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What should the Knicks approach be with Frank

Try to develop until prime years (~26) - essentially hold until it's 100% clear what he is
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Hold and try to develop until the end of rookie contract
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Hold until season's end/middle of next season to make a decision
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Look to trade him now for assets and/or a salary dump
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1681 » by 2010 » Fri Mar 8, 2019 3:14 am

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god shammgod wrote:the signs were there all year that they didn't love frank.....the signs are also there that they like mudiay. my question is, can we kill the sign maker ?

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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1682 » by nykballa2k4 » Fri Mar 8, 2019 3:16 am

2010 wrote:Kampuchea you are in a serious state of denial if you don’t see all the signs flashing in your eyes that the Knicks do not view this kid as a point guard at all, let alone the starting PG of the future. They give everyone a shot but him. Obviously Perry isn’t enamored and they are acting accordingly.


Will be interesting. The Phil bias is strong with the new regime. I think Spurs or Hornets are the most likely destinations for Frank.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1683 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Mar 8, 2019 3:19 am

If Dotson couldn't hit a three, He'd be on the outside too, but he's currently performing the role that Frank in all honestly can't take from him.

The guys they drafted and acquired are playing. That should be expected.
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Post#1684 » by Phish Tank » Fri Mar 8, 2019 3:19 am

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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1685 » by evevale » Fri Mar 8, 2019 3:23 am

If we trade him and he turns into another Ariza I'll be pretty annoyed not going to lie.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1686 » by DOT » Fri Mar 8, 2019 3:28 am

2010 wrote:
GONYK wrote:
god shammgod wrote:the signs were there all year that they didn't love frank.....the signs are also there that they like mudiay. my question is, can we kill the sign maker ?

Kinda says more about the evaluators than the players


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Which is why I give them leeway, cause that's true

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I'm fine with this. I mean, I'm a little miffed, but it's not completely unexpected. Plus, I know Perry isn't gonna just trade him for nothing, he'll only trade him for a good deal, and if he can't find one he'll keep him

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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1687 » by mpharris36 » Fri Mar 8, 2019 3:30 am

the chances you find a younger better defensive higher upside player in the mid to late 20's in the draft is slim to non...so whats the rush to trade him.

If its for a bigger piece and need the salary to match I would totally get that...for a simple swap of a late 1st rounder (just because you aren't the regime that drafted him). Is, for a lack of a better term, "stupid"
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1688 » by CDAZ » Fri Mar 8, 2019 3:36 am

Guess I'll never get to see teams completely shut down by Frank and Mitch. :noway: stupid flat soda
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Post#1689 » by K_ick_God » Fri Mar 8, 2019 3:37 am

Trade FiZdale instead.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1690 » by HEZI » Fri Mar 8, 2019 3:41 am

So if Frank has value like some think he does then we should be expecting to have 2 first round picks this summer, right? We are seeking a first so it shouldnt be a problem for us to get one. Hopefully that's the case on draft night

What's the salary difference between Frank's current and this year's pick in the 20 s?

I'm thinking the salary difference is good enough to cover a vet min signing or something along those lines
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1691 » by god shammgod » Fri Mar 8, 2019 3:55 am

HEZI wrote:So if Frank has value like some think he does then we should be expecting to have 2 first round picks this summer, right? We are seeking a first so it shouldnt be a problem for us to get one. Hopefully that's the case on draft night

What's the salary difference between Frank's current and this year's pick in the 20 s?


it may be that they want frank's 6 mill off the cap so they can give it to a role player next year to fill out the team. maybe they want a future pick instead so no money will be on the cap this summer. but that's even more reason they should have played him a lot. because he doesn't have much value currently, so maybe you can pump it up. i mean, did we really need to give trey burke minutes this year ? he was never coming back.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1692 » by HEZI » Fri Mar 8, 2019 4:00 am

god shammgod wrote:
HEZI wrote:So if Frank has value like some think he does then we should be expecting to have 2 first round picks this summer, right? We are seeking a first so it shouldnt be a problem for us to get one. Hopefully that's the case on draft night

What's the salary difference between Frank's current and this year's pick in the 20 s?


it may be that they want frank's 6 mill off the cap so they can give it to a role player next year to fill out the team. maybe they want a future pick instead so no money will be on the cap this summer. but that's even more reason they should have played him a lot. because he doesn't have much value currently, so maybe you can pump it up. i mean, did we really need to give trey burke minutes this year ? he was never coming back.


I dont think giving him more playing time was gonna pump up his value. He had more value before stepping foot on an NBA court than he does after 2 years in the league.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1693 » by robillionaire » Fri Mar 8, 2019 4:11 am

Every player connected to Phil is out of here. Frank is gone. Writing has been on the wall. I hope he turns into a good player wherever he lands
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1694 » by NoLayupRule » Fri Mar 8, 2019 4:38 am

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Post#1695 » by Sark » Fri Mar 8, 2019 4:44 am

god shammgod wrote:the signs were there all year that they didn't love frank.....the signs are also there that they like mudiay. my question is, can we kill the sign maker ?


The signs were there last year. They signed what, 4 point guards right after drafting him?
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1696 » by Context » Fri Mar 8, 2019 4:48 am

one thing we all can agree on: finding out where we pick in the draft cant get here soon enough
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1697 » by HerSports85 » Fri Mar 8, 2019 4:49 am

I’ll burn all this **** down :nonono:

How don’t they see the defensive potential of Mitch + Frank.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1698 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Mar 8, 2019 5:23 am

Kampuchea wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Berman?


And people act like this is real news?

How many times do people need to be lied to before they get it?

Always bothers me that people are so simple and will just get in line and fall for it again like mindless sheep.


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Post#1699 » by Dantares » Fri Mar 8, 2019 5:27 am



If he can just become an average offensive player and keep playing defense like this then damn frank would be such an impact player.
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Re: Knicks plan on exploring trade scenes for Frank Ntilikina 

Post#1700 » by LeStud » Fri Mar 8, 2019 6:10 am

Giving up on Frank? Nah, this is the start of going all in after KD and company.

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