Why draft Cam Reddish aside from "potential"?

Ascrilas · Post #61 » by **Ascrilas** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:58 pm

Reddish looks exactly like the type of player Danny Ainge would like to draft. Athletic, defensively skilled wing that can't shoot or pass...thank god we don't have a pick that high, if we picked him and he busts, I'd be furious for years.

Shock Defeat · Post #62 » by **Shock Defeat** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:15 pm

He's trash. If you are a good basketball player, you don't play like Reddish has played this year. The team that picks him off of "potential" and HS hype will be picking a bust. Straight up.

Post #63 » by **Duke4life831** » Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:40 pm

Ascrilas wrote:Reddish looks exactly like the type of player Danny Ainge would like to draft. Athletic, defensively skilled wing that can't shoot or pass...thank god we don't have a pick that high, if we picked him and he busts, I'd be furious for years.

He's not athletic. He's not the raw athlete that Ainge usually likes. He's kind of the complete opposite actually.

GreatWhiteStiff · Post #64 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:36 am

lonzo_pelota wrote:FGM-FGAFG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
4.4 8.6 .51 0.0 0.1 0.50 2.3 3.7 .60 5.1 2.2 0.8 1.4 2.2 2.1 11.2
Cam is a Great Prospect especially for a freshman on D1 powerhouse school & being coach by a legendary coach in Coach K
above is perennial hall of famer Grant Hill's first year at Duke college stats, imagine if he left after his first year and jumped straight to the league instead of staying all four years, this is the sort of potential you have to judge them on nowadays

So grant hill had: 18/8/4/2 steals per 40 his freshman year. Not outstanding, but doesn't scream abysmal failure to me. More makes than misses as well.

lonzo_pelota · Post #65 » by **lonzo_pelota** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:10 am

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
lonzo_pelota wrote:FGM-FGAFG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
4.4 8.6 .51 0.0 0.1 0.50 2.3 3.7 .60 5.1 2.2 0.8 1.4 2.2 2.1 11.2
Cam is a Great Prospect especially for a freshman on D1 powerhouse school & being coach by a legendary coach in Coach K
above is perennial hall of famer Grant Hill's first year at Duke college stats, imagine if he left after his first year and jumped straight to the league instead of staying all four years, this is the sort of potential you have to judge them on nowadays

So grant hill had: 18/8/4/2 steals per 40 his freshman year. Not outstanding, but doesn't scream abysmal failure to me. More makes than misses as well.

and so if grant hill left as a freshman and those are his stats which are comparable to reddish and they have similar body types
where would u draft grant if your only drafting off potential , seeing how he went on to be a hall of fame allstar only derailed by
injuries. cam has a lot of future potential is all im saying and thats all you can draft based on. he could also be the next michael carter williams too lol

moss_is_1 · Post #66 » by **moss_is_1** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:25 am

Ive barely looked into draft prospects at all this season..however on a team as loaded as Duke some guys arent going to show off everything they can do. Workouts will decide where Reddish goes.

MotownMadness · Post #67 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:38 am

If he could just get more efficient the tools are there to be a Paul George type wing. He’s got two way potential but damn when is he gonna get consistent. High ceiling to develop with but high bust potential as well at this point.

theonlyclutch · Post #68 » by **theonlyclutch** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:24 am

If MPJ can get a #14 pick with a WAY worse injury history as well as non-existent college track record just based on HS hype alone, you can bet that some franchise's GM/owner will ignore the tape and numbers to draft him with a lottery pick.

drekwins · Post #69 » by **drekwins** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:58 am

HMFFL wrote:Marvin Williams comes to mind when I think about Cam. I believe his stock decreases from #3.
I hope he proves me wrong, but I consider him a risk, and I don't want him if I'm picking top 5.

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Who still has him at #3? Zion, RJ and Morant... then I have Garland, Hunter and Culver in front of him. He's 7-11 at this point.

drekwins · Post #70 » by **drekwins** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:59 am

MotownMadness wrote:If he could just get more efficient the tools are there to be a Paul George type wing. He’s got two way potential but damn when is he gonna get consistent. High ceiling to develop with but high bust potential as well at this point.

That's like saying, if Tim Hardaway Jr could just get more efficient... he'd be Klay Thompson... efficiency is what makes great players great. It's not easy to become more efficient.... and he'd need a DRASTIC improvement. I see a lot of Justice Winslow in him.

Post #71 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:47 am

moss_is_1 wrote:Ive barely looked into draft prospects at all this season..however on a team as loaded as Duke some guys arent going to show off everything they can do. Workouts will decide where Reddish goes.

Again when Zion went down for 6 games, Cam played even worse. Cam takes the 2nd most shots on the team. Outside of RJ and Zion who is the other player on Duke that is considered an average offensive player?

Post #72 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:50 am

Take away the preseason hype, no one would be talking Cam as a draft prospect right now. What makes Cam Reddish the better prospect over Cam Johnson?

Cam has one good half, gets everyone hyped on him, then he has 5-6 games of truly horrible offensive basketball. If there was a stat for dribble to turnover ratio, I feel pretty good that Cam would be one of the worse in the nation.

Funcrusher · Post #73 » by **Funcrusher** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:24 am

kodo wrote:This is why drafting High Schoolers again is going to be a disaster.

Can you imagine these kids entering the NBA being drafted by their HS rankings:

karkinos · Post #74 » by **karkinos** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:55 pm

cam reddish is hot garbage right now
if he doesn't step it up he's going to turn into seventh woods' description from the commentators last night as "role player off the bench"

Pinkyring · Post #75 » by **Pinkyring** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:15 pm

lonzo_pelota wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
lonzo_pelota wrote:FGM-FGAFG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
4.4 8.6 .51 0.0 0.1 0.50 2.3 3.7 .60 5.1 2.2 0.8 1.4 2.2 2.1 11.2
Cam is a Great Prospect especially for a freshman on D1 powerhouse school & being coach by a legendary coach in Coach K
above is perennial hall of famer Grant Hill's first year at Duke college stats, imagine if he left after his first year and jumped straight to the league instead of staying all four years, this is the sort of potential you have to judge them on nowadays

So grant hill had: 18/8/4/2 steals per 40 his freshman year. Not outstanding, but doesn't scream abysmal failure to me. More makes than misses as well.

and so if grant hill left as a freshman and those are his stats which are comparable to reddish and they have similar body types
where would u draft grant if your only drafting off potential , seeing how he went on to be a hall of fame allstar only derailed by
injuries. cam has a lot of future potential is all im saying and thats all you can draft based on. he could also be the next michael carter williams too lol

Grant hill also shot 52% from the field thats pretty important compared to a guy shooting in the 30s

j-ragg · Post #76 » by **j-ragg** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:23 pm

In spurts he looks like Paul George, then he disappears sometimes and looks like he's in his own head after a turnover.

Axolotl · Post #77 » by **Axolotl** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:54 pm

Aside from potential, I haven't seen a reason to draft Reddish - quite the opposite, really.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #78 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:59 pm

MetalFingaz wrote:I don't watch the NCAA because it's an affront to basketball in general, but Reddish is a wing with good measurables who can handle and create his own shot. He may not be elite at anything right now, but few college prospects are.

you think he can create his own shot. its clear you don't watch NCAA basketball

SeattleJazzFan · Post #79 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:00 pm

any time reddish tries to put the ball on the floor for the purpose of attacking, he's a complete dumpster fire.

Stillwater · Post #80 » by **Stillwater** » Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:30 pm

j-ragg wrote:In spurts he looks like Paul George, then he disappears sometimes and looks like he's in his own head after a turnover.

Maybe he's got A.D.D. or something, I mean it's obvious at the charity stripe...the look in his eyes says he is somewhere else and cannot stay focus'd or engaged. If somebody can figure out how to keep him engaged,he could prove to be a nba starter eventually, but as is,I think it would not be too far fetched to think basketball isn't something he loves or has a passion for at all, and more or less is just something he was good at against smaller players in HS.so he rolled with it. I hate the projections on him being more than a role player in college as is, even based on his historical data that had him as a 5 star recruit for the NBA which he wouldn't sniff a rotation for unless said team was at the beginning of a long tanking rebuild.