2019 NBA draft

[jmr07019]

You can role the dice on Bol if we have a high pick, though I'm concerned because some of his weaknesses will take him out of games based on how bad they are in this era.

Burno Fernando should be a lock for us. If he's available with our first, we take him.

At that point, go with a combination with of Doumbouya, Clarke, Tre Jones and White.

(I'm assuming none of Little, Hunter, Garland, Culver, Hayes are available when the SAC pick is up).

I think Bol could fall to the Sac pick. Little, Hunter, Garland, Culver, Hayes plus Zion, Barrett, Reddish and Morantis is already 9 players. Sac pick probably comes in at 14. I agree Bol has weaknesses but he's a good gamble at 14 in what has been called a weak draft.

I like Fernando too. Give me a big with some athleticism and upside PLEASSSSE.

[bucknersrevenge]

If we don't make the deal we still have a ton of youth. I'd still want to trade some of it for an established player. Between Smart, Tatum, Brown, Rozier, Williams, Ojeleye, and if you even care, RJ Hunter, we have enough youth that we don't need to draft much more of it unless it's truly a top end player.

[big-shot-ROB]

If we don't make the deal we still have a ton of youth. I'd still want to trade some of it for an established player. Between Smart, Tatum, Brown, Rozier, Williams, Ojeleye, and if you even care, RJ Hunter, we have enough youth that we don't need to draft much more of it unless it's truly a top end player.

This draft class is pretty weak in terms of star talent, but is filled with sophomores and juniors that could contribute right away.

[djFan71]

I'll go on record as saying Bol Bol ends up somewhere between Thabeet, Oden, maybe Maker, best case his dad career-wise. Closer to the first 2. Do not want.

[sully00]

Bol Bol is such a project, let someone else draft him. You want to deal with 4 years of developing some guy that is 9 feet tall with 10 foot limbs and will just always, always, always be injured? And then he maybe is healthy and productive and then some other teams signs him during his RFA after you spent all that time developing him?

I've seen Rui Hachimura a few times the last month and he looks so **** good. I want this dude so bad and he's gotta be there at 14 at the very least. I was really high on Jontay Porter last year, too. If he's healthy at the combine I'm taking him too. If the Celtics end up with 3-4 picks in the first from 12-24 they need to get one of these guys.

FWIW, NbaDraft.net currently has Hachimura going at # 4, Porter at #21.

I guess this is a weird draft to rank. Tankathon has Rui at 17 and Porter at 12.

I think that is going to make this draft kind of fun because no two teams are going to have the same board. Guys with size that can play are going to be at a premium though. I think that teams that zero in on guys will try and move up and teams that see two or three options will be willing to slide back. While I don't like the talent in this draft I do like the ability for Ainge to move up in the draft if he likes someone as cheap roster spots will be attractive to teams looking more at FA than who they are picking at 7 or 8.

[mbsnmisc]

I'll go on record as saying Bol Bol ends up somewhere between Thabeet, Oden, maybe Maker, best case his dad career-wise. Closer to the first 2. Do not want.

I am not a college hoops guy anymore, so my opinion is based on historical precedent. I hate guys like Bamba, Thabeet, Maker and Bol. I call it "high butt syndrome" They cannot get down low enough to establish/hold position around the basket and their physiques do not lend themselves to being explosive. It is just a built-in prejudice.

I know he hurt his knee, but I do like Jontay Porter from Mizzou. He is a Soph, but he is 19 until November. He has a big body and a soft touch. He will (almost definitely) never approach Big Al status, but Horford could be a tremendous mentor. Just my $.02.

[djFan71]

I'll go on record as saying Bol Bol ends up somewhere between Thabeet, Oden, maybe Maker, best case his dad career-wise. Closer to the first 2. Do not want.

I am not a college hoops guy anymore, so my opinion is based on historical precedent. I hate guys like Bamba, Thabeet, Maker and Bol. I call it "high butt syndrome" They cannot get down low enough to establish/hold position around the basket and their physiques do not lend themselves to being explosive. It is just a built-in prejudice.

I know he hurt his knee, but I do like Jontay Porter from Mizzou. He is a Soph, but he is 19 until November. He has a big body and a soft touch. He will (almost definitely) never approach Big Al status, but Horford could be a tremendous mentor. Just my $.02.

Agree with everything in the first paragraph. I haven't really watched Bol play, it's just that bias I have against twigs. Never thought of the high butt, but it seems legit, what with physics and all.

Porter scares me due to his injury on top of his brother's injuries. But, I have no basis for that either.... Basically I'm scared of big guys that are injury risks or are super tall and skinny.

[Roddy]

If we go for a big, I wish it would be Bruno Fernando. Not sure he will be there in mid-round.
I see some Zo Mourning in this guy (I'm not saying he will be Zo of course).

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[mbsnmisc]

I'll go on record as saying Bol Bol ends up somewhere between Thabeet, Oden, maybe Maker, best case his dad career-wise. Closer to the first 2. Do not want.

I am not a college hoops guy anymore, so my opinion is based on historical precedent. I hate guys like Bamba, Thabeet, Maker and Bol. I call it "high butt syndrome" They cannot get down low enough to establish/hold position around the basket and their physiques do not lend themselves to being explosive. It is just a built-in prejudice.

I know he hurt his knee, but I do like Jontay Porter from Mizzou. He is a Soph, but he is 19 until November. He has a big body and a soft touch. He will (almost definitely) never approach Big Al status, but Horford could be a tremendous mentor. Just my $.02.

Agree with everything in the first paragraph. I haven't really watched Bol play, it's just that bias I have against twigs. Never thought of the high butt, but it seems legit, what with physics and all.

Porter scares me due to his injury on top of his brother's injuries. But, I have no basis for that either.... Basically I'm scared of big guys that are injury risks or are super tall and skinny.

Apparently their entire family are high-level competitive athletes. I saw a tweet (can't remember where) that listed the four kids injuries. I can't remember the entire rundown, but they all suffered major injuries. One of his sisters tore her ACL 5 times. I don't know if genetics play a role in those kind of injuries, but it was a crazy list.

I will look for the tweet.

Here is an article that talks about their injuries.

The Denver Nuggets selected Michael with the No. 14 selection in this summer’s draft but he’s not appeared in a game for the team since undergoing a second back surgery this fall.

Knee injuries are nothing new for the Porter family. Both of Porter’s older sisters, Bri and Cierra, saw their Mizzou playing careers cut short by knee injuries. Cierra would have been a senior on the current MU women’s team but decided this summer to end her playing career after struggling with a knee injury. Bri played her last season at Mizzou in 2016-17 after undergoing five ACL injuries in both high school and college.

[djFan71]

I am not a college hoops guy anymore, so my opinion is based on historical precedent. I hate guys like Bamba, Thabeet, Maker and Bol. I call it "high butt syndrome" They cannot get down low enough to establish/hold position around the basket and their physiques do not lend themselves to being explosive. It is just a built-in prejudice.

I know he hurt his knee, but I do like Jontay Porter from Mizzou. He is a Soph, but he is 19 until November. He has a big body and a soft touch. He will (almost definitely) never approach Big Al status, but Horford could be a tremendous mentor. Just my $.02.

Agree with everything in the first paragraph. I haven't really watched Bol play, it's just that bias I have against twigs. Never thought of the high butt, but it seems legit, what with physics and all.

Porter scares me due to his injury on top of his brother's injuries. But, I have no basis for that either.... Basically I'm scared of big guys that are injury risks or are super tall and skinny.

Apparently their entire family are high-level competitive athletes. I saw a tweet (can't remember where) that listed the four kids injuries. I can't remember the entire rundown, but they all suffered major injuries. One of his sisters tore her ACL 5 times. I don't know if genetics play a role in those kind of injuries, but it was a crazy list.

I will look for the tweet.

Here is an article that talks about their injuries.

The Denver Nuggets selected Michael with the No. 14 selection in this summer’s draft but he’s not appeared in a game for the team since undergoing a second back surgery this fall.

Knee injuries are nothing new for the Porter family. Both of Porter’s older sisters, Bri and Cierra, saw their Mizzou playing careers cut short by knee injuries. Cierra would have been a senior on the current MU women’s team but decided this summer to end her playing career after struggling with a knee injury. Bri played her last season at Mizzou in 2016-17 after undergoing five ACL injuries in both high school and college.

Wow, 5 ACL injuries. Dang. I knew the Michael part, but not the sisters, too. Geez, either tough luck, or they all push too hard, or genetics, or something. Doesn't give you a ton of confidence, though. Hopefully they both recover and have great careers. You can just never know.

[snowman]

I like Coby White, Jaxson Hayes, and Tre Jones. Also, that Memphis pick could coffer, they are only 2 losses out of the 9th pick. We also have a 2nd round pick this year unless we get up to the 25th pick in the first round.

[FlatearthZorro]

I still like Doumbaya with our 12-14 pick. I think he has huge potential. Depending on what happens with Kyrie/Terry and our PG position, you could easily look to consolidate the rest of the picks and look for a PG. We don't need another center/PF who can't shoot at all as I think Williams has a pretty decent potential and he's a freak athlete.

[Dogen]

If I have #23 at the end of the day, I'm using it on Markus Howard if he declares. Amazing player. But my first priority is Doumbouya, and if I had to combine picks to move up to get him, I would.

I am with you on Sekou Doumbouya. Low risk high reward if we can get him this years collection of picks.

Add me to the Doumbouya bandwagon. I like him, not in a "next Greek Freak" kind of way, but a "legitimate Pascal Siakam type" kind of way, which would be a nice player to have, especially if one or two of our swings could be moved in a trade this summer. If the C's can keep a higher pick, he'd be on my list, and if Danny ends up just keeping two lower firsts, I'd consider combining them for Sekou, depending on the picks and who is available.

[Dogen]

I still like Doumbaya with our 12-14 pick. I think he has huge potential. Depending on what happens with Kyrie/Terry and our PG position, you could easily look to consolidate the rest of the picks and look for a PG. We don't need another center/PF who can't shoot at all as I think Williams has a pretty decent potential and he's a freak athlete.

At the moment it looks like the Celtics will have the 14th pick. Sekou would be the pick if he's still there, IMHO, but I could see him going in the 7-12 range depending on the team picking. Even if the Celtics stand pat in trades, resign Kyrie but lose Theis and Rozier, I would be happy with a combination of internal development, health (Hayward), and the addition of Doumbouya and Tre Jones from the the 2019 draft.

This all depends on the trade developments though. If the AD trade falls through and Danny likes Doumbouya, I would consider packaging the 14th pick and the late 20's pick to get him. The team does not need three rookies, maybe two to replace outgoing players.

[Homerclease]

I would much rather have Naz Reid than Sekou. Reid has the skillset to be the next Al Horford

[Bill Lumbergh]

I don't know if he can do a single other thing, but I've liked Konate a lot strictly for his shot blocking ability. One of the best shot blockers I've ever seen. NbaDraft.net has him going in the second round. I'd take him way before I took Bol.

[big-shot-ROB]

Reid's defense and effort in general leaves a lot to desire. He is more Speights than Horford at this point.

Kabengele is a name you should pay attention to, from Florida St.

[Roddy]

I would much rather have Naz Reid than Sekou. Reid has the skillset to be the next Al Horford

Naz is more Nene than Horford to me. I'm not sure he will be a great fit here, too selfish to me.

[FlatearthZorro]

I would much rather have Naz Reid than Sekou. Reid has the skillset to be the next Al Horford

Reid and Doumboya seem very different. Sekou is a modern day 4, who can dribble and pass pretty well at 6'9, great athlete, Reid's more of a traditional big man. When I watched him I don't see any of Horfie in him.

I'd take Doumboya for his versatility. Feel like he will do very well in today's game and he's still very young. He will be 19 this year.

[Homerclease]

I would much rather have Naz Reid than Sekou. Reid has the skillset to be the next Al Horford

Naz is more Nene than Horford to me. I'm not sure he will be a great fit here, too selfish to me.

I don’t find him selfish at all. You can make the argument he’s the best big man passer in the entire draft tbh