Political Roundtable Part XXV

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Back to Manafort, turns-out that Manafort held the line, he did not flip at all and provided Mueller with zippo. Mueller and Stone are keeping Trump behind a firewall, the wild card is what information Rick Gates and Flynn knew and were able to share with Mueller.

And what was "allegedly" picked up by foreign intelligence intercepts.

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Months old but relevant.

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Bu bu bu Pharma companies!

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Paul Manafort get sentenced to 4 YEARS when the sentencing guidelines indicate 19-24, White Privilege, White Collar Justice from a biased Republican judge

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[Ruzious]

SD, where did you get that last post on Biden from, the KKK talking points for morons? KKKTPFM just picks and chooses random irrelevant facts that any moron could do to back any idiotic view. Combine with 39 shaking head emoticons. Do you really not see the lameness?

Here's a haiku.

I'm an SD post.
Random irrellevant facts.
Give me attention!!!

[dobrojim]

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Me I don't trust religion especially where it intersects with politics. Any sect that believes they don't really have to suffer consequences here on earth --because they are select and chosen and due their reward after death-- is a risk to me of making some decisions that don't benefit those that hold their same beliefs. Fundamentalists of any stripe, Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Wiccan, Spaghetti Monster, even fundamentalist Atheists-- they are all suspect to me. And yeah significant interests from any industry corporation religion or foreign country having significant interests and undue unregulated control or power over our governing body or our media, does not seem to benefit democracy and the interests of the little guy.

I've long felt, as many others probably do as well, that the essence of the isreali-palestinian problem
arises from the simple fact that both groups believe God says 'this land is your land'.

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[dckingsfan]

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I guess this is largely symbolic. I think if they really wanted to do something - the would have broken out the pieces and parts and let the debates begin.

But at least they are opening the dialog.

[I_Like_Dirt]

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I guess this is largely symbolic. I think if they really wanted to do something - the would have broken out the pieces and parts and let the debates begin.

But at least they are opening the dialog.

Breaking it into pieces and parts would have been largely symbolic, too. Nothing big or small like this is getting past the senate anyway, and small parts is less symbolic and less likely to push debate. That said, we already know how the debates will go already, I suppose. This is the kind of action I wish/hope they'll actually take should they ever have an opportunity to legitimately do something again. It's always easier to get representatives to vote together when it has no chance of changing anything anyway and you're just mocking the other guys. When your actions start having consequences that you will have to own, then the internal disagreements tend to start. We saw that in full force with the Trump Republican controlled house and senate. Trump basically waited for the Democrats to take the house so that everyone could once again band together to blame the Democrats.

[Pointgod]

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I guess this is largely symbolic. I think if they really wanted to do something - the would have broken out the pieces and parts and let the debates begin.

But at least they are opening the dialog.

Breaking it into pieces and parts would have been largely symbolic, too. Nothing big or small like this is getting past the senate anyway, and small parts is less symbolic and less likely to push debate. That said, we already know how the debates will go already, I suppose. This is the kind of action I wish/hope they'll actually take should they ever have an opportunity to legitimately do something again. It's always easier to get representatives to vote together when it has no chance of changing anything anyway and you're just mocking the other guys. When your actions start having consequences that you will have to own, then the internal disagreements tend to start. We saw that in full force with the Trump Republican controlled house and senate. Trump basically waited for the Democrats to take the house so that everyone could once again band together to blame the Democrats.

Well said. Thank you for saving me the time writing this. The problem like 90% of problems in Congress is the Mitch McConnell and his craven group of goons. There’s no going forward on any policy because Republicans are complete idiots that only know how to be anarchists. You need to judge Democrats on what they do or don’t get done when they control both houses

[TGW]

Pedo Joe thinks he's going to get the black vote, but once this goes mainstream, that's his racist ass:

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Pedo Joe thinks he's going to get the black vote, but once this goes mainstream, that's his racist ass:

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So an honest question: Obviously, its early but Which candidate do you see positioned to get the black vote?

Edit: Besides Bernie.

[dckingsfan]

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I guess this is largely symbolic. I think if they really wanted to do something - the would have broken out the pieces and parts and let the debates begin.

But at least they are opening the dialog.

Breaking it into pieces and parts would have been largely symbolic, too. Nothing big or small like this is getting past the senate anyway, and small parts is less symbolic and less likely to push debate. That said, we already know how the debates will go already, I suppose. This is the kind of action I wish/hope they'll actually take should they ever have an opportunity to legitimately do something again. It's always easier to get representatives to vote together when it has no chance of changing anything anyway and you're just mocking the other guys. When your actions start having consequences that you will have to own, then the internal disagreements tend to start. We saw that in full force with the Trump Republican controlled house and senate. Trump basically waited for the Democrats to take the house so that everyone could once again band together to blame the Democrats.

Well said. Thank you for saving me the time writing this. The problem like 90% of problems in Congress is the Mitch McConnell and his craven group of goons. There’s no going forward on any policy because Republicans are complete idiots that only know how to be anarchists. You need to judge Democrats on what they do or don’t get done when they control both houses

So, we should only judge Rs by what they do or don't get done when they control both houses? I have no interest in letting either side off the hook.

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Breaking it into pieces and parts would have been largely symbolic, too. Nothing big or small like this is getting past the senate anyway, and small parts is less symbolic and less likely to push debate. That said, we already know how the debates will go already, I suppose. This is the kind of action I wish/hope they'll actually take should they ever have an opportunity to legitimately do something again. It's always easier to get representatives to vote together when it has no chance of changing anything anyway and you're just mocking the other guys. When your actions start having consequences that you will have to own, then the internal disagreements tend to start. We saw that in full force with the Trump Republican controlled house and senate. Trump basically waited for the Democrats to take the house so that everyone could once again band together to blame the Democrats.

Well said. Thank you for saving me the time writing this. The problem like 90% of problems in Congress is the Mitch McConnell and his craven group of goons. There’s no going forward on any policy because Republicans are complete idiots that only know how to be anarchists. You need to judge Democrats on what they do or don’t get done when they control both houses

So, we should only judge Rs by what they do or don't get done when they control both houses? I have no interest in letting either side off the hook.

I think it’s fair to judge the Republicans of them have control of Congress for 8 years and 2 years of all three houses. They’ve shown that they’re dysfunctional idiots that can’t hold to campaign promises even when they have no opposition. You seem to assume that Republicans will ever negotiate on good faith, spoiler alert they won’t. So you want to hold the Democrats to standards that don’t make sense. Here’s Mitch McConnell’s response to taking up the

When asked at a news conference why he wasn’t bringing the House electoral reform bill to the Senate floor, McConnell said, with a grin, "Because I get to decide what we vote on.”

You fail to acknowledge the pure politics of the Senate not taking up the bill because Republicans know that if more people can vote they lose elections. So what should Nancy Pelosi should have done that would get Mitch McConnell to take a vote on the legislation?

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Pedo Joe thinks he's going to get the black vote, but once this goes mainstream, that's his racist ass:

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So an honest question: Obviously, its early but Which candidate do you see positioned to get the black vote?

Edit: Besides Bernie.

I don’t know why you bother engaging with TGW. Those comments were from 45 years ago. I don’t know what the hell point he’s s trying to prove.

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oh my god you guys...as you know ive been posting much less but this is so beautiful and loving and caring of our GOAT modern president that i had to share. He's so dreamy.

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[dckingsfan]

Well said. Thank you for saving me the time writing this. The problem like 90% of problems in Congress is the Mitch McConnell and his craven group of goons. There’s no going forward on any policy because Republicans are complete idiots that only know how to be anarchists. You need to judge Democrats on what they do or don’t get done when they control both houses

So, we should only judge Rs by what they do or don't get done when they control both houses? I have no interest in letting either side off the hook.

I think it’s fair to judge the Republicans of them have control of Congress for 8 years and 2 years of all three houses. They’ve shown that they’re dysfunctional idiots that can’t hold to campaign promises even when they have no opposition. You seem to assume that Republicans will ever negotiate on good faith, spoiler alert they won’t. So you want to hold the Democrats to standards that don’t make sense. Here’s Mitch McConnell’s response to taking up the

When asked at a news conference why he wasn’t bringing the House electoral reform bill to the Senate floor, McConnell said, with a grin, "Because I get to decide what we vote on.”

You fail to acknowledge the pure politics of the Senate not taking up the bill because Republicans know that if more people can vote they lose elections. So what should Nancy Pelosi should have done that would get Mitch McConnell to take a vote on the legislation?

First, I like Nancy Pelosi - she has done a really good job holding the house together especially with their recent disfunction and the continuing resolution. I think that when it comes to legislation that can actually pass, she does indeed work on specific proposals.

My point is that she didn't do that in this case - this piece of legislation was only a political tool - it wasn't any legislation that they thought they should could get through - and that is disappointing. It (most likely) means that there wasn't a single item on that list that the Rs in the Senate would be willing to take up - that doesn't disappoint you?

I also judge both parties and how they act as the minority party. Your post implied you wouldn't do that - evil Rs, therefore Ds get a pass (like the really bad GND) - I can't go there with you and give them a free pass.

Did the Rs whiff the first two years of this Administration - yup, need to go.

My two cents...

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