2019 NBA Draft thread

[bondom34]

Since I haven't really posted in a while, just wanted to say Matisse Thybulle.

[ThunderBolt]

Since I haven't really posted in a while, just wanted to say Matisse Thybulle.

I don’t watch much college b-ball so I did a quick statistic and game log check. I’m not seeing it. What am I missing?

[bondom34]

Since I haven't really posted in a while, just wanted to say Matisse Thybulle.

I don’t watch much college b-ball so I did a quick statistic and game log check. I’m not seeing it. What am I missing?

Won Pac 12 DPOY, 3 point shot projects well (also a good FT shooter which projects). Length, solid 3 point attempt rate. Not overly versatile on offense from what I've read but his defense is through the roof and offense projects decently. At least I think a good Roberson replacement.

[retrobro90]

I'd be stoked if Brandon Clarke fell to 23. Seen him mocked as high as 10 and as low as 32. Nerlens is probably gone and I think Clarke/Adams could be a special kind of defensive center rotation.

[Dn4sty]

I really like Thybulle as well. Also really high on Ayo Dosunmu (6-4/185). He’s a legit athlete who can potentially play point, but is probably best off ball is a secondary distributor. 6-7 wingspan who’s shown signs of being a plus defender

I see a lot of Jrue in his game

[RunOKC]

If the player can shoot FT's or 3's cross him off your list because we most likely aren't getting them

[Dn4sty]

There are a lot of guys who I think could really help OKC that should be available in the mid 20s.

SF/SG Matisse Thybulle 6-6/205
PG/SG Ayo Dosunmu 6-4/185
SG Nikeil Alexader Walker 6-5/210
SF Kris Wilikies 6-8/215
PG/SG Ty Jerome 6-5/200
SG Luegentz Dort 6-4/215 (I feel like this guy is the Presti prototype)

I didn’t put any bigs on this list because honestly unless they are Embiid/KAT type players I feel like it’s a semi-wasted pick.

Now if OKC has plans to move Adams (which I think is doubtful), then drafting a center makes a ton of sense.

[bondom34]

There are a lot of guys who I think could really help OKC that should be available in the mid 20s.

SF/SG Matisse Thybulle 6-6/205
PG/SG Ayo Dosunmu 6-4/185
SG Nikeil Alexader Walker 6-5/210
SF Kris Wilikies 6-8/215
PG/SG Ty Jerome 6-5/200
SG Luegentz Dort 6-4/215 (I feel like this guy is the Presti prototype)

I didn’t put any bigs on this list because honestly unless they are Embiid/KAT type players I feel like it’s a semi-wasted pick.

Now if OKC has plans to move Adams (which I think is doubtful), then drafting a center makes a ton of sense.

Was going to post in the season thread but kinda think he may be gone. I'm seeing the 8th seed looking more likely with only 1.5 games up, and a first round ugly loss seems like it'd prompt payroll cuts.

[ThunderBolt]

There are a lot of guys who I think could really help OKC that should be available in the mid 20s.

SF/SG Matisse Thybulle 6-6/205
PG/SG Ayo Dosunmu 6-4/185
SG Nikeil Alexader Walker 6-5/210
SF Kris Wilikies 6-8/215
PG/SG Ty Jerome 6-5/200
SG Luegentz Dort 6-4/215 (I feel like this guy is the Presti prototype)

I didn’t put any bigs on this list because honestly unless they are Embiid/KAT type players I feel like it’s a semi-wasted pick.

Now if OKC has plans to move Adams (which I think is doubtful), then drafting a center makes a ton of sense.

Was going to post in the season thread but kinda think he may be gone. I'm seeing the 8th seed looking more likely with only 1.5 games up, and a first round ugly loss seems like it'd prompt payroll cuts.

I could see Presti using the pick to dump schroder on draft night.

[Dn4sty]

Several guys I’ve been impressed with in tourney

Bruno Fernando
Matisse Thybulle
Tyler Herro

[Kizz Fastfists]

I could see Presti using the pick to dump schroder on draft night.

That would make both Melo trades look even worse! It would basically mean Presti dumped two first round picks to save $10M on Melo. That is ignoring that two quality assets given up for Melo, the 2nd round pick that was Mitchell Robinson and could have been a much needed shooter in Kurucs for OKC, along with McDermott.

[ThunderBolt]

I could see Presti using the pick to dump schroder on draft night.

That would make both Melo trades look even worse! It would basically mean Presti dumped two first round picks to save $10M on Melo. That is ignoring that two quality assets given up for Melo, the 2nd round pick that was Mitchell Robinson and could have been a much needed shooter in Kurucs for OKC, along with McDermott.

Ya I know. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen.

[Kizz Fastfists]

It could happen, although I don't think it will. I think it will just highlight some of the failures of Presti. Just take back the Kanter, McDermott and 2nd round pick for Melo trade. The pick ended up being Mitchell Robinson, although I would have wanted Kurucs to give OKC another shooter, but either of them would be huge right now for OKC. McDermott and Kurucs as shooters off the bench or just McDermott as a shooter with Robinson's rim protection and finishing around the rim.

[Dn4sty]

It could happen, although I don't think it will. I think it will just highlight some of the failures of Presti. Just take back the Kanter, McDermott and 2nd round pick for Melo trade. The pick ended up being Mitchell Robinson, although I would have wanted Kurucs to give OKC another shooter, but either of them would be huge right now for OKC. McDermott and Kurucs as shooters off the bench or just McDermott as a shooter with Robinson's rim protection and finishing around the rim.

Hindsight is always 20/20. Everyone (you included) thought the Melo trade was a homerun

[Bergmaniac]

I could see Presti using the pick to dump schroder on draft night.

That would make both Melo trades look even worse! It would basically mean Presti dumped two first round picks to save $10M on Melo. That is ignoring that two quality assets given up for Melo, the 2nd round pick that was Mitchell Robinson and could have been a much needed shooter in Kurucs for OKC, along with McDermott.

10 mln. saved salary this season is 45 mln. saved in luxury tax.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Hindsight is always 20/20. Everyone (you included) thought the Melo trade was a homerun

I thought getting rid of Kanter made the team better by subtraction. I said BEFORE the trade that they should have facilitated Melo to Houston and gotten Ryan Anderson. I never wanted Melo, but I did want Kanter gone more. It only took McDermott, a 2nd round pick (Mitchell Robinson) and a 1st round pick along with taking on $6M in salary to be rid of Kanter. That is just so far. There will either be another $15.5M or $31M added on top of that or more outgoing picks due to Schroder, who is the same level of player that Kanter and Melo is, being on the books.

The initial mistake, matching the Kanter offer, I was against before Presti did it. Without that mistake they actually could have set themselves up to have cap room the off-season after kd left. They also would have had a better big man coming off the bench. Trading for Melo was a chain reaction to previous Presti mistakes. If you undo the initial mistake, trading Harden and keeping Russ, everything plays out different. Yes, if you look back far enough you will find me saying before Harden was traded that if someone had to go it needed to be Russ. You will also find that I felt Presti got a good return for Harden given the conditions under which he was trading him. I was then upset that he didn't extend KMart who was the shooter OKC needed at the time and Presti never found a suitable replacement.

[Kizz Fastfists]

10 mln. saved salary this season is 45 mln. saved in luxury tax.

They would have saved more by stretching Melo. They are still on the hook for $15.5M next year unless they give up assets to move Schroder and then he still has another $15.5M in '20-'21. Long-term it won't be any savings unless they give up significantly more assets. In which case Presti will have ended up giving away a first round pick and whatever else he moves for either $10M savings OR a net increase in salary along with giving up the picks. Since the initial contract was Kanter there actually is no savings as last year of Melo's salary and this year of Schroder's salary is more than what was left on Kanter's and McDermott's contracts combined.

[Dn4sty]

Hindsight is always 20/20. Everyone (you included) thought the Melo trade was a homerun

I thought getting rid of Kanter made the team better by subtraction. I said BEFORE the trade that they should have facilitated Melo to Houston and gotten Ryan Anderson. I never wanted Melo, but I did want Kanter gone more. It only took McDermott, a 2nd round pick (Mitchell Robinson) and a 1st round pick along with taking on $6M in salary to be rid of Kanter. That is just so far. There will either be another $15.5M or $31M added on top of that or more outgoing picks due to Schroder, who is the same level of player that Kanter and Melo is, being on the books.

The initial mistake, matching the Kanter offer, I was against before Presti did it. Without that mistake they actually could have set themselves up to have cap room the off-season after kd left. They also would have had a better big man coming off the bench. Trading for Melo was a chain reaction to previous Presti mistakes. If you undo the initial mistake, trading Harden and keeping Russ, everything plays out different. Yes, if you look back far enough you will find me saying before Harden was traded that if someone had to go it needed to be Russ. You will also find that I felt Presti got a good return for Harden given the conditions under which he was trading him. I was then upset that he didn't extend KMart who was the shooter OKC needed at the time and Presti never found a suitable replacement.

That’s just not true and I’ve got the receipts to prove it. You had them in competition for 2nd best real in west after Melo trade. In hindsight all of us (you included) were off on this one. It’s ok to be wrong

[ThunderBolt]

If Culver really falls that far then I'm even more on board with trading Adams to Minnesota if that deal is on the table.

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[ThunderBolt]

What is everyone's thoughts on Bol Bol? Seems like a high risk/ high reward type of player. If he falls far enough I'm not against taking a chance.

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