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Maybe he should take more from the court during practice, rather than the seats. 4 for 16 from 3, last 3 games.
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Donovan Mitchell? Or, Ben Simmons?
This time one year ago, these players and their fan hives were wrangling over rights to the Rookie of the Year trophy. Now, the pair’s one commonality is they could both catch an L this week at State Farm Arena, at the hands of rookie phenom Trae Young and the Atlanta Hawks.
With a little help from Joel Embiid this time around, Simmons will do what he can to keep his Philadelphia 76ers from coming up short against the Hawks (7:30 PM Eastern, Fox Sports Southeast and 92.9 FM in ATL, NBC Sports Philadelphia, NBATV elsewhere).
Getting on the soapbox on my lawn, the thing with NBA rookies in this day-and-age is, there’s no tolerance for a growth curve. If readiness were truly a virtue, we’d have 23-year-old pre-med students going top-ten at Draft time, after several years of Tom Izzo bloodying their eardrums. Rather, we have come to expect -- no, demand -- that first-year guys, especially the top draftees, jump fresh out the box as complete packages, generational talents from the first professional tipoff.
I’m perfectly satisfied with classifying Trae as ROY-Adjacent. I consider Young’s candidacy for the ultimate neophyte accolade to be closer to DeAndre Ayton’s than to Lu Know Who’s. That the exploits of the top two potential honorees have managed to obscure the league’s most recent first-overall pick, a seven-foot center, should be impressive to many. But, no.
Having outlasted critics of his performances versus increasingly tougher collegiate competition, one group of supporters feels concerned that Their Guy isn’t getting enough love for his, and his team’s, season-long improvement. Having stuck it to those once unimpressed by his stat lines and highlights versus Glasnost BC, another group is incensed that the ROY race isn’t as unanimous for Their Guy as it once seemed.
At least Trae and his most notorious rookie comp, the pair traded essentially for one another on Draft Night 2018, have remained cordial, although appropriately confident, throughout the season about the whole situation. “This rookie class is deep,” Young responded during a Yahoo! Sports podcast, while name-checking several lottery rivals who each have had a “really good year.” “But, at the same time,” Trae was sure to add, “I feel like I’m the best one in it.”
Trae has been wise enough not to cast aspersions on how people not named Trae should feel. Conversely? “Who would I pick? Me, 100 percent,” Simmons crowed as last season winded down, his Hawk-infused Sixers finishing the year on a 16-win fastbreak. He added an inferential diss: “People who know the game know.”
But a lot of people who professed to know the game decided it was suddenly a good time to press for clarity on what the definition of “Is (a rookie)” is, perhaps a year too late for Embiid (where have you gone, Dario Saric?). Many of them preferred to award a 2018 Draftee in Mitchell, a not-former-#1-overall pick who was more than happy to oblige with a trollful hoodie, courtesy of a rival shoe company, helpfully “defining” the R-word for the flame-fanners.
Sweating Donovan’s sweatshirt, Simmons parked his train at Petty-coat Junction and tooted his own horn. “If [Mitchell’s] argument is, I’m not a rookie, if that’s the only argument he has, I’m in pretty good shape then.” Simmons’ compelling argument is he was able to do things few, if any, players had done in their maiden campaigns. Philly’s Process-ending run, in his mind, was merely an extra cherry on his award-winning sundae.
“You obviously know,” Ben responded to media here, after beating the Hawks late last year, “what I have been doing isn’t something many people in the league, or have been in the league, have ever done.”
Just over a year ago, the author of the greatest rookie runs in the history of pro sports called up Trae Young, then a soon-to-be-pro on the Sooners. Oscar Robertson, according to Young, shared with him, “how much he loved my game, how he enjoyed watching me play. He gave me a lot of encouragement, stuff like that.”
This month, Trae joined The Big O as the only rooks in NBA history with consecutive 35-point, 10-assist games. Earlier this year, he joined Robertson and Jason Kidd as the only rookies to have at least 25 points and 17 assists in the same game. Months later, against a playoff-bound team, he was the only rookie to score 30 points, shoot over 70 percent from the floor with at least five made treys, and dish out at least 8 assists.
Young is, indeed, doing things many people in the league, past or present, have never done in The Association. If being persistently in elite company is Simmons’, and Young’s, only argument, then Trae ought to get at least a few votes from thoughtful sportswriters as this regular season draws to a close. Can he at least get a Mention that is genuinely Honorable?
That’s saying nothing of his ordinary, 6-foot-2, 180-pound point guard frame that is dwarfed by Simmons, currently checking in with an extra eight inches of height and 50 pounds to lug around. That’s ignoring Young’s inability, relative to his top likely co-finalist, to spend more than a few precious seconds off-ball, allowing veterans to do whatever they think they can accomplish offensively.
But part of what is incomplete about incoming rookies should be what tantalizes fans, and voters. Imagine if Giannis ever hones his jumper. Imagine, over time, if Young and Ayton figure out how to guard a Barcalounger. Should on-ball and team defensive shortcomings be held against rookies on lottery squads? Well, then, congratulations in advance to Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.
Imagine if, in his second season, Simmons would do significantly better than 0-for-11 on threes, and 56.0 percent from the free throw line. Neither factor distracted voters from his unique brand of triple-double trouble. Now that he has the Eddie Gottlieb Trophy in hand, Simmons hasn’t felt any rush to convert your dreams into reality (0-for-4 3FGs in 71 games, 60.3 FT%).
Thanks in part to the addition of a pair of ex-Hawks, a 16-game winning sprint lifted Philadelphia’s spirits as they surged in time for the 2018 Playoffs. Now, another 16-game closing run is possible for coach Brett Brown’s club, this time with the aid of Mike Scott, acquired before the Deadline in a deal involving another ex-Hawk, Mike Muscala.
The deadline deals brought Scott’s Clipper teammates Tobias Harris and Boban Marjanovic into the fold, along with Jonathon Simmons from Orlando and James Ennis from Detroit. On this fortified roster, virtually everyone is healthy for this final charge. And their current six-game streak includes wins over their top challengers in the East – at home versus Indy, in Milwaukee, and this past Wednesday versus Boston, a couple days allowing for rest ahead of tonight’s action.
Like Mitchell’s team learned the hard way, and as Simmons should have learned back in January, the Sixers (47-25) can’t throw their recent fortunes out there and sleepwalk through a Hawks game in hopes that Atlanta (25-48) will comply.
Philadelphia had won four of five, and visiting Atlanta had lost five of six, when these teams last met on January 11. The Sixers were without Embiid, but the Taurean Prince-less Hawks starters kept the hosts off-balance throughout the game. Kevin Huerter’s 14 points and a pair of crucial assists in the final frame helped Atlanta escape Philly with the 123-121 victory.
The Sixers’ new acquisition (at the time) Jimmy Butler’s 30 points, and Simmons’ triple-double (23 points, 15 assists, 10 rebounds) were not enough. But Atlanta will need more cohesive bench production to keep up, tonight and on April 3 in the rematch here. The Hawks’ reserves outpointed Utah 40-23 along the way to winning Thursday night’s thriller, 117-114.
With Embiid back and proclaiming himself the Most Unstoppable Player, now that he has solved the Riddle of the Horford, coach Lloyd Pierce will need his bigs staying at home, rotating sufficiently to keep foul problems from becoming an issue.
As he gets help defensively on switches for Simmons, Trae will need to shield JJ Redick from collecting easy catch-and-shoot and spot-up opportunities. The more circus shots by Embiid and Simmons, the more the Hawks can run and keep Butler on his heels as a defensive midfielder.
I’m just happy there’s no Sophomore of the Year Award to dole out. John Collins would have plenty more online haters and TV-show detractors right now. After all, the Ben Simmons Hive needs a new foil.
Let’s Go Hawks!
~lw3
This time one year ago, these players and their fan hives were wrangling over rights to the Rookie of the Year trophy. Now, the pair’s one commonality is they could both catch an L this week at State Farm Arena, at the hands of rookie phenom Trae Young and the Atlanta Hawks.
With a little help from Joel Embiid this time around, Simmons will do what he can to keep his Philadelphia 76ers from coming up short against the Hawks (7:30 PM Eastern, Fox Sports Southeast and 92.9 FM in ATL, NBC Sports Philadelphia, NBATV elsewhere).
Getting on the soapbox on my lawn, the thing with NBA rookies in this day-and-age is, there’s no tolerance for a growth curve. If readiness were truly a virtue, we’d have 23-year-old pre-med students going top-ten at Draft time, after several years of Tom Izzo bloodying their eardrums. Rather, we have come to expect -- no, demand -- that first-year guys, especially the top draftees, jump fresh out the box as complete packages, generational talents from the first professional tipoff.
I’m perfectly satisfied with classifying Trae as ROY-Adjacent. I consider Young’s candidacy for the ultimate neophyte accolade to be closer to DeAndre Ayton’s than to Lu Know Who’s. That the exploits of the top two potential honorees have managed to obscure the league’s most recent first-overall pick, a seven-foot center, should be impressive to many. But, no.
Having outlasted critics of his performances versus increasingly tougher collegiate competition, one group of supporters feels concerned that Their Guy isn’t getting enough love for his, and his team’s, season-long improvement. Having stuck it to those once unimpressed by his stat lines and highlights versus Glasnost BC, another group is incensed that the ROY race isn’t as unanimous for Their Guy as it once seemed.
At least Trae and his most notorious rookie comp, the pair traded essentially for one another on Draft Night 2018, have remained cordial, although appropriately confident, throughout the season about the whole situation. “This rookie class is deep,” Young responded during a Yahoo! Sports podcast, while name-checking several lottery rivals who each have had a “really good year.” “But, at the same time,” Trae was sure to add, “I feel like I’m the best one in it.”
Trae has been wise enough not to cast aspersions on how people not named Trae should feel. Conversely? “Who would I pick? Me, 100 percent,” Simmons crowed as last season winded down, his Hawk-infused Sixers finishing the year on a 16-win fastbreak. He added an inferential diss: “People who know the game know.”
But a lot of people who professed to know the game decided it was suddenly a good time to press for clarity on what the definition of “Is (a rookie)” is, perhaps a year too late for Embiid (where have you gone, Dario Saric?). Many of them preferred to award a 2018 Draftee in Mitchell, a not-former-#1-overall pick who was more than happy to oblige with a trollful hoodie, courtesy of a rival shoe company, helpfully “defining” the R-word for the flame-fanners.
Sweating Donovan’s sweatshirt, Simmons parked his train at Petty-coat Junction and tooted his own horn. “If [Mitchell’s] argument is, I’m not a rookie, if that’s the only argument he has, I’m in pretty good shape then.” Simmons’ compelling argument is he was able to do things few, if any, players had done in their maiden campaigns. Philly’s Process-ending run, in his mind, was merely an extra cherry on his award-winning sundae.
“You obviously know,” Ben responded to media here, after beating the Hawks late last year, “what I have been doing isn’t something many people in the league, or have been in the league, have ever done.”
Just over a year ago, the author of the greatest rookie runs in the history of pro sports called up Trae Young, then a soon-to-be-pro on the Sooners. Oscar Robertson, according to Young, shared with him, “how much he loved my game, how he enjoyed watching me play. He gave me a lot of encouragement, stuff like that.”
This month, Trae joined The Big O as the only rooks in NBA history with consecutive 35-point, 10-assist games. Earlier this year, he joined Robertson and Jason Kidd as the only rookies to have at least 25 points and 17 assists in the same game. Months later, against a playoff-bound team, he was the only rookie to score 30 points, shoot over 70 percent from the floor with at least five made treys, and dish out at least 8 assists.
Young is, indeed, doing things many people in the league, past or present, have never done in The Association. If being persistently in elite company is Simmons’, and Young’s, only argument, then Trae ought to get at least a few votes from thoughtful sportswriters as this regular season draws to a close. Can he at least get a Mention that is genuinely Honorable?
That’s saying nothing of his ordinary, 6-foot-2, 180-pound point guard frame that is dwarfed by Simmons, currently checking in with an extra eight inches of height and 50 pounds to lug around. That’s ignoring Young’s inability, relative to his top likely co-finalist, to spend more than a few precious seconds off-ball, allowing veterans to do whatever they think they can accomplish offensively.
But part of what is incomplete about incoming rookies should be what tantalizes fans, and voters. Imagine if Giannis ever hones his jumper. Imagine, over time, if Young and Ayton figure out how to guard a Barcalounger. Should on-ball and team defensive shortcomings be held against rookies on lottery squads? Well, then, congratulations in advance to Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.
Imagine if, in his second season, Simmons would do significantly better than 0-for-11 on threes, and 56.0 percent from the free throw line. Neither factor distracted voters from his unique brand of triple-double trouble. Now that he has the Eddie Gottlieb Trophy in hand, Simmons hasn’t felt any rush to convert your dreams into reality (0-for-4 3FGs in 71 games, 60.3 FT%).
Thanks in part to the addition of a pair of ex-Hawks, a 16-game winning sprint lifted Philadelphia’s spirits as they surged in time for the 2018 Playoffs. Now, another 16-game closing run is possible for coach Brett Brown’s club, this time with the aid of Mike Scott, acquired before the Deadline in a deal involving another ex-Hawk, Mike Muscala.
The deadline deals brought Scott’s Clipper teammates Tobias Harris and Boban Marjanovic into the fold, along with Jonathon Simmons from Orlando and James Ennis from Detroit. On this fortified roster, virtually everyone is healthy for this final charge. And their current six-game streak includes wins over their top challengers in the East – at home versus Indy, in Milwaukee, and this past Wednesday versus Boston, a couple days allowing for rest ahead of tonight’s action.
Like Mitchell’s team learned the hard way, and as Simmons should have learned back in January, the Sixers (47-25) can’t throw their recent fortunes out there and sleepwalk through a Hawks game in hopes that Atlanta (25-48) will comply.
Philadelphia had won four of five, and visiting Atlanta had lost five of six, when these teams last met on January 11. The Sixers were without Embiid, but the Taurean Prince-less Hawks starters kept the hosts off-balance throughout the game. Kevin Huerter’s 14 points and a pair of crucial assists in the final frame helped Atlanta escape Philly with the 123-121 victory.
The Sixers’ new acquisition (at the time) Jimmy Butler’s 30 points, and Simmons’ triple-double (23 points, 15 assists, 10 rebounds) were not enough. But Atlanta will need more cohesive bench production to keep up, tonight and on April 3 in the rematch here. The Hawks’ reserves outpointed Utah 40-23 along the way to winning Thursday night’s thriller, 117-114.
With Embiid back and proclaiming himself the Most Unstoppable Player, now that he has solved the Riddle of the Horford, coach Lloyd Pierce will need his bigs staying at home, rotating sufficiently to keep foul problems from becoming an issue.
As he gets help defensively on switches for Simmons, Trae will need to shield JJ Redick from collecting easy catch-and-shoot and spot-up opportunities. The more circus shots by Embiid and Simmons, the more the Hawks can run and keep Butler on his heels as a defensive midfielder.
I’m just happy there’s no Sophomore of the Year Award to dole out. John Collins would have plenty more online haters and TV-show detractors right now. After all, the Ben Simmons Hive needs a new foil.
Let’s Go Hawks!
~lw3
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Night Traen wrote:jayu70 wrote:?s=20
Maybe he should take more from the court during practice, rather than the seats. 4 for 16 from 3, last 3 games.
You sound like one of those Luka worshipers! LOL!
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My name is Luka
I live on the second floor
I live upstairs from Trae
LUKA FOR LIFFFFFFFFFEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
I live on the second floor
I live upstairs from Trae
LUKA FOR LIFFFFFFFFFEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
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lethalweapon3 wrote:Imagine if, in his second season, Simmons would do significantly better than 0-for-11 on threes, and 56.0 percent from the free throw line. Neither factor distracted voters from his unique brand of triple-double trouble. Now that he has the Eddie Gottlieb Trophy in hand, Simmons hasn’t felt any rush to convert your dreams into reality (0-for-4 3FGs in 71 games, 60.3 FT%).
Your posts always present a treasure or two if readers are willing to put in the time to find them. I had no idea these two stats were this bad for BS. Thanks for the work you put into these posts.
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BOBAN! "C'mon, Ben, shoot a three, you..."
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We are meh without Trae but with Trae, we good
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17 freethrows for Sixers in 1st quarter, smh.
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Trae’s energy on defense is picking up. Bembry been sharing some of that CRACK
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Trae is a beast!
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Over/under Luka puts up over 10 shots in the 1st half of the Dallas game.
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Night Traen wrote:My name is Luka
I live on the second floor
I live upstairs from Trae
LUKA FOR LIFFFFFFFFFEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
Yeah....go back to the Luka club. The is the Trae Skymiles Club.
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It’s becoming apparent to me that Trae is pretty damn hard to gameplan for. What do you do with a guy pumping defenders from 30 feet and driving to perfect depth for a rim-friendly floater? Nothing.
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Trae with 21 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds at the Half!
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this sucks, the hawks are gonna let’s the mavs get into the top 5 if they keep winning.