Mavs & Cavs Draft Pick Watch

Post #381 » by **Atlanta Hawk Fan** » Thu Mar 7, 2019 4:21 pm

Bob8 wrote:
kg01 wrote:Mavs'll be about the same next year as they are this year. Porzingis won't be effective from the start. Will probably miss several games due to "load maint.", etc. I won't assume he'll get hurt again but it's not a stretch to suggest that he may. History tells us he will.

Seriously doubt they add major pieces in free agency. Despite having lots of advantages, nice weather, no state tax, etc., they have struggled in free agency just as we have. Even more so, when you consider they've had an all-time great on their roster and have relatively recently won a title.

And I think it's too early to comment on whether or not Luka will be a free agent draw. I tend to lean 'probably not'. The notion that he's 'made guys expendable' rather than 'made them better' is something to consider. Similarly, I'm not sure Harden is a draw either.

It's not automatic that the KP/Donc combo will set the world on fire. Looks great on paper and nba2k tho.

I’m optimistic for next season, but I agree anything is possible. There’s an aspect you’re missing though. What happens if they get top4 pick? Zion, game changer, especially if they trade him. They will probably try to trade other picks too, not that much of a value as Zion, but they probably could make an interesting package. Bottom line is, Mavs getting the pick, could be much better team than Mavs without the pick.

I definitely worry about the Mavs taking a huge leap forward next year. I'll definitely take the pick this season if we can get it.

lethalweapon3 · Post #382 » by **lethalweapon3** » Thu Mar 7, 2019 10:17 pm

HAWKS LOTTERY "TRAGIC" #: 9

CAVSPICK BOTTOM-10 TRAGIC #: 4

MAVSPICK NOT-BOTTOM-5 MAGIC #: 12

~lw3

King Ken · Post #383 » by **King Ken** » Thu Mar 7, 2019 11:14 pm

kg01 wrote:Mavs'll be about the same next year as they are this year. Porzingis won't be effective from the start. Will probably miss several games due to "load maint.", etc. I won't assume he'll get hurt again but it's not a stretch to suggest that he may. History tells us he will.

Seriously doubt they add major pieces in free agency. Despite having lots of advantages, nice weather, no state tax, etc., they have struggled in free agency just as we have. Even more so, when you consider they've had an all-time great on their roster and have relatively recently won a title.

And I think it's too early to comment on whether or not Luka will be a free agent draw. I tend to lean 'probably not'. The notion that he's 'made guys expendable' rather than 'made them better' is something to consider. Similarly, I'm not sure Harden is a draw either.

It's not automatic that the KP/Donc combo will set the world on fire. Looks great on paper and nba2k tho.

I agree. They aren't going to sign anyone of significance. They will be a lottery team again in the west. If they were in the east, they would be a lock for the 7th or 8th seed. Not to mention, KP hasn't been healthy much.
That said, their pick this year is much much better.

Spud2nique · Post #384 » by **Spud2nique** » Fri Mar 8, 2019 2:53 am

For the future, can we just make a deal with no top 5 or 10 restrictions. I mean, I’m paying way more attention to the Mavs than I have for the last 10 years combined. :roll:

Ok 20.

I mean having to follow that Minny pick from the Payne trade that year then the Nets JJ pick didn’t convert that one year even after getting off to a bad start. Then the Wolves pick again last year and the Korver Cavs trade and now the Mavs. Seriously no protections for a year.

High 5 · Post #385 » by **High 5** » Fri Mar 8, 2019 5:15 am

A top 7 or 8 pick from them this season would be great, but spreading our picks out a bit and getting 10-14 next season wouldn't be too bad. I'm not sweating it.

D21 · Post #386 » by **D21** » Fri Mar 8, 2019 8:31 am

I just hope that our management won't let our kids win too much games and allow DAL to finish with lowest record than us, with more chance to get a top4 pick at the lottery... It would be embarrassing to see another team being better at tanking/rebuilding especially when there's a traded protected pick in the middle of this case... Time for management to be smarter than the other ones !

And don't forget that MEM has all the reasons to tank to increase their chances to keep their pick (top8 protected, goes to BOS if 9th or higher)

Bob8 · Post #387 » by **Bob8** » Fri Mar 8, 2019 9:08 am

D21 wrote:I just hope that our management won't let our kids win too much games and allow DAL to finish with lowest record than us, with more chance to get a top4 pick at the lottery... It would be embarrassing to see another team being better at tanking/rebuilding especially when there's a traded protected pick in the middle of this case... Time for management to be smarter than the other ones !

And don't forget that MEM has all the reasons to tank to increase their chances to keep their pick (top8 protected, goes to BOS if 9th or higher)

The best thing about Mavs tanking is, that they really don’t have almost anybody to play with. They traded 3 starters in KP trade, who is not playing, only Tim is getting playing time. Then they traded Barnes for more or less nothing but cap space. If you add Barea’s injury and must minutes for Dirk, who cannot even move anymore, you get perfect tanking team. Memphis beat them by 30 in Dallas and are 2:0 against Mavs. Washington has one of the easiest schedules.

Post #388 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Mar 8, 2019 2:28 pm

It seems widely accepted Mavs are intentionally losing at this point. With only 26 16 games left, I'm on board with us doing the same.

"I think that they're low-key tanking," ESPN's Brian Windhorst said on The Jump. "And, by the way, I don't blame them."

Watch on YouTube

Considering the Mavs have top-five protection on the first-rounder they owe the Atlanta Hawks, maybe a bloated loss column isn't as bad as it seems.

Bleacher Report

Spud2nique · Post #389 » by **Spud2nique** » Fri Mar 8, 2019 3:53 pm

We are 6 games ahead of the the Mavs with 16 to play for us. Grizz are the team in the middle of us. 2 games ahead of the Mavs and 4 games behind us.

It’s hard to make up 6 games in the standings in 16 games. Having said that, I would be surprised to see Trae catch the flu.

7. Mavs 21.5

6. Grizz 23.5

5. Hawks 27.5

Note: Jrue Holiday out for 7-10 days. This is huge for us hosting them on Sunday. With all the AD resting, we could possibly win this game..

Post #390 » by **ATL Boy** » Fri Mar 8, 2019 5:38 pm

Mavs are beating their chest at that max slot but we've seen the salary cap story before -- it means unless you do something with it. I don't see any massive FA going to Dallas, Cuban's been trying and failing to get the big fish in FA for years.

Spud2nique · Post #391 » by **Spud2nique** » Sat Mar 9, 2019 2:18 am

Magic 111
Mavs 106

Sole possession of 7th worst if the Wiz can hang on vs the Hornets, currently up 2.

Bob8 · Post #392 » by **Bob8** » Sat Mar 9, 2019 2:32 am

Wiz have lost, but I don’t believe that they’re really in play with Mavs, because they have 5th easiest schedule. Memphis vs. Utah could be huge though, but it’s a long way to go there.

personanongrata · Post #393 » by **personanongrata** » Sat Mar 9, 2019 3:39 am

Memphis wins again, they are playing excellent defense, not generally the sign of a team mailing it in. Looks like Mavs will end up 6th. There is going to be some hand-wringing on draft night, for sure.

saloonyk8 · Post #394 » by **saloonyk8** » Sat Mar 9, 2019 4:35 am

Jamaaliver wrote:It seems widely accepted Mavs are intentionally losing at this point. With only 26 16 games left, I'm on board with us doing the same.

"I think that they're low-key tanking," ESPN's Brian Windhorst said on The Jump. "And, by the way, I don't blame them."

Watch on YouTube

Considering the Mavs have top-five protection on the first-rounder they owe the Atlanta Hawks, maybe a bloated loss column isn't as bad as it seems.
Bleacher Report

I been okay with losing since the season started! I want Zion or Barrett

Post #395 » by **HMFFL** » Sat Mar 9, 2019 5:03 am

Memphis won.
No help anywhere else.

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atlantabbq99 · Post #396 » by **atlantabbq99** » Sat Mar 9, 2019 9:10 am

HMFFL wrote:Memphis won.
No help anywhere else.

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Mavs now unofficially at #6 (well just in regards to wins are concern)

atlantabbq99 · Post #397 » by **atlantabbq99** » Sat Mar 9, 2019 9:37 am

I keep thinking about the Mavs tanking and how smart of a move that is.

Pros: Mavs get 1-5

Cons: Mavs lose #6

And why would Mavs care if they lost #6 or #14, they made the trade, so they have to lose it anyway, and they wouldn't care if they lost a high pick to the Hawks, because Atlanta is not a rival team anyway.

personanongrata · Post #398 » by **personanongrata** » Sat Mar 9, 2019 1:30 pm

I just hope in the future Schlenk fights a little harder on his trades. Anything above top 2 protected should have been a deal breaker. They really wanted Luka, I guarantee they would have caved at the last minute.

~Wretch~ · Post #399 » by **~Wretch~** » Sat Mar 9, 2019 3:39 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:It seems widely accepted Mavs are intentionally losing at this point. With only 26 16 games left, I'm on board with us doing the same.

Over the years I have been very vocal about making the distinction between tanking and rebuilding. So, I feel obligated to offer a disclaimer that I am back-sliding a bit. ...but yeah man. IT. IS. TIME. TO. TZZZZANK. We need to tank and hold the line.

I have no idea how I'm gonna make it to May... And lottery night?

I honestly care less about where the pick ends up...more about not having to do this again next year.

Spud2nique · Post #400 » by **Spud2nique** » Sat Mar 9, 2019 4:06 pm

~Wretch~ wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:It seems widely accepted Mavs are intentionally losing at this point. With only 26 16 games left, I'm on board with us doing the same.

Over the years I have been very vocal about making the distinction between tanking and rebuilding. So, I feel obligated to offer a disclaimer that I am back-sliding a bit. ...but yeah man. IT. IS. TIME. TO. TZZZZANK. We need to tank and hold the line.

I have no idea how I'm gonna make it to May... And lottery night? I honestly care less about where the pick ends up...more about not having to do this again next year.

Agreed. It’s like a chore. It’s always in the back of my mind until it’s over. Worst thing is I have no control over it. :cry:

Please just let the pick convert and less enjoy a no other team watching..Hawk only tank free 2019-20!