Team Canada Basketball Thread V2.0

frumble · Post #921 » by **frumble** » Sun Mar 10, 2019 2:23 am

Clarke and Barrett named Wooden award finalists.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26209170/duke-zion-barrett-wooden-finalists

BilboBanginz · Post #922 » by **BilboBanginz** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:24 pm

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Surprise, surprise.

I was at the game. Eddie Ekiyor was tournament MVP. He looked really competent. Canada Basketball should be keeping an eye on him.

Kingsway_fan · Post #923 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:21 pm

This clown does realize the reason for this?

The university has the lowest entrance requirements academically... most can't get accepted into top schools.

University of Waterloo has average entrance of low 90....

That is the number one reason these weak schools get the athletes...

frumble · Post #924 » by **frumble** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:32 pm

Carleton's admissions requirements are certainly much easier than Waterloo's. But are they much easier than those of Brandon, SMU, UCCB, UPEI, TRU, or a bunch of other schools?

It was a good showing for the Atlantic schools. Dal was the only school that played Carleton close (actually had a lead going into the 4th quarter). And SMU finished a respectable 6th.

I believe Dal returns Carson, Veinot, Kappos and pretty much everyone except Shoveller, and should be solid next year.

Anyone know how attendance was?

BilboBanginz · Post #925 » by **BilboBanginz** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:12 pm

frumble wrote:Carleton's admissions requirements are certainly much easier than Waterloo's. But are they much easier than those of Brandon, SMU, UCCB, UPEI, TRU, or a bunch of other schools?

It was a good showing for the Atlantic schools. Dal was the only school that played Carleton close (actually had a lead going into the 4th quarter). And SMU finished a respectable 6th.

I believe Dal returns Carson, Veinot, Kappos and pretty much everyone except Shoveller, and should be solid next year.

Anyone know how attendance was?

I was at the game. Most of the seats were full in the lower bowl along the sidelines. Basically nobody in the upperbowl or in the lowerbowl behind the baselines. I would guess about ~3-4000. Not sure about the other games during the weeked. My friend went to the Dal vs. Carleton semifinal and he said it was quite lively.

I went to the AUS Final last weekend between SMU and Dal and it had much better attendance, and had a much lively atmosphere, but of course that was between two hometown teams.

BilboBanginz · Post #926 » by **BilboBanginz** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:40 pm

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mojo13 · Post #927 » by **mojo13** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:37 pm

As a FYI - the Live Draw for the World Cup is this Saturday March 16 at 6:30pm Shanghai time which is 6:30am ET and 3:30am PT.
I'm on PT time so no way I am watching live - only bad things happen to me at that time of night.
Watch here:
http://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/draw

I trust when I wake up Saturday you guys will have provided a great breakdown here already...

No Pool of Death!!!

TheFutureMM · Post #928 » by **TheFutureMM** » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:30 pm

BilboBanginz wrote:

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Big Canadian representation in the ACC awards:

All First Team

- RJ Barrett

All Third Team

- Nickeil Alexander-Walker

Honorable Mention

- Mfiondu Kabengele

Sixth Man of the Year

- Mfiondu Kabengele

All Freshman Team

- RJ Barrett

Also good to note that RJ finished second in the Rookie of the Year and Player of the Year categories to Zion (as he should have). The pedigree continues to grow.

frumble · Post #929 » by **frumble** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:01 am

Clarke first team all WCC, newcomer of the year, and defensive player of the year.

In the Big 12, Shayok first team and Wigginton 6th man of the year.

Brazdeikis Big 10 second team and freshman of the year.

MEDIC · Post #930 » by **MEDIC** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:43 am

Kingsway_fan wrote:This clown does realize the reason for this?

The university has the lowest entrance requirements academically... most can't get accepted into top schools.

University of Waterloo has average entrance of low 90....

That is the number one reason these weak schools get the athletes...

Good for Carlton I guess.....nice to see them being smart & capitalizing on it.

I don't think it's simply that though. Carlton has run a fantastic program for years. One that has been competitive with NCAA teams.

Post #931 » by **Patman** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:20 pm

TheFutureMM wrote:
BilboBanginz wrote:

Read on Twitter

Big Canadian representation in the ACC awards:

All First Team

- RJ Barrett

All Third Team

- Nickeil Alexander-Walker

Honorable Mention

- Mfiondu Kabengele

Sixth Man of the Year

- Mfiondu Kabengele

All Freshman Team

- RJ Barrett

Also good to note that RJ finished second in the Rookie of the Year and Player of the Year categories to Zion (as he should have). The pedigree continues to grow.

I'd like to see Mfiondu come back for another year in a bigger role.

young11a · Post #932 » by **young11a** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:01 pm

Kingsway_fan wrote:This clown does realize the reason for this?

The university has the lowest entrance requirements academically... most can't get accepted into top schools.

University of Waterloo has average entrance of low 90....

That is the number one reason these weak schools get the athletes...

Waterloo is trash they couldn't compete if they let anyone in

IceBelly05 · Post #933 » by **IceBelly05** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:04 pm

Kingsway_fan wrote:This clown does realize the reason for this?

The university has the lowest entrance requirements academically... most can't get accepted into top schools.

University of Waterloo has average entrance of low 90....

That is the number one reason these weak schools get the athletes...

Well by that logic York would be a powerhouse and they suck in every usport. There are a lot of schools that let you get in out of highschool with a low to mid 70. Dave smart legitimately deserves a lot of credit. I wish the country in general took amateur sport more serious at all levels, the support behind practically every amateur sport besides hockey is legitimately a joke in this country.

Going thru the amateur boxing circuit all the way up to provincials you see how little these athletes are provided with, and then you go to a tourney in america and it’s literally night and day. That’s just one example the lack of success in general at the olympics (namely summer), the light crowds at u-sports finals it really is a shame for a lot of amateur athletes.

frumble · Post #934 » by **frumble** » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:24 pm

BilboBanginz wrote:I was at the game. Most of the seats were full in the lower bowl along the sidelines. Basically nobody in the upperbowl or in the lowerbowl behind the baselines. I would guess about ~3-4000. Not sure about the other games during the weeked. My friend went to the Dal vs. Carleton semifinal and he said it was quite lively.

I went to the AUS Final last weekend between SMU and Dal and it had much better attendance, and had a much lively atmosphere, but of course that was between two hometown teams.

That's a little disappointing, especially considering two local teams made it.

Maybe I am mis-remembering my youth, but I seem to recall the Final 8 drawing better in the 80s and early 90s, when there were often no Halifax teams in it (e.g., only X from the AUBC).

Anyone know how it has drawn when they have taken it out of Halifax? Even worse than 4K for the finals?

Dtown84 · Post #935 » by **Dtown84** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:28 pm

Pools decided for the draw and it probably could have gone a lot better for Canada...

http://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/news/procedure-for-fiba-basketball-world-cup-2019-draw

Watch on YouTube

BilboBanginz · Post #936 » by **BilboBanginz** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:19 pm

Dtown84 wrote:Pools decided for the draw and it probably could have gone a lot better for Canada...

http://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2019/news/procedure-for-fiba-basketball-world-cup-2019-draw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=245&v=yz0i5Ip8Ytk

Yeah this doesn't look great for Canada, but that is kind of what I expected. In this scenario we got placed into the same group as Russia, Giannis, and New Zealand. Even New Zealand would be a tough out. It is also impossible for us to be placed with a team from the worst pot, Pot 8 (Japan, Jordan, Tunisia, Ivory Coast). The 4th best team in Canada's group will be from Pot 7, so one of Nigeria, Senegal, Angola, or New Zealand.

So our group will consist of one team from Pot 2 (excluding Argentina): Serbia, Lithuania, or Greece.

one team from Pot 3 (excluding Brazil): Russia, Australia, or Italy.

and one team from Pot 7: Nigeria, Senegal, New Zealand, or Angola.

The ideal draw from Pot 3 will depend on who is playing. Definitely want to avoid Greece if Giannis is playing, which I believe he will. Serbia with Jokic might be the 2nd best team in the tournament. Lithuania is probably our ideal draw from this group if both Giannis and Jokic play. Pick your poison I guess.

From Pot 2 I would like to avoid Australia. They could field a really deep team that has a lot of experience playing with each other. Russia and Italy would both be tough, but seem more beatable than Australia.

Given the circumstances, I think a best case scenario would be a group with Lithuania, Russia and Angola. Swap Greece for Lithuania if Giannis isn't playing.

Our nightmare scenario is probably being grouped with Serbia and Australia.

Hair Canada · Post #937 » by **Hair Canada** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:44 pm

I think you are right Bilbo. And if I'm reading this correctly, there's a 50% chance that we get a death pool -- the one with Australia in it (it's either Canada or Montenegro in that pool). This would be worse if we also get Serbia, but Lithuania or Greece (especially if Giannis shows up) are also very hard. If that happens, I actually think there's a fair chance that we don't make it to the last 16...

BilboBanginz · Post #938 » by **BilboBanginz** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 1:59 pm

I agree. I think it's crucial that we avoid Australia from Pot 3. If we do that, I feel much better about finishing top 2. I'm much more optimistic about beating Russia or Italy than I am Australia. Whoever we get from Pot 2 is very likely to finish 1st in the group (assuming Giannis plays).

mojo13 · Post #939 » by **mojo13** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:30 pm

BilboBanginz wrote:I agree. I think it's crucial that we avoid Australia from Pot 3. If we do that, I feel much better about finishing top 2. I'm much more optimistic about beating Russia or Italy than I am Australia. Whoever we get from Pot 2 is very likely to finish 1st in the group (assuming Giannis plays).

I think you are overrating both Greece and Lithuania. Greece with Giannis was pretty bad in the past. Ya he is a different player now but he is not well suited to FIBA. Lithuania has a mediocre guard group and could get torn up by NBA guards. They will be heavily reliant on Sabonis and Val and run an risk that one or both don’t play (unlikely but you never know). They will be good but both will be beatable by Canada.

aminiaturebuddha · Post #940 » by **aminiaturebuddha** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:00 pm

So if I'm reading the FIBA article correctly, it looks like Canada was the victim of the rule that avoids having teams from the Americas in the same pool, as we were moved from pot 5 to 6. I wonder why Canada was chosen to move pots? Maybe it was something as simple as they thought Canada Basketball was least likely to complain about the change or have any influence to affect change if they did.

Maybe I'm reaching, but it seems like we got kind of screwed. Of course, the other teams that will be upset are any first or second seeded country that ends up getting stuck in a pool of death with us.

Edit: Actually, after looking at it more closely, I see that there's really no other team they could have moved. My bad. They're really handcuffed by rankings that don't reflect the current strength of certain teams such as Argentina.