WWE General Discussion II

[Stanford]

Looks like she's having the time of her life being a heel now

Uh, that's exactly what being a babyface looks like.

She trashed talked poutine and the leafs after playfully taking suggestions for things she should trash. She literally said "I'm not supposed to be nice to you." Good grief.

And poutine isn't even a source of pride in Toronto. It's a French Canadian dish. Hell, Jamaican food would have been more relevant.

[bestnamezRtaken]

People who are on the Ronda bandwagon after this "heel turn" praising her....

Oh.
My.
God.

[Spens1]

I'm not a huge fan of the WCW level of breaking kafaybe. Like at least if you're going to do it, make it subtle. We know its fake but at least let us suspend our belief for a little while without throwing it in our face.

Punk's work over the summer of punk was great, but the worst thing out of it was the imitation still lives on to this day and often quiet badly.

I mean I will say though, Ronda needed to turn heel, there was no point in having her and Becky in a blood feud when no one is booing Lynch in this feud. I will say though, at this point it feels like they're trying to rehash the Daniel Bryan, Batista and Orton.

[Stanford]

I'm not a huge fan of the WCW level of breaking kafaybe.

I'm with you. This is reaching Russo-levels.

[Spens1]

I'm not a huge fan of the WCW level of breaking kafaybe.

I'm with you. This is reaching Russo-levels.

Yeah it feels like he's booking some of it at points. Next week someone's going to come out and say the Universal championship doesn't mean anything.

It doesn't really benefit anyone and only makes the programming look less important

[Scott Hall]

WWE reportedly considering taking Renee Young off commentary...

Jim Ross has reportedly signed with AEW for 3 years for 1 mill per

[Spens1]

WWE reportedly considering taking Renee Young off commentary...

Jim Ross has reportedly signed with AEW for 3 years for 1 mill per

That better not be a commentary role. JR today is probably amongst the worst commentators, hopefully he is mainly backstage cause that would make AEW nearly unwatchable (commentary does play a huge part in an overall product after all).

[Scott Hall]

WWE reportedly considering taking Renee Young off commentary...

Jim Ross has reportedly signed with AEW for 3 years for 1 mill per

That better not be a commentary role. JR today is probably amongst the worst commentators, hopefully he is mainly backstage cause that would make AEW nearly unwatchable (commentary does play a huge part in an overall product after all).

Who's better than JR thats out there? This is the worst era ever for commentary. I think once JR settles in and
familiarizes himself with the talent he won't have any botches.

[jakecronus8]

Read on Twitter

[Stanford]

Haha, I love when people on twitter try to get themselves over by pretending that the "IWC" is a single entity that necessarily has to be consistent on every argument and sub-argument.

A huge, amorphous unit of people who are related only in the sense that they talk about wrestling on the internet can't be consistent on the topic of keeping kayfabe. Wow, no ****. That's not **** insight.

[iMoreland]

Luke Harper returned to a house show last night. You know what that means.

[bestnamezRtaken]

People still think Ronda is doing great.

[iMoreland]

People still think Ronda is doing great.

She is

[Stanford]

She definitely is

[Scott Hall]

Yeah she's been amazing just needs to slow down on the promos

[jakecronus8]

Your job as a worker is to get a reaction from people. Ronda is doing amazing.

ETA: why I consider Cena the best ever. 100% of the audience is invested in him 100% of the time.

[Scott Hall]

Your job as a worker is to get a reaction from people. Ronda is doing amazing.

ETA: why I consider Cena the best ever. 100% of the audience is invested in him 100% of the time.

Best ever?

A lot of Cenas reaction for years was "X-Pac Heat" a lot of fans from the Attitude Era checked out when he
started being shoved down peoples throats.

To his credit though he's one of the best promos ever and he's grown in the ring to have some great matches
the last several years.

[jakecronus8]

Your job as a worker is to get a reaction from people. Ronda is doing amazing.

ETA: why I consider Cena the best ever. 100% of the audience is invested in him 100% of the time.

Best ever?

A lot of Cenas reaction for years was "X-Pac Heat" a lot of fans from the Attitude Era checked out when he
started being shoved down peoples throats.

To his credit though he's one of the best promos ever and he's grown in the ring to have some great matches
the last several years.

Disagree on the "go away" heat statement. Go away heat is essentially no heat. When his music hits, everyone stands and either goes crazy or boos their voice away. While the Cena haters may have wished him away, it wasn't because of stale work. It's because of his tremendous ability to garner a reaction. I've said it before, he's essentially been the number one heel and babyface for over a decade and that's unprecedented

[Scott Hall]

Your job as a worker is to get a reaction from people. Ronda is doing amazing.

ETA: why I consider Cena the best ever. 100% of the audience is invested in him 100% of the time.

Best ever?

A lot of Cenas reaction for years was "X-Pac Heat" a lot of fans from the Attitude Era checked out when he
started being shoved down peoples throats.

To his credit though he's one of the best promos ever and he's grown in the ring to have some great matches
the last several years.

Disagree on the "go away" heat statement. Go away heat is essentially no heat. When his music hits, everyone stands and either goes crazy or boos their voice away. While the Cena haters may have wished him away, it wasn't because of stale work. It's because of his tremendous ability to garner a reaction. I've said it before, he's essentially been the number one heel and babyface for over a decade and that's unprecedented

Why do you think most fans chanted "John Cena Sucks" to his music? Why do you think those boos were so loud?
Why do you think he got the reaction he did at ECW ONS? I had friends who were fans in the Attitude Era that hated
him so much they stopped watching.

Cena and Reigns are probably the biggest examples ever of go away heat. The Men that booed them were trying to
drown out the Kids and Women that cheered for them. It's like when Nia Jax gets booed hard now it's not because
she's a good heel it's because people legit think she sucks.

Most wrestling pundits cringe about the possibility of him breaking Flairs record

[Ruzious]

Best ever?

A lot of Cenas reaction for years was "X-Pac Heat" a lot of fans from the Attitude Era checked out when he
started being shoved down peoples throats.

To his credit though he's one of the best promos ever and he's grown in the ring to have some great matches
the last several years.

Disagree on the "go away" heat statement. Go away heat is essentially no heat. When his music hits, everyone stands and either goes crazy or boos their voice away. While the Cena haters may have wished him away, it wasn't because of stale work. It's because of his tremendous ability to garner a reaction. I've said it before, he's essentially been the number one heel and babyface for over a decade and that's unprecedented

Why do you think most fans chanted "John Cena Sucks" to his music? Why do you think those boos were so loud?
Why do you think he got the reaction he did at ECW ONS? I had friends who were fans in the Attitude Era that hated
him so much they stopped watching.

Cena and Reigns are probably the biggest examples ever of go away heat. The Men that booed them were trying to
drown out the Kids and Women that cheered for them. It's like when Nia Jax gets booed hard now it's not because
she's a good heel it's because people legit think she sucks.

Most wrestling pundits cringe about the possibility of him breaking Flairs record

And his merchandise sold the best by miles - year after year after year. I mean, I wouldn't say he's the best ever, but he was the best for most of his career.