit from deep 3 and has gotten better at his passing/playmaking skills as years gone on.


I don't really see that much, other than them both being strong on the ball. Mitchell, in college anyway, had remarkable finishing ability, and used his huge wingspan to keep the ball well out of arms reach of blocks whilst drawing contact. I always felt Mitchell looked quite Wade-like in that regard.

Coby, on the other hand, seems to work a lot coming down the lane from the top of the perimeter either with a head of steam or off the dribble, and he muscles up against vertical bodies trying to get himself to the rim, eventually being able to push his arms forwards to the rim and out of reach from the defender. That's Fournier's signature drive move. Meanwhile, they're also both great shooters who can play off the ball well, too.

In my opinion anyway. It's like discussing art and trying to pick what influences the artist features in their work - it can be very subjective.
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Post#453 » by Xatticus » Wed Mar 6, 2019 1:13 am

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IllMagic04 wrote:These mock drafts I've been reading are all over the place. How do yall feel about Coby White? Bleacher report had him going 13 while tankathon had him going 28 and I saw another one with him in the mid 20's. I think he'd be a good fit here. At 6'5 he could be a solid combo guard, I'm not sure if his ball handling and playmaking skills are good enough to be a full time PG but he could bring some legit shot making to our back court.


I like him. He does a lot of the things we need more of from our backcourt.

He's a combo guard. That's often an unflattering designation for undersized shooting guards. I don't think it should be construed as such for White. He doesn't have ideal size for a two guard, but he should be fine as he gets stronger. He doesn't really have plus size or athleticism, so that will limit his defensive upside and you have to question how some of his skills will translate against the superior athletes in the NBA. He can shoot and create though. That's a good combination to have. I don't think his dribble is much of an asset at the moment, but he sees the floor well.

I don't know why mock drafts have him going all over the place. I think he will be gone by the late lottery though. So if we make the playoffs, I think he would be out of our range.


I really like the look of White and the type of game he’ll bring to the league. But he looks very similar to Fournier’s style of play offensively, just with better passing. Defensively he looks like a competitor who can knock balls loose and get his hands in the lane.

I know you’re not a huge Fournier fan, so how do you feel about that comp?


I just don't see that comparison. Fournier is a poor athlete by NBA standards that guards twos or threes. White is an adequate athlete that is going to guard ones and twos.

Everything Fournier does is in slow motion. That's not intended as an insult. He uses change of pace and positioning to create space and he is terrific at curling off of screens. He has a nice floater game and he can finish in the paint if a help defender doesn't show up, but otherwise he is basically a set shot specialist. This is because he doesn't have the physical tools to create space. I believe White is much better in this regard and makes him a threat at shooting off the dribble.

I believe White has significantly better court vision as well. Fournier's assists come from running the two man game with Vucevic and by understanding where players should be and where help defenders are coming from. White dribbles with his head up and sees cutters and open players.

I'd liken White to Jamal Murray. Murray was better, but their skill sets are comparable.

I don't really dislike Fournier. I just think he is grossly overpaid for what he is. He can score, but he also hurts you when he is on the floor. I think he should be used situationally to provide offense when it is needed.
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Post#454 » by Nemesis21 » Wed Mar 6, 2019 2:29 pm

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I like him. He does a lot of the things we need more of from our backcourt.

He's a combo guard. That's often an unflattering designation for undersized shooting guards. I don't think it should be construed as such for White. He doesn't have ideal size for a two guard, but he should be fine as he gets stronger. He doesn't really have plus size or athleticism, so that will limit his defensive upside and you have to question how some of his skills will translate against the superior athletes in the NBA. He can shoot and create though. That's a good combination to have. I don't think his dribble is much of an asset at the moment, but he sees the floor well.

I don't know why mock drafts have him going all over the place. I think he will be gone by the late lottery though. So if we make the playoffs, I think he would be out of our range.


I really like the look of White and the type of game he’ll bring to the league. But he looks very similar to Fournier’s style of play offensively, just with better passing. Defensively he looks like a competitor who can knock balls loose and get his hands in the lane.

I know you’re not a huge Fournier fan, so how do you feel about that comp?


I just don't see that comparison. Fournier is a poor athlete by NBA standards that guards twos or threes. White is an adequate athlete that is going to guard ones and twos.

Everything Fournier does is in slow motion. That's not intended as an insult. He uses change of pace and positioning to create space and he is terrific at curling off of screens. He has a nice floater game and he can finish in the paint if a help defender doesn't show up, but otherwise he is basically a set shot specialist. This is because he doesn't have the physical tools to create space. I believe White is much better in this regard and makes him a threat at shooting off the dribble.

I believe White has significantly better court vision as well. Fournier's assists come from running the two man game with Vucevic and by understanding where players should be and where help defenders are coming from. White dribbles with his head up and sees cutters and open players.

I'd liken White to Jamal Murray. Murray was better, but their skill sets are comparable.

I don't really dislike Fournier. I just think he is grossly overpaid for what he is. He can score, but he also hurts you when he is on the floor. I think he should be used situationally to provide offense when it is needed.



Agree good comp. Jamal Murray was what I was thinking, maybe even some Cuttino Mobley.
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Post#456 » by Knightro » Fri Mar 8, 2019 10:48 pm

Things are fluid, but as of now...

Making the playoffs = 15th pick.
Missing the playoffs = 10th or 11th pick.

So it's perfectly reasonable to evaluate prospects in the 8-12 range right now.
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Post#457 » by Def Swami » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:06 am

I'm increasingly drawn to Coby White.
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Post#458 » by IllMagic04 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:03 pm

Def Swami wrote:I'm increasingly drawn to Coby White.
Me too. I just fear he wont be on the board since we may make the playoffs. He'd probally be on the board at 10-13 but at 15 hes gonna be gone.

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Post#459 » by NotACat » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:35 pm

IllMagic04 wrote:
Def Swami wrote:I'm increasingly drawn to Coby White.
Me too. I just fear he wont be on the board since we may make the playoffs. He'd probally be on the board at 10-13 but at 15 hes gonna be gone.

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I think I still prefer NAW over Coby White. Mocks have NAW in our range as well, even if we make the playoffs
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Post#460 » by drsd » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:00 pm

Knightro wrote:Things are fluid, but as of now...

Making the playoffs = 15th pick.
Missing the playoffs = 10th or 11th pick.

So it's perfectly reasonable to evaluate prospects in the 8-12 range right now.


At 11, I would think the magic is looking at a player such as Jarrett Culver, Romeo Langford, or DeAndre Hunter.

At 15, those three could all be off the board meaning a player such as Nickeil Alexander-Walker or Sekou Doumbouya.

In the end this is looking a lot as if the Magic will end up with a SG or SF out of the draft. Either way, this leads to good bench depth. And that is basically what a team aspires for in this 11-15 range.


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