Hot Topic - Quite Frankly; All Things Frank

[Nazrmohamed]

Frank may or may not be a bust (I think he is), but he's definitely not a point guard.

He doesn't have a good handle, he can't make quick decisions with the ball, he lacks creativity, he lacks burst... There's nothing about his game that suggests that he could be a point guard in the NBA.

As a two-guard who can act as a secondary ball-handler, cut to the basket (something he needs to work on by the way), defend on the perimeter, and hopefully make a few shots from the outside, sure there's some upside there. But as a point guard? No way.

I still think he could be a pg and he looked it more when we had Hornicek and actually ran an offense but point taken. I wouldn't mind Frank playing the 2 so much as I hate Fizz putting him at SF and sometimes even at PF.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Frank may or may not be a bust (I think he is), but he's definitely not a point guard.

He doesn't have a good handle, he can't make quick decisions with the ball, he lacks creativity, he lacks burst... There's nothing about his game that suggests that he could be a point guard in the NBA.

As a two-guard who can act as a secondary ball-handler, cut to the basket (something he needs to work on by the way), defend on the perimeter, and hopefully make a few shots from the outside, sure there's some upside there. But as a point guard? No way.

I still think he could be a pg and he looked it more when we had Hornicek and actually ran an offense but point taken. I wouldn't mind Frank playing the 2 so much as I hate Fizz putting him at SF and sometimes even at PF.

frank has PG vision, but he doesn't have PG handle. and he doesn't have the killer instinct of the role in the modern game. he doesn't apply the pressure required to be more than the NBA equivalent of a "game manager" QB in the NFL.

frank still has a way to go in the lead guard role. but he could still be more appropriate as a wing on offense while being everything you need on defense.

[Fat Kat]

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[Chanel Bomber]

Yep. Ready to move on.

You also started ready to move on But I'm close to there, myself.

Welp

I've moved on as well. Never forget he called us "stupid".

[Greenie]

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Yikes

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Man I'm going to miss the Frank threads on the knicks boards when/if he's traded. I swear I've spent like 50x as much reading these threads as watching him play or even his highlights. You guys are entertaining!

[GreatWhiteStiff]

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Yikes

And Frank's almost below 34%!

[Sark]

What if we get pick #5. Frank+the pick for #1? Not coming from an expert

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No one would ever do that trade with us. We couldn’t get the #1 pick for Frank + #2 pick.

In all likelihood, there's no combination of assets that lands Zion.

KP + wherever our pick falls would probably get it done. But obviously that's not possible now.

[Richard4444]

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Yikes

And Frank's almost below 34%!

The fact is no team lets projects as Frank and Knox play for so long. The other teams try do preserve the value and moral of theirs projetcs by limiting their minutes. Besides they have bigger and better rosters.

[Galou]

Trade Frank Ntilikina for Darius Garland on draft night.
Lets go

[Context]

I'll be honest with you - for some reason I rather trade Knox over Frank...just a gut feeling...

[BasicBall]

Am I the only one who is curious to see Frank & Dennis in the backcourt??

[blanko]

At this point why even bother? Just let him be a defender off the bench. If we trade for AD we have to give up dsj

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[br7knicks]

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i'm okay with a young guy missing shots, as long as they're taking good, smart shots.

the difference is, frank is smart with his shot selection, it just wasn't falling. knox waits until there are 3 opponents in front of him to jab step, wait, hesitate, jab step again, 3 guys within 1 foot of him, then shoot.

[br7knicks]

Am I the only one who is curious to see Frank & Dennis in the backcourt??

no. those of us that know defense helps winning basketball are looking forward to it. the rest couldn't care less. they're hoping the knicks max out guys with no defense, poor efficiency, no passing, and more shooting.

[br7knicks]

Even though he completely sucks on defense?

While frank is the better player and will help a team win, Knox has more value as of now because frank is hurt and hasn't played in a while.

But frank is the better player, easily.

Cocaine is a hell of a drug!

So is the enjoyment of losing and watching **** basketball, apparently, within the knox > frank camp.

Want nothing to do with that ****

[Cookies4Life]

Those FG #'s aren't seen in its proper context.

When does Frank put up 3-15 nights? He rarely even puts up double digit field goal attempts. When you're only putting up 5-7 shots per game, shooting sub 40's isn't as bad as someone who's chucking 15+ FGA's nightly and shooting similar percentages.

It's almost always predicated on Frank's confidence in shooting the ball from a game to game basis. If his first couple shots aren't falling, he'll usually limit himself to around 5 or 6 Field goal attempts. Knox doesn't have that discipline; he'll keep shooting all day long if given the opportunity. It's ok though, he's supposed to be a scoring wing whereas Frank is supposed to be a distributor.

Anyway Frank's main criticism is his lack of aggression as far as looking for his own shot and he has a tendency to telegraph his passes. His effort on defense alone makes him a better prospect than Knox at the moment.

Still they're both so young (in fact Frank is younger than money Mitch,) so I'm not quick to judge either guy just yet. In Frank's case, he eclipsed his career high in points twice this year so it's not like he wasn't showing any improvement at all from his rookie year. He just needs to be in the rotation receiving consistent minutes like all the other young guys. His DNP's this year were unnecessary and I'm sure affected his confidence somewhat. Very curious rotational patterns earlier this year.

[8516knicks]

Even though he completely sucks on defense?

yes, even though he has shown his defense needs improvement. Knox has shown some of the talent and upside that he has. In the years to come those displays will become more consistent. While Frank hasn't shown much improvement anywhere. In fact he has regressed in most areas. So again, Knox and its not close.

Or he could become a big goofy looking THJr, a volume scoring, no passing wing who doesn't defend and makes a team worse. Which hey! could be better than Frank! and could also sort of suck! but at least maybe won't be paid 18 million per by the Knicks!

new to.following the knicks? LOl!

[Greenie]

I'll be honest with you - for some reason I rather trade Knox over Frank...just a gut feeling...

Yep

[thebuzzardman]

Yikes

And Frank's almost below 34%!

The fact is no team lets projects as Frank and Knox play for so long. The other teams try do preserve the value and moral of theirs projetcs by limiting their minutes. Besides they have bigger and better rosters.

If Frank actually played a lot, what with limited minutes and being hurt a lot.