What will Hawks offense look like under Lloyd, Lin and Young Trae?
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Re: What will Hawks offense look like under Lloyd, Lin and Young Trae?
Interesting observation. I'm not certain there's a direct correlation.
But worth considering...
But worth considering...
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ESPNNo player in the league this season has initiated more pick-and-roll opportunities than Trae Young, and he's leading by a healthy margin.
The Hawks scored only 0.87 points per direct pick for Young in 2018, but 1.05 points per direct pick since Jan. 1.
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Pardon my ignorance but what is a 'Spain pick and roll'? Sounds sexy.
Hey I said 'pardon my ignorance'?
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kg01 wrote:Pardon my ignorance but what is a 'Spain pick and roll'? Sounds sexy.
Hey I said 'pardon my ignorance'?
Spain pick-and-rolls add another offensive player to the action: after the standard high pick-and-roll, a shooter sets a back screen on the big man’s defender and then pops to the 3-point line.
The Stepback
Lakers Spain PnR Video
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Jamaaliver wrote:kg01 wrote:Pardon my ignorance but what is a 'Spain pick and roll'? Sounds sexy.
Hey I said 'pardon my ignorance'?
Spain pick-and-rolls add another offensive player to the action: after the standard high pick-and-roll, a shooter sets a back screen on the big man’s defender and then pops to the 3-point line.
The Stepback
Lakers Spain PnR Video
Yeah, I watched it a few times and figured out what they were referring to. Thanks for the tutorial though as it reaffirmed by original thinking which was that it is indeed some sexy, seggsy action. Aww, baby. (Barry White voice)
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Since the all-star break we are the #1 scoring offense in the league. For the season we are 5th is the East; only behind the Raptors, Wizards, 76ers, and Bucks. I would have taken large bets against all of that before the start of the season.
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Buzzard wrote:Since the all-star break we are the #1 scoring offense in the league.
For the season we are 5th is the East; only behind the Raptors, Wizards, 76ers, and Bucks. I would have taken large bets against all of that before the start of the season.
You got a link or a tweet or something?
Cause that seems unlikely given that we're one of the bottom offenses in the league.
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Jamaaliver wrote:Buzzard wrote:Since the all-star break we are the #1 scoring offense in the league.
For the season we are 5th is the East; only behind the Raptors, Wizards, 76ers, and Bucks. I would have taken large bets against all of that before the start of the season.
You got a link or a tweet or something?
Cause that seems unlikely given that we're one of the bottom offenses in the league.
This is where Hawks rank 13th and only the Raptors, Wizards, 76ers, and Bucks are ahead of us in the East.
https://stats.nba.com/teams/traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1
This is where we rank #1 overall. This one has the four overtime outlier in it; but still pretty impressive. Efficiency wise we are 18th for the season but have improved to 13th for post all-star.
https://stats.nba.com/teams/traditional/?sort=PTS&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&SeasonSegment=Post%20All-Star
When I say scoring I do mean points per game....
Post All Star break efficiency link:
https://stats.nba.com/teams/advanced/?sort=EFG_PCT&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&SeasonSegment=Post%20All-Star
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Buzzard wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:Buzzard wrote:Since the all-star break we are the #1 scoring offense in the league.
For the season we are 5th is the East; only behind the Raptors, Wizards, 76ers, and Bucks. I would have taken large bets against all of that before the start of the season.
When I say scoring I do mean points per game....
Ahhhh. Sadly, those pure scoring numbers are slightly inflated because our pace is so much higher than the top teams.
By this narrow metric, Golden State and Houston aren't even top 10 offenses -- which seems illogical for the #1 and #2 teams in Offensive Rating.
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Jamaaliver wrote:Buzzard wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:
When I say scoring I do mean points per game....
Ahhhh. Sadly, those pure scoring numbers are slightly inflated because our pace is so much higher than the top teams.
By this narrow metric, Golden State and Houston aren't even top 10 offenses -- which seems illogical for the #1 and #2 teams in Offensive Rating.
Sure but I still like it. Post All Star break our pace has slowed down and we are 9th. GSW is 3rd and Houston is way down at 24th.
https://stats.nba.com/teams/advanced/?sort=PACE&dir=-1&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&SeasonSegment=Post%20All-Star
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PG Ice Trae
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An abridged version of the article:
The AthleticHow the Hawks have built one of the league’s best offenses since the All-Star break
Lloyd Pierce’s offensive philosophy was one of the biggest unknowns entering the season. More than 70 games into the season, it’s clear what Atlanta wants to do on offense and unclear what it wants to accomplish on defense.
When you watch Atlanta, you know you’re going to see lots of 3-pointers and shots at the rim with the long midrange shot eschewed from the team’s shot chart each night. What has changed for the Hawks, who have the league’s 14th best offense this season, since the All-Star break?
“We went from 30th in turnovers to 15th in turnovers in that period,” Pierce said. “We have more possessions, and it’s really that simple. I’ve felt this all year — if we didn’t have the turnover issue, we would have been a top-10 or top-12 offense in the league.
In talking with several of the Hawks in the past couple of weeks, each touted the fewer turnovers being the reason why the team’s offense has been one of the best in the league for the past month.
The game last week against the Grizzlies is the ideal offense the Hawks would like every night if they could match it. The team had 35 assists on 52 field goal attempts with only 11 turnovers. Atlanta moved to 11-3 on the season when it has more than 30 assists in a game.
The Hawks have figured out one side of the floor and what they would like to accomplish.
The team is third in the league with 40.3 percent of its shots coming at the rim and fifth with 36.7 percent of its shots coming from behind the 3-point line, according to Cleaning The Glass. Eliminating the mid-range game out of the team’s repertoire has been one of the biggest changes from last year to this year. The team ranks 28th in the league with 23.1 percent of its shot attempts being in the midrange.
Almost 16 percent of the team’s shot attempts last year were of the long midrange variety. That number has dropped to 7 percent this year.
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Raw numbers are somewhat diluted, less important in this era. But this is impressive all the same.
We're basically the Nash era Phoenix Suns. Not bad....
We're basically the Nash era Phoenix Suns. Not bad....
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El-P is only here temporarily for the losing during the rebuild. He can’t be worthy, no other team even interviewed him. Amiright? Anyone? Hello? (crickets...)
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