2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Cut Day Saturday

neiLz · Post #541 » by **neiLz** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:28 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I really like some deals (Preston Smith) and am so-so on others (Amos, Turner). Steep prices for a safety and guard. It's exciting when you're getting all these shiny new players but there's always really big risk here. Hopefully it all works out.

Yep I like the risk as these are young guys that can still get better as opposed to guys getting their 3rd/4th contract. However, now they have to hit on players in the draft. Still need another safety, WR, Tackle, ILB, TE. If he can find a couple playmakers in the draft this will be a huge success.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #542 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:28 pm

I genuinely have zero idea how good any of these players are. That's how disconnected I've been getting from the NFL the past year or two.

Matches Malone · Post #543 » by **Matches Malone** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:29 pm

I'm okay with the risk. It was time to try something new. Ted had his way with success but fell off a cliff. Gutey is doing his way. Guess we'll see what we get but this is exciting!

neiLz · Post #544 » by **neiLz** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:30 pm

Pettine coaxed 10.5 sacks out of fackrell with the corpse of clay on the other side. What will he be able to do with Both Smith's and fackrel?

MAC1987 · Post #545 » by **MAC1987** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:30 pm

ArodpwnsFavre wrote:Billy Turner at 28 mil? Overpay??!?!?!?!

Idk if its an overpay. But 33rd out of 77 from previous post about his rank. Slightly above average.

RRyder823 · Post #546 » by **RRyder823** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:31 pm

ArodpwnsFavre wrote:Billy Turner at 28 mil? Overpay??!?!?!?!

Uhmm. Yeah. That's alot for a guard

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glenn · Post #547 » by **glenn** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:32 pm

Matches Malone wrote:I was in on him and Preston Smith from the beginning. Pumped that we got one of them!

Well damn, this is a good day for you isn't it?

RRyder823 · Post #548 » by **RRyder823** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:34 pm

Amos 4 years 37 million with 21 the first two years looks like the best deal of the day so far

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MAC1987 · Post #549 » by **MAC1987** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:35 pm

RRyder823 wrote:
ArodpwnsFavre wrote:Billy Turner at 28 mil? Overpay??!?!?!?!
Uhmm. Yeah. That's alot for a guard

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18th salary rank. 7 mill per.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/guard/

So.....little overpay. I wonder why we signed him to that much?

Turk Nowitzki · Post #550 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:37 pm

RRyder823 wrote:
ArodpwnsFavre wrote:Billy Turner at 28 mil? Overpay??!?!?!?!
Uhmm. Yeah. That's alot for a guard

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Not trying to pick on anyone but I don't understand why everyone keeps referencing the total deal amounts. NFL reporters are guilty of this too. It's all about how much of the deal is guaranteed money/being paid in the first couple years.

RRyder823 · Post #551 » by **RRyder823** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:37 pm

MAC1987 wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
ArodpwnsFavre wrote:Billy Turner at 28 mil? Overpay??!?!?!?!
Uhmm. Yeah. That's alot for a guard

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18th salary rank. 7 mill per.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/guard/

So.....little overpay. I wonder why we signed him to that much?

They have to have him penciled in as a starter. Now way your signing him to that contract for depth purposes

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MikeIsGood · Post #552 » by **MikeIsGood** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:41 pm

Why does the exciting stuff always happen on the day’s work is most busy?

skones · Post #553 » by **skones** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:41 pm

Turner now too? Really pushing chips here.

RRyder823 · Post #554 » by **RRyder823** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:43 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
ArodpwnsFavre wrote:Billy Turner at 28 mil? Overpay??!?!?!?!
Uhmm. Yeah. That's alot for a guard

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Not trying to pick on anyone but I don't understand why everyone keeps referencing the total deal amounts. NFL reporters are guilty of this too. It's all about how much of the deal is guaranteed money/being paid in the first couple years.

Everyone is guilty of it. I try to look at the cap hits on a per year basis as even "guaranteed" money that gets listed isnt also necessarily guaranteed.

Admittedly though cap information isnt disclosed yet so here we are.

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Mags FTW · Post #555 » by **Mags FTW** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:46 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:Why does the exciting stuff always happen on the day’s work is most busy?

I forgot my phone charger at home. Ran to the gas station to get one of those super cheap ones that will stop working tomorrow.

agiaco · Post #556 » by **agiaco** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:47 pm

What do you guys think of the potential interest in Patterson?

WeekapaugGroove · Post #557 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:47 pm

I feel like there's very little happy medium when it comes to fans and media talking about NFL contracts. On one hand you can't look at the total figure because those are often super misleading but on the other hand some media go too far and only count guaranteed money and thats not exactly right either because if a guy plays well and sticks around a few years then he will get a good portion of the non-guaranteed money too. It's especially true with the contracts for good QB's who rarely ever get cut early in their deals.

MAC1987 · Post #558 » by **MAC1987** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:48 pm

agiaco wrote:What do you guys think of the potential interest in Patterson?

I would say gross. But our coach isn't MM so i like it better because of that. :lol:

Kerb Hohl · Post #559 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:51 pm

agiaco wrote:What do you guys think of the potential interest in Patterson?

Cordarrelle? I'm a big fan. He's not a good route runner but if you force-feed 5-10 touches to him/game you get some big plays. And you can use him as a battering ram if teams go to smaller personnel like the Pats did last year.

Post #560 » by **Jollay** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:52 pm

You definitely have to look at the final contract/guaranteed money, plus who we cut as a result before giving a final opinion.

As a reference point TJ Lang got 19 million guaranteed from the Lions, and that was a ton for a guard.

But still reason to think positively today, that's for sure.