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Cam Reddish is going to be the next player to "fall" to us bringing excitement only to suck.
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I'm not convinced that Mitch goes for the guy falling the way Cho did.
My picks:
2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
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My players to watch in the NCAAT:
De’Andre Hunter PF - Virginia
Jarrett Culver SG - Texas Tech
Nickeil Alexander-Walker SG - Virginia Tech (SLEEPER)
P.J. Washington PF - Kentucky (RED FLAG ALERT)
Brandon Clarke PF - Gonzaga
http://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable
I didn’t count Coby White, Rui Hachimura et cetera who I’ve seen plenty of already and wouldn’t mind drafting.
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De’Andre Hunter PF - Virginia
Pre-Draft Analysis
Strengths
- Has prototypical physical tools for a modern-day NBA forward. Very similar measurements to the likes of OG Anunoby, Danny Granger and Rudy Gay.
- One of the most versatile defenders in the college game. Length, strength and terrific feet helped him switch seamlessly onto big men such as Marvin Bagley II or wings such as Josh Okogie as a key cog for Virginia, the best defensive team in the country last season.
- Was an efficient and prolific scorer coming off the bench last season. Hit 38 percent of his 3s and 76 percent of his free throws. Aggressive pushing the ball off the defensive glass and getting to the free throw line.
Improvement areas
- Played only 20 minutes per game last season. Came out of nowhere and will need to prove he can handle a much bigger role with both of Virginia's starting forwards off to the pro ranks.
- Doesn't have the most fluid or natural shooting stroke. Will have to show that his shooting percentages are sustainable while carrying a bigger load.
- Not a freakish athlete. Posted a negative assist-to-turnover ratio as a freshman. Turning 21 next month, should be a junior agewise.
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Jarrett Culver SG - Texas Tech
Pre-Draft Analysis
Strengths
- Excellent size for a guard prospect with a solid 6-9 wingspan. Strong legs. Greatly improved frame. Solid straight-line athlete who can play above the rim in space. Uses his size to score over smaller guards in the post.
- Improved on-ball creator. Playing a lot of point guard as a sophomore. Capable ball-handler who can navigate pick-and-rolls and make basic reads.
- Plus defender who can check up to three positions at the NBA level. Sound technique. Great feet. Competitive rebounder. High-intangible prospect who has been extremely productive as a 19-year-old. High floor in the Josh Hart mold.
Improvement areas
- Jump shot is slow and mechanical. Decent percentages but confidence comes and goes. Hasn't shown NBA range. Turns down pull-ups when teams go under. Overhauled mechanics this past summer. Career 66.3 percent free throw shooter.
- Not overly shifty with the ball. Decision-making also still improving. Will force his way into the paint without much of a plan. Comes to a lot of jump stops in traffic. Relies on power.
- Can add more finesse finishes in the paint. Viewed as more of a role starter than a high-upside prospect long-term.
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Nickeil Alexander-Walker SG - Virginia Tech (SLEEPER)
Pre-Draft Analysis
His greatly increased on-ball duties have done wonders for his draft stock, as he looks much more dynamic on the move. Most importantly, he has shown the vision and ambidextrous live-dribble passing that should allow him to play on the ball some in the NBA.
He's rarely sped up and has the physical profile NBA teams are looking for in a big guard. He's an instinctual, competitive defender who should be able to check positions 1-3 as his impressive frame continues to fill out. Alexander-Walker is a high-floor prospect who at the very least can knock down spot 3s, think the game at a high level and defend his position.
P.J. Washington PF - Kentucky (RED FLAG ALERT)
Pre-Draft Analysis
Washington compares physically to Rudy Gay, Jerami Grant, and Kawhi Leonard. Taking into account his athletic testing results brings up the name Noah Vonleh as his top comp.
Washington has enviable physical tools and will almost certainly hear his name called in the first round if he can find a way to use his tremendous measurements to better perform defensively and on the glass, which didn't happen consistently enough as a freshman.
Brandon Clarke PF - Gonzaga
Pre-Draft Analysis
The 22-year-old transfer is outstanding as a pogo-stick shot-blocker and finisher who also shows enough as a passer and perimeter shooter to pique the interest of NBA teams. His energy really sets the tone, and his switch ability and shot-blocking make him a perfect fit in the modern NBA. Clarke could very well earn NBA sleeper status, with teams dubbing him a potential Jordan Bell-like modern big.
http://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable
I didn’t count Coby White, Rui Hachimura et cetera who I’ve seen plenty of already and wouldn’t mind drafting.
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New ESPN Mock Draft by Jonathan Givony released on SportsCenter With Scott Van Pelt:
1. Zion - Knicks
2. R.J. Barrett - Cavs
3. Ja Morant - Suns
4. Darius Garland - Bulls
5. De'Andre Hunter - Hawks
6. Cam Reddish - Grizzlies
7. Jarrett Culver - Hawks (From Dallas)
8. Sekou Doumbouya - Wizards
9. Jaxson Hayes - Pelicans
10. Romeo Langford - Lakers
Little (unc) fell to #17 to the Pistons.
1. Zion - Knicks
2. R.J. Barrett - Cavs
3. Ja Morant - Suns
4. Darius Garland - Bulls
5. De'Andre Hunter - Hawks
6. Cam Reddish - Grizzlies
7. Jarrett Culver - Hawks (From Dallas)
8. Sekou Doumbouya - Wizards
9. Jaxson Hayes - Pelicans
10. Romeo Langford - Lakers
Little (unc) fell to #17 to the Pistons.
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TheKingofSting wrote:New ESPN Mock Draft by Jonathan Givony released on SportsCenter With Scott Van Pelt:
1. Zion - Knicks
2. R.J. Barrett - Cavs
3. Ja Morant - Suns
4. Darius Garland - Bulls
5. De'Andre Hunter - Hawks
6. Cam Reddish - Grizzlies
7. Jarrett Culver - Hawks (From Dallas)
8. Sekou Doumbouya - Wizards
9. Jaxson Hayes - Pelicans
10. Romeo Langford - Lakers
Little (unc) fell to #17 to the Pistons.
Culver, Garland, Bol Bol, and or Reddish are my wants at the spot we pick. I do NOT want Hacimara, or Little at all. Mixed feelings on Coby White and Langford. I’ll probably not pay attention to basketball next year if we do something stupid and draft Little.
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I've soured on little. Bol bol and hunter are 2 guys I wouldn't mind drafting.
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10 games to go in the season and we are 3 games out of an 8th seed......and 3 games out of the 6th overall pick in the draft.
We've proven since the ASB that we are a subpar team with one proven All-Star, franchise player, and a bunch of miscast inconsistent players.
I hope we play more of Monk, Bacon, WHG, Bridges, Graham and Frank....sit guys like Marvin, Batum, and Parker. Let's fight into the top 6...and maybe we get a ping pong ball to bounce our way into the top-3. Zion is 1 overall, but I'd happily take Morant, Barrett or Hunter.
I really hope we don't go full LOLCats and go .500 with Monk on the bench and select ninth overall.
We've proven since the ASB that we are a subpar team with one proven All-Star, franchise player, and a bunch of miscast inconsistent players.
I hope we play more of Monk, Bacon, WHG, Bridges, Graham and Frank....sit guys like Marvin, Batum, and Parker. Let's fight into the top 6...and maybe we get a ping pong ball to bounce our way into the top-3. Zion is 1 overall, but I'd happily take Morant, Barrett or Hunter.
I really hope we don't go full LOLCats and go .500 with Monk on the bench and select ninth overall.
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Soul Rebel wrote:10 games to go in the season and we are 3 games out of an 8th seed......and 3 games out of the 6th overall pick in the draft.
We've proven since the ASB that we are a subpar team with one proven All-Star, franchise player, and a bunch of miscast inconsistent players.
I hope we play more of Monk, Bacon, WHG, Bridges, Graham and Frank....sit guys like Marvin, Batum, and Parker. Let's fight into the top 6...and maybe we get a ping pong ball to bounce our way into the top-3. Zion is 1 overall, but I'd happily take Morant, Barrett or Hunter.
I really hope we don't go full LOLCats and go .500 with Monk on the bench and select ninth overall.
Are you telling me you aren't excited about a Charlotte Hornets team featuring Nic Batum and the #12 pick in the 2019 NBA Draft?
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Lwcasu wrote:TheKingofSting wrote:New ESPN Mock Draft by Jonathan Givony released on SportsCenter With Scott Van Pelt:
1. Zion - Knicks
2. R.J. Barrett - Cavs
3. Ja Morant - Suns
4. Darius Garland - Bulls
5. De'Andre Hunter - Hawks
6. Cam Reddish - Grizzlies
7. Jarrett Culver - Hawks (From Dallas)
8. Sekou Doumbouya - Wizards
9. Jaxson Hayes - Pelicans
10. Romeo Langford - Lakers
Little (unc) fell to #17 to the Pistons.
Culver, Garland, Bol Bol, and or Reddish are my wants at the spot we pick. I do NOT want Hacimara, or Little at all. Mixed feelings on Coby White and Langford. I’ll probably not pay attention to basketball next year if we do something stupid and draft Little.
I am curious why you would be high on Reddish and low on Little at this point. Reddish I feel has shown even less in more opportunity that Little has. He is not caught on a experienced team behind seniors and he is much needed as a scorer and he has shot terribly all season. Both of them have had bad years overall but I still think I would go Little over Reddish at this point. Now there are a number of other players including White that I want over both but those two have had about equally as bad years.
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Reddish hasnt shot the ball that well this year, but the ability is definitely there. Little cant really shoot at all. I pass on both.
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Liver_Pooty wrote:Reddish hasnt shot the ball that well this year, but the ability is definitely there. Little cant really shoot at all. I pass on both.
I don't disagree with passing on both but Little has been better at more things than Reddish has this season. I personally want some players who have some positional flexibility and can play on both ends. I would like Hunter or White type of player around our pick.
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I want Ja Morant. Lottery gods have to help us, we've suffered far too long.
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Hey if Chicago got Rose and Cleveland got LeBron why can't the swing it so we can get Zion?
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Need to find a way to get both Reddick and Clarke (who is potentially another 'Collins' type prospect (talking about the draft position, obviously Collins is all about offense for now). But as much as i wish some decent two ways wing, i d rather have a really promising pf/c and Clarke has the potential to be special (on both ends). Maybe a Millsap ceiling is too high (his offense remains a work in progress) but he has the potential to be the best big from next season's roster even as a rookie.
And yes, even if the Hornets get one of the first two picks, i wish they consider trading to get two valuable first picks. Need more assets wether Kemba moves or not.
And yes, even if the Hornets get one of the first two picks, i wish they consider trading to get two valuable first picks. Need more assets wether Kemba moves or not.
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Clarke's last game against Baylor : 36pts (15/18 fg, 6/8 ft's), 8reb, 3assists, 5 bks...
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Id be a fan of White if we end up picking around 10, but its looking like he will be long gone by then.
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bravor wrote:Need to find a way to get both Reddick and Clarke (who is potentially another 'Collins' type prospect (talking about the draft position, obviously Collins is all about offense for now). But as much as i wish some decent two ways wing, i d rather have a really promising pf/c and Clarke has the potential to be special (on both ends). Maybe a Millsap ceiling is too high (his offense remains a work in progress) but he has the potential to be the best big from next season's roster even as a rookie.
And yes, even if the Hornets get one of the first two picks, i wish they consider trading to get two valuable first picks. Need more assets wether Kemba moves or not.
I disagree entirely. If we get the 1st or 2nd pick in this years draft then we BETTER keep it. This draft has talent all throughout it, but the talent at the top is unbelievable this year. You have Zion Williams who makes it look easy on a nightly basis. You have Ja Morant, whose vision and athleticism are incredible. Even if you look beyond that "tier" of player and we ended up with the number 3-5 pick we could potentially nab one of RJ Barrett, Rui Hachimura, or Coby White....
This years draft is just dripping with talent.
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These are my top five for who I want with pick #1 in order
BuB Carrington
Ryan Dunn
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Bobi Klintman
These are my top five for who I want with pick #1 in order
BuB Carrington
Ryan Dunn
Dalton Knect
Kevin McCullar
Bobi Klintman
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penquin11 wrote:bravor wrote:Need to find a way to get both Reddick and Clarke (who is potentially another 'Collins' type prospect (talking about the draft position, obviously Collins is all about offense for now). But as much as i wish some decent two ways wing, i d rather have a really promising pf/c and Clarke has the potential to be special (on both ends). Maybe a Millsap ceiling is too high (his offense remains a work in progress) but he has the potential to be the best big from next season's roster even as a rookie.
And yes, even if the Hornets get one of the first two picks, i wish they consider trading to get two valuable first picks. Need more assets wether Kemba moves or not.
I disagree entirely. If we get the 1st or 2nd pick in this years draft then we BETTER keep it. This draft has talent all throughout it, but the talent at the top is unbelievable this year. You have Zion Williams who makes it look easy on a nightly basis. You have Ja Morant, whose vision and athleticism are incredible. Even if you look beyond that "tier" of player and we ended up with the number 3-5 pick we could potentially nab one of RJ Barrett, Rui Hachimura, or Coby White....
This years draft is just dripping with talent.
Sure, i have no problem with your opinion, and to be in the minority hoping for the result i mentioned. But i really wish to see Clarke in a Hornet uniform and it won't happen unless they get another 1st pick