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Post#1081 » by Jaqua92 » Thu Mar 7, 2019 5:41 am

I didn't see pretty most of this game.

can someone clarify if Gordon was the primary ball-handler off the bench?

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Post#1082 » by keevsnick1 » Thu Mar 7, 2019 5:50 am

Jaqua92 wrote:I didn't see pretty most of this game.

can someone clarify if Gordon was the primary ball-handler off the bench?

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Ya a majority of the time. Still had some overly passive moments where he passed when he could have attacked. I didn't think he looked as fluid as he did yesterday either. But hit the game winner and facilitatetd well.
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Post#1083 » by Froob » Thu Mar 7, 2019 6:06 am

Worst contract in the league? :lol:
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Post#1084 » by GoGreen » Thu Mar 7, 2019 6:14 am

Is it just me, or is Hayward looking a LOT faster?
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Post#1085 » by KGtabake » Thu Mar 7, 2019 12:26 pm

After i posted he's overpaid, he comes out with 33pts in one game and a game winner on the next one lol
I'll keep saying he's overpaid and he will finish with the player of the month award :lol:
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Post#1086 » by GregB » Thu Mar 7, 2019 1:30 pm

GoGreen wrote:Is it just me, or is Hayward looking a LOT faster?


He certainly looks like he is getting there. I am sure he is still having some bad days with soreness. But it is glad to see the progress.
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Post#1087 » by GuyClinch » Thu Mar 7, 2019 3:51 pm

Hayward has some bounce in his step again. Good Gordon - is a very good NBA player. Team should start him. Guy who can get 30 off the bench can score 40+ sometimes when they start. It's much better for your timing when you get the start. Stevens had it right early season - but he should have waited till later to go with the Brown at 2 and Gordon at 3 lineup. If you want a super scorer off the bench - both Tatum and Morris would work - as those guys aren't really team friendly passers. They look for their own shot.
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Post#1088 » by cloverleaf » Fri Mar 8, 2019 5:12 am

GuyClinch wrote:Hayward has some bounce in his step again. Good Gordon - is a very good NBA player. Team should start him. Guy who can get 30 off the bench can score 40+ sometimes when they start. It's much better for your timing when you get the start. Stevens had it right early season - but he should have waited till later to go with the Brown at 2 and Gordon at 3 lineup. If you want a super scorer off the bench - both Tatum and Morris would work - as those guys aren't really team friendly passers. They look for their own shot.


None of JB, MM or JT pass to teammates for assists much, but JT is at least better than the other two on that.
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Post#1089 » by djFan71 » Fri Mar 8, 2019 5:13 am

KGtabake wrote:After i posted he's overpaid, he comes out with 33pts in one game and a game winner on the next one lol
I'll keep saying he's overpaid and he will finish with the player of the month award :lol:

Throw in some stuff about lack of aggressiveness and coach's pet too, please. :)
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Post#1090 » by celticgreenie » Sat Mar 9, 2019 2:01 pm

Maybe this is why Cave was never concerned about Hayward:
In Boston’s 33-point win over Golden State, Hayward came off the bench and scored 30 points. He followed that up less than 24 hours later with the winning shot in a 111-109 victory over the Kings. Let’s just say Hayward’s play the past couple of games has caught the attention of many. “That extra gear he was looking for … I think he found it,” one advance scout texted NBC Sports Boston. – via Yahoo! Sports
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Post#1091 » by GuyClinch » Sat Mar 9, 2019 9:48 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
GuyClinch wrote:Hayward has some bounce in his step again. Good Gordon - is a very good NBA player. Team should start him. Guy who can get 30 off the bench can score 40+ sometimes when they start. It's much better for your timing when you get the start. Stevens had it right early season - but he should have waited till later to go with the Brown at 2 and Gordon at 3 lineup. If you want a super scorer off the bench - both Tatum and Morris would work - as those guys aren't really team friendly passers. They look for their own shot.


None of JB, MM or JT pass to teammates for assists much, but JT is at least better than the other two on that.


If Hayward reverts to all-star form - someone needs to go to the bench. Dumb to play your 2nd best player off the bench. If you swap Tatum for Hayward you don't lose toughness and strength. You do if you bench Morris. Both are 3s so if Hayward earns those job he should get it.

There is no winning for Brad here. But in my view unless we get peak Hayward we have no chance this year at championship. OTOH if we do get peak Hayward we absolutely have a chance. Not next year - THIS year.

So coaching job has to be first about getting best out of Hayward and Kyrie.
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Post#1092 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Mar 9, 2019 10:45 pm

GoGreen wrote:Is it just me, or is Hayward looking a LOT faster?

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Post#1093 » by 31to6 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:06 am

Hayward looks ready to go, basically. If we clear out the wings this summer he can fill a much bigger role (the one we originally signed him for).
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Post#1094 » by 87rottweiler » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:13 am

Want to see the 2-man game between Gordo and Kyrie developed and used heavily leading into, and throughout the playoffs.

Gordo pick and pop / roll / read and react passing is elite, if it’s Horford receiving the extra pass then good luck to any defence


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Post#1095 » by LarryBirdsFingr » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:43 am

87rottweiler wrote:Want to see the 2-man game between Gordo and Kyrie developed and used heavily leading into, and throughout the playoffs.

Gordo pick and pop / roll / read and react passing is elite, if it’s Horford receiving the extra pass then good luck to any defence


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Post#1096 » by Diamantidis » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:45 am

Its time for Hayward to start. The problem is that he should take Tatum's spot and we know that this wont happen.
But it would be the best for the team right now. Hayward, Tatum and Kyrie wont work for long periods and also we would miss Morris' toughness.
Anyway, whether Hayward starts or not, I d like to see him taking more shots. He's 6th in shots per game, at only 8.9 per game. He's also 6th in usage.
Playoffs are coming, we need our best players to have the most usage. Hayward should be at least 3rd in usage and shots/game.
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Post#1097 » by FlatearthZorro » Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:11 am

He looks way more comfortable. Hope this continues. 15 more games should help him even further.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#1098 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:02 am

Celtics now have a 24-4 (85.7%) W-L record when Gordon makes at least FOUR field goals in a game. It's only natural to conclude that if he makes EIGHT field goals in every game in the playoffs, we have a 171.4% chance of winning. It's basic math.
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Post#1099 » by yazfan » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:04 pm

Diamantidis wrote:Its time for Hayward to start. The problem is that he should take Tatum's spot and we know that this wont happen.
But it would be the best for the team right now. Hayward, Tatum and Kyrie wont work for long periods and also we would miss Morris' toughness.
Anyway, whether Hayward starts or not, I d like to see him taking more shots. He's 6th in shots per game, at only 8.9 per game. He's also 6th in usage.
Playoffs are coming, we need our best players to have the most usage. Hayward should be at least 3rd in usage and shots/game.



Agree.

He is our most expensive Max player who I agree needs to be in top 3 in shots.

Tatum is an up and comer, He is not as good as Hayward and neither is Brown.

ABC coverage last night said Tatum and Brown think they are better than Hayward...again go to the tape.

Hell , I'm better than Lebron if he had a broken leg...... welll... maybe ;)
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Post#1100 » by cloverleaf » Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:34 pm

Diamantidis wrote:Its time for Hayward to start. The problem is that he should take Tatum's spot and we know that this wont happen.
But it would be the best for the team right now. Hayward, Tatum and Kyrie wont work for long periods and also we would miss Morris' toughness.
Anyway, whether Hayward starts or not, I d like to see him taking more shots. He's 6th in shots per game, at only 8.9 per game. He's also 6th in usage.
Playoffs are coming, we need our best players to have the most usage. Hayward should be at least 3rd in usage and shots/game.


This is obviously a fragile team from a chemistry standpoint, with Hayward being as fragile as any of them in terms of his own mindset. So I'd keep him right where he is, at least as long as this is working, but up his minutes and usage and have him in closing out tight games. That means he'll be playing half the time with Kyrie anyway (on those nights when Kyrie plays). But he should be grooving into a sense of confidence and being able to dominate again when he's out there.

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