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personanongrata wrote:It's going to have to more than we got for Luka. Just a protected 1st is not commensurate of a player of this caliber.
We will probably get low balled because they know we aren't going to take him.
jayu70 wrote:First time I saw the name Ja Morant, my first thought went to Jorah Mormont (GoT). 22 Days!!
can’t wait!Spud2nique wrote:King Ken wrote:Spud2nique wrote:
You are almost convincing me. I will say he is a very smart player, I’m just worried that if we draft him that he’s a natural fit. Of course you CAN play anybody with Trae but which player will maximize their skills off Trae and vice versa.
For example, if Cam is running off screens and gunning threes in transition off crazy Nash/Stockton/White Chocolate passes by Trae or if we have 2 generals in Trae and RJ controlling an uptempo style but not necessarily bringing out each other’s maximum potentials?
I’m a definite NO on Morant. I can’t see Westbrook in this kid. I see a more aggressive Sexton and I hate that.
I see what you are saying with maximizing Trae's skills. I just think you need to protect him on defense at the 5. The 5 will always be the most important player for Trae or the 4. The reason why is because that player needs to be a rim protector, defend in space, able to protect Collins, and still good enough to screen well and play the PnR well. PnP is not needed as much although having a center who can shoot threes would be nice.
Cam is going to need a lot of time. He is very raw. That said, his ceiling is crazy good. Maybe higher than R.J. but you need just as much for him and more than you did for Trae. Cam will need a quality vet in front of him. He will need to learn how to play the position in the NBA. For the PG talk, PG learned from a NBA All Star in Danny Granger. You need that guy so he can be an understudy. I believe you rush Cam and he will be a bust.
I believe Trae and R.J. will be just as effective. Just in different ways. Also, we have to remember, no one in amateur basketball is as good in transition as R.J. is. No one. R.J. is a great fit. He is not the perfect fit like Cam at his max is but Cam at his max will take a lot of work and GMing and it's not just on Hawks University either which R.J. is just plug and play like Hunter. You don't need to add batteries or get extra parts to make it work.
I love Ja. I was higher on him as a prospect than Trae but potentially, I see them the same. Ja isn't the scorer or shooter Trae is but Ja half court ability is tremendous with the PnR.
If Trae is a blend of Lillard/Nash/Zeke for me potentially, Ja is a blend of Westbrook/Fox/Schroeder with a better floor game and court vision than these three as a prospect but lacking the ball hawk abilities or defensive intensity of those guys as prospects. I like him passing vision a lot. If you don't like Westbrook, Dennis, or Fox, there is a chance you might not like Morant. His decision making skills is questionable. His shooting form is like Dennis. His defensive effort is Dennis like. But his court vision is elite. His PnR skills is elite. His skill level is higher then those three as prospects. His ability to dominate the stat sheet will remind you of Westbrook and he is an elite athlete. I love him as a prospect. He is translatable for me. More than Trae was. I felt Trae needed to go to the right situation which will build around him, give him a vet to start over him or cut his mins and let him learn the NBA game. I felt we did all of that and we are now seeing the fruits of our labor. For Morant, I feel he can come in next year and give a team a major boost offensively. He is smart and knows how to run an offense. I think his potential is sky high like Trae's.
Nice breakdown soups. I do see RJ running n gunning in transition quite a bit. I wouldn’t be mad at the pick but it would be a more mysterious type of offense vs drafting Cam and knowing almost exactly what the game plan will be. RJ is the god son of Nash and has been groomed like Bagley almost all his life so no doubt he will transfer nicely to the pros.
Agree that Cam needs a couple years but we are playing the correct long championship rebuild and we have to be patient imo. But like you said, draft him but get him a vet like VC again to learn.
I keep watching Ja, I need more tape on this kid. I don’t love his game. He seems erratic, not super decisive or too decisive (doesn’t call audibles well his ego wants him to do what he initially wanted and I hate that..u gotta be able to change on the run). I need more everything from him.
jayu70 wrote:First time I saw the name Ja Morant, my first thought went to Jorah Mormont (GoT). 22 Days!!
kg01 wrote:jayu70 wrote:First time I saw the name Ja Morant, my first thought went to Jorah Mormont (GoT). 22 Days!!
You can't prove one isn't based on the other.
Spud2nique wrote:kg01 wrote:jayu70 wrote:First time I saw the name Ja Morant, my first thought went to Jorah Mormont (GoT). 22 Days!!
You can't prove one isn't based on the other.
I remember I clowned a friend for watching this and called him a war of Warcraft nerd...
I’m sorry, I was wrong. Now I want it back more than the aforementioned nerds...
kg01 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:kg01 wrote:
You can't prove one isn't based on the other.
I remember I clowned a friend for watching this and called him a war of Warcraft nerd...
I’m sorry, I was wrong. Now I want it back more than the aforementioned nerds...
You're eating crow wrong, @spud. 'Sposed to say how wrong you were but you still think it's a nerd show. (Huh?)
Our boy saphron eats crow like this lady eats tacos ... all the way wrong ...Spoiler:
(You still my boy, saphron.)
I thought Soth was vegan? No? Is that a tofu taco? Spud2nique wrote:kg01 wrote:Spud2nique wrote:
I remember I clowned a friend for watching this and called him a war of Warcraft nerd...
I’m sorry, I was wrong. Now I want it back more than the aforementioned nerds...
You're eating crow wrong, @spud. 'Sposed to say how wrong you were but you still think it's a nerd show. (Huh?)
Our boy saphron eats crow like this lady eats tacos ... all the way wrong ...Spoiler:
(You still my boy, saphron.)
Oh man I have to eat crow for GOT and also Ja Morant. Based on his performance yesterday, my assessment of him was off.
I’ll take my crow in a shake. It’s easier and faster to get it down..
3..2..1 (that’s what she said gif)..
Jamaaliver wrote:how IS TACKO FALL NOT SEEN AS AN option in the 2nd round based on size alone?
personanongrata wrote:I don't know much about him. But often freakishly tall guys can't run the floor very well and aren't good shooters.
personanongrata wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:I'm not in favor of us keeping this kid, but he's clearly very talented and would be a huge asset to acquire. If we get the #2 pick, we could essentially auction him off to the highest bidder -- and reap a fortune in return.The RingerThe Winners and Losers From Day 1 of the NCAA Tournament: Ja Rules, But Where Are the Buzzer-Beaters?
Ja Morant’s triple-double proved he belongs in March Madness. But it was a bad day for Monts and exciting finishes
Winner: Ja Morant
On Thursday, Ja ruled. Despite only taking nine shots, Morant dominated in 12-seed Murray State’s 83-64 demolition of 5-seed Marquette.
Morant had 17 points, 16 assists, and 11 rebounds, becoming just the 12th player to record a triple-double in the NCAA tournament, joining a list that includes Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson, Shaquille O’Neal, Dwyane Wade, and Draymond Green. (The NCAA doesn’t recognize Robertson and Johnson because triple-doubles were not recorded until blocks and steals became official stats in the 1980s.) Morant’s vision and passing were the highlights of the game—his 16 assists are tied for fourth most in tournament history.
Ja has now played three games against major-conference competition this season, and he’s averaging 26.7 points, 9.3 assists, and 9.3 rebounds. He thinks he can do better.
It's going to have to more than we got for Luka. Just a protected 1st is not commensurate of a player of this caliber. We will probably get low balled because they know we aren't going to take him.
King Ken wrote:personanongrata wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:I'm not in favor of us keeping this kid, but he's clearly very talented and would be a huge asset to acquire. If we get the #2 pick, we could essentially auction him off to the highest bidder -- and reap a fortune in return.
The Ringer
It's going to have to more than we got for Luka. Just a protected 1st is not commensurate of a player of this caliber. We will probably get low balled because they know we aren't going to take him.
Honestly, we wasn't willing to move that far back unless we got major assets. Just because of the need of teams in our range. We could get a better haul for Ja than we got for Luka.
I want a top 5 pick in return and Wendell Carter Jr. Or Mikal Bridges. I still want to keep our Dallas pick.
Syracuse junior guard Tyus Battle is leaving the Orange to enter the 2019 NBA draft, according to Syracuse.com.
It was expected that Battle would enter the draft after this season, which ended for Syracuse on Thursday after falling 78–69 to Baylor in the first round of the NCAA tournament. Battle scored 16 points with three assists and two rebounds in the loss.
The 6'6" guard has led the Orange in scoring the past two seasons, averaging 17.2 per game this season and 19.2 last year.
He ranks No. 68 on Sports Illustrated's Jeremy Woo's 2019 NBA draft Big Board.
LunchBox21 wrote:Big game Culver
Jamaaliver wrote:how IS TACKO FALL NOT SEEN AS AN option in the 2nd round based on size alone?
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