Cameron Reddish

[Stillwater]

He’s the second or the third pick. And the #1 team will look at him

Doubtful unless they are terrible at scouting... Whatever scouts saw in this guy offensively in HS has not transferred even a little bit.
Maybe with the lack of other hype train prospects, somebody will be dumb enough to pick him as a long term project in hopes they can coach him up etc, but most teams want a little higher floor from a player with as little bb iq as he possesses.

[Coeur]

He’s the second or the third pick. And the #1 team will look at him

Doubtful unless they are terrible at scouting... Whatever scouts saw in this guy offensively in HS has not transferred even a little bit.
Maybe with the lack of other hype train prospects, somebody will be dumb enough to pick him as a long term project in hopes they can coach him up etc, but most teams want a little higher floor from a player with as little bb iq as he possesses.

I just can’t see picking another sg over reddish. He matches up well as a prospect against any of them. And that’s this draft is these 2’s and 3’s and I guess what they call 4’s

Barrett might be loved or hated by some of those teams. Reddish even now is liked more by some guys.


This site has sold my on Culver. He’s still behind reddish. It’s silly to to even bring up nas or romeo


It’s
Zion
—————
Barrett
Reddish
————-
Rui
KZ
Morant
Clarke
Bol bol
culver



I guess there’s that small chance that someone grabs Morant early. But he could just as easily go 7-10

[Stillwater]

He’s the second or the third pick. And the #1 team will look at him

Doubtful unless they are terrible at scouting... Whatever scouts saw in this guy offensively in HS has not transferred even a little bit.
Maybe with the lack of other hype train prospects, somebody will be dumb enough to pick him as a long term project in hopes they can coach him up etc, but most teams want a little higher floor from a player with as little bb iq as he possesses.

I just can’t see picking another sg over reddish. He matches up well as a prospect against any of them. And that’s this draft is these 2’s and 3’s and I guess what they call 4’s

Barrett might be loved or hated by some of those teams. Reddish even now is liked more by some guys.


This site has sold my on Culver. He’s still behind reddish. It’s silly to to even bring up nas or romeo


It’s
Zion
—————
Barrett
Reddish
————-
Rui
KZ
Morant
Clarke
Bol bol
culver



I guess there’s that small chance that someone grabs Morant early. But he could just as easily go 7-10

those pigeon holed reviews are useless when it comes to real scouting boards that don't become public.
Reddish is still riding the Duke hype train, and shouldn't even be in the top 5 on any teams WING board based on what he has done in college. Everything that puts him in the top ten still is only based on his development potential, and frankly the lack of BB IQ is a big roadblock for anyone wanting to pick him on physical upside.

[Coeur]

Doubtful unless they are terrible at scouting... Whatever scouts saw in this guy offensively in HS has not transferred even a little bit.
Maybe with the lack of other hype train prospects, somebody will be dumb enough to pick him as a long term project in hopes they can coach him up etc, but most teams want a little higher floor from a player with as little bb iq as he possesses.

I just can’t see picking another sg over reddish. He matches up well as a prospect against any of them. And that’s this draft is these 2’s and 3’s and I guess what they call 4’s

Barrett might be loved or hated by some of those teams. Reddish even now is liked more by some guys.


This site has sold my on Culver. He’s still behind reddish. It’s silly to to even bring up nas or romeo


It’s
Zion
—————
Barrett
Reddish
————-
Rui
KZ
Morant
Clarke
Bol bol
culver



I guess there’s that small chance that someone grabs Morant early. But he could just as easily go 7-10

those pigeon holed reviews are useless when it comes to real scouting boards that don't become public.
Reddish is still riding the Duke hype train, and shouldn't even be in the top 5 on any teams WING board based on what he has done in college. Everything that puts him in the top ten still is only based on his development potential, and frankly the lack of BB IQ is a big roadblock for anyone wanting to pick him on physical upside.

I think you’re right and I’m arguing the wrong thing to you. Maybe just to try to say you know that reddish has some traits that’s scouts don’t just like. They love and over rate the hell out of. Even a pessimist me gives him a pass as duke and think he becomes way better in the nba game. Maybe I’m wrong and he does fall 5-7. I just think they’ll over draft him

[Stillwater]

I just can’t see picking another sg over reddish. He matches up well as a prospect against any of them. And that’s this draft is these 2’s and 3’s and I guess what they call 4’s

Barrett might be loved or hated by some of those teams. Reddish even now is liked more by some guys.


This site has sold my on Culver. He’s still behind reddish. It’s silly to to even bring up nas or romeo


It’s
Zion
—————
Barrett
Reddish
————-
Rui
KZ
Morant
Clarke
Bol bol
culver



I guess there’s that small chance that someone grabs Morant early. But he could just as easily go 7-10

those pigeon holed reviews are useless when it comes to real scouting boards that don't become public.
Reddish is still riding the Duke hype train, and shouldn't even be in the top 5 on any teams WING board based on what he has done in college. Everything that puts him in the top ten still is only based on his development potential, and frankly the lack of BB IQ is a big roadblock for anyone wanting to pick him on physical upside.

I think you’re right and I’m arguing the wrong thing to you. Maybe just to try to say you know that reddish has some traits that’s scouts don’t just like. They love and over rate the hell out of. Even a pessimist me gives him a pass as duke and think he becomes way better in the nba game. Maybe I’m wrong and he does fall 5-7. I just think they’ll over draft him

Right if you want to try to predict where he will get drafted/ anyone's guess imo, but where he should be drafted given the expectations that go along with it in the higher spots, he should absolutely go 5 at the earliest and better off later where he isn't expected to do much for awhile, because it's clear to me he lacks the mental fortitude to overcome the stimulus of a bust label early on/.

[Najee12]

I am not overly concerned about his shooting numbers. Bradley Beal shot 31% from 3pt at Florida in conference play (granted he was a more polished scorer underneath the arc and drew more FTs)

A wing player touted for his scoring/scoring potential but is shooting .356 from the field for the season is a major concern, though. What is alarming is Cam Reddish doesn't really seem to have a feel for playing on offense. He's had trouble creating and identifying scoring chances that aren't catch-and-shoot jumpers (only 36.2 percent of his field goal attempts have been 2-point shots). Moreover, Reddish is shooting 36.9 percent inside the arc, averaging 1.6 two-point field goals per game.

Reddish lacks strength, explosion and touch, in addition to his up-and-down games. It's brutal to see him go 2-for-15 vs. N.C State, then score 23 the next game vs. North Carolina then go 2-for-11 against Syracuse. It's way too much projection needed to justify Reddish being a lottery pick at this moment.

[Najee12]

Great points.

What do you think about Cam in a Scottie Pippen type of role?

I saw Scottie Pippen's entire NBA career and there is no comparison to Pippen and Cam Reddish now. If you're looking for a contemporary comparison to Pippen, imagine Paul George with better ball-handling skill and (outside of this season) similar scoring clips but at better shooting percentages.

[ItsThatEasy]

Great points.

What do you think about Cam in a Scottie Pippen type of role?

I saw Scottie Pippen's entire NBA career and there is no comparison to Pippen and Cam Reddish now. If you're looking for a contemporary comparison to Pippen, imagine Paul George with better ball-handling skill and (outside of this season) similar scoring clips but at better shooting percentages.

Well yea, that post is from October, we've certainly seen a lot more of Cam since then.

[Stillwater]

I doubt too many of us that are paying attn. will have this guy in the top 10 on final big boards , but I know for a fact the lack of hype surrounding so many other better players than Reddish will keep him in the top 10 on every national media outlet in the world...pathetic really,but it is what it is.

[Duke4life831]

I would love to hear an argument for why he should even be a 1st round pick. Is size and inconsistent good shooting form enough now to get drafted in the 1st round?

Cam over the last 10 games:
13/4/1.5 on 32/27/71 shooting splits. He also has more than twice the amount of turnovers than assists in that time.

Also his impact on the defensive end has slipped. He isn't getting out on passing lanes anymore like he used to. He hasn't been bad defensively, just not the impact defender he was before.

[VanWest82]

I would love to hear an argument for why he should even be a 1st round pick. Is size and inconsistent good shooting form enough now to get drafted in the 1st round?

Cam over the last 10 games:
13/4/1.5 on 32/27/71 shooting splits. He also has more than twice the amount of turnovers than assists in that time.

Also his impact on the defensive end has slipped. He isn't getting out on passing lanes anymore like he used to. He hasn't been bad defensively, just not the impact defender he was before.

Defense is your answer. Some team will convince themselves that with NBA coaching and lot of hard work Cam can be a good C&S / 3+D guy. I think the reason his defense slipped is because he got promoted to number two option with Zion out, and stopped doing some of the things defensively that made him impactful earlier in the year.

For the record, I'd hesitate to take him too high but this draft is so weak that at some point you're picking players that you know have no chance at sticking in the league. Cam at least has a chance if he puts in the work.

[King Ken]

Cam really playing poorly, all he is doing is showing flashes, but I don't see the impact anymore. He looks bad

[916fan]

I would love to hear an argument for why he should even be a 1st round pick. Is size and inconsistent good shooting form enough now to get drafted in the 1st round?

Cam over the last 10 games:
13/4/1.5 on 32/27/71 shooting splits. He also has more than twice the amount of turnovers than assists in that time.

Also his impact on the defensive end has slipped. He isn't getting out on passing lanes anymore like he used to. He hasn't been bad defensively, just not the impact defender he was before.

I said it day 1... he looks like OG Anunoby but not as strong. He'll be a 1st round pick due to how high teams coveted him before Duke. That reputation will completely follow him into the NBA. He's a 6'8 lanky wing with solid shooting ability 32.7/75.9. His 3pt shooting is at 7.6 3pa, but the efficiency would probably go up if he takes less of them. He's got solid athleticism with tiny flashes of being an on-ball creator. All together, he's only 19 yearsold. His floor could legitimately be a 3&D SF which is really valuable in the NBA. I think teams will bank on his potential. I don't think he'll go top 10 though.

[Duke4life831]

I would love to hear an argument for why he should even be a 1st round pick. Is size and inconsistent good shooting form enough now to get drafted in the 1st round?

Cam over the last 10 games:
13/4/1.5 on 32/27/71 shooting splits. He also has more than twice the amount of turnovers than assists in that time.

Also his impact on the defensive end has slipped. He isn't getting out on passing lanes anymore like he used to. He hasn't been bad defensively, just not the impact defender he was before.

I said it day 1... he looks like OG Anunoby but not as strong. He'll be a 1st round pick due to how high teams coveted him before Duke. That reputation will completely follow him into the NBA. He's a 6'8 lanky wing with solid shooting ability 32.7/75.9. His 3pt shooting is at 7.6 3pa, but the efficiency would probably go up if he takes less of them. He's got solid athleticism with tiny flashes of being an on-ball creator. All together, he's only 19 yearsold. His floor could legitimately be a 3&D SF which is really valuable in the NBA. I think teams will bank on his potential. I don't think he'll go top 10 though.

A 3&D guy is no way his floor. His floor is being the next 2 years away from being a 2 years away guy. His floor is Joe Alexander. Get drafted high, clearly isn't ready for the NBA in year one. Gets sent down to the G League, all confidence is shot and he gets forgotten about.

I know many Duke fans (including myself) are happier seeing Jordan Goldwire out on the court over him at the moment.

[kobyz]

His floor is Mario Hezonja, his ceiling is Nicolas Batum

[Hoopz Afrik]

His floor is Mario Hezonja, his ceiling is Nicolas Batum

I can see this. Looks more like a second coming of Robert Covington if you ask me.

I still have faith that he'll improve but I'm a lot less optimistic than I used to be. Hopefully he has a huge tourney because Duke will have hard time without him at least being solid for them.

[Dr Positivity]

I would only take this big of a project high if he has freakish athleticism/physical tools. A player who sucked in college while not even being a super talent is the easiest bust call you can make. Said the same thing about Knox last year

[Duke4life831]

I would only take this big of a project high if he has freakish athleticism/physical tools. A player who sucked in college while not even being a super talent is the easiest bust call you can make. Said the same thing about Knox last year

Agreed. If he had TMac athleticism, in this draft I wouldn't mind my team taking him in the top 5. But that's not the case, he has good speed up and down the court, but is way below average when it comes to explosion. And that explosion should be a massive red flag with how bad he has been trying to score attacking the basket in college.

[doordoor123]

I would only take this big of a project high if he has freakish athleticism/physical tools. A player who sucked in college while not even being a super talent is the easiest bust call you can make. Said the same thing about Knox last year

Agreed. If he had TMac athleticism, in this draft I wouldn't mind my team taking him in the top 5. But that's not the case, he has good speed up and down the court, but is way below average when it comes to explosion. And that explosion should be a massive red flag with how bad he has been trying to score attacking the basket in college.

It’s weird, I’m not totally convinced he’s not explosive. I’ve seen flashes where he looks really explosive driving to the basket. I think it’s more that he doesn’t have a strong handle and is afraid to drive to the basket most of the time. I’m having such a hard time with Barrett and Little because they have these tiny flashes and they’re both good defenders with good size too. There must be a reason for both of these to do what they’re doing. Maybe they’re staying another year or trying to tank their draft value to go to a team they want to go to. It’s just so bizarre for two highly recruited players to take a back seat all year and have really weird lapses playing. It smells fishy because I’m not totally convinced either of them are playing the basketball they’re able to play.

[MemphisX]

I would love to hear an argument for why he should even be a 1st round pick. Is size and inconsistent good shooting form enough now to get drafted in the 1st round?

Cam over the last 10 games:
13/4/1.5 on 32/27/71 shooting splits. He also has more than twice the amount of turnovers than assists in that time.

Also his impact on the defensive end has slipped. He isn't getting out on passing lanes anymore like he used to. He hasn't been bad defensively, just not the impact defender he was before.

I definitely wouldn't want my team taking him in the lottery. End of the 1st...maybe. But he has been very bad for a very long time. His main appeal...being an initiator is non-existent. His shooting has been bad. So 3&D without the 3 and limited D. So basically you will be drafting a guy who looks like he can play but doesn't produce on any level.