Maybe told him to go to LA and don’t make the same mistake he did
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Maybe Paul George regrets staying in OKC seeing as they’re now the 8th seed and losing ton of games heading into the playoffs?
Maybe told him to go to LA and don’t make the same mistake he did
Maybe told him to go to LA and don’t make the same mistake he did
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With 8 games left in their season, Kawhi has played 54 games.
This is supposed to get better in LAC with a $150 million+ contract?
This is supposed to get better in LAC with a $150 million+ contract?
“I’ve always felt that drafting is the life blood of any organization.” - Jerome Alan West.
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Quake Griffin wrote:With 8 games left in their season, Kawhi has played 54 games.
This is supposed to get better in LAC with a $150 million+ contract?
These UFA have so many personality issues. They are like the opposite of the current Clippers.
I would not touch Butler or Irving with a 10 foot pole.
KL and AD also seem to have some issues albeit less than Butler and Irving.
My eyes glaze over when reading alternative stat (not advanced stat) narratives that go many paragraphs long. If you can not make your point in 2 paragraphs it may not be a great point. 
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Galloisdaman wrote:Quake Griffin wrote:With 8 games left in their season, Kawhi has played 54 games.
This is supposed to get better in LAC with a $150 million+ contract?
These UFA have so many personality issues. They are like the opposite of the current Clippers.
I would not touch Butler or Irving with a 10 foot pole.
KL and AD also seem to have some issues albeit less than Butler and Irving.
The juice may not be worth the squeeze.
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Quake Griffin wrote:With 8 games left in their season, Kawhi has played 54 games.
This is supposed to get better in LAC with a $150 million+ contract?
I think it's been Toronto's idea to hold him out of games, to recreate the Popovich experience of resting for the playoffs, while avoiding any possible pressure to play that turned Kawhi against the Spurs organization. They've done EVERYTHING they can to sweeten the pot.
Kawhi has been fine with it. Whether it's to accept the rest in hopes of being stronger for the Raptors' postseason or just letting them keep his wear and tear down so Kawhi can be healthy for free agency this summer, nobody knows.
Nobody has the slightest idea what Kawhi thinks. I'm hoping he's not as weird as he seems. Everybody thought Bryce Harper was a d*ck and a bit of a psycho but once he signed on the dotted line with the Phillies, he's been a cross between Rocky and Abraham Lincoln.
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Will be SO STOKED to be able to get a #Kawhi Clippers jersey. What # will he wear?? SGA is #2
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LakerClipperFan wrote:Will be SO STOKED to be able to get a #Kawhi Clippers jersey. What # will he wear?? SGA is #2
SGA could go back to his college number 22.
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Galloisdaman wrote:Quake Griffin wrote:With 8 games left in their season, Kawhi has played 54 games.
This is supposed to get better in LAC with a $150 million+ contract?
These UFA have so many personality issues. They are like the opposite of the current Clippers.
I would not touch Butler or Irving with a 10 foot pole.
KL and AD also seem to have some issues albeit less than Butler and Irving.
I agree. I wouldn't mind Randle with Kawhi. He played with Zubac and Lou and I'm sure he's cool with SGA (Kentucky ties).
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Galloisdaman wrote:Quake Griffin wrote:With 8 games left in their season, Kawhi has played 54 games.
This is supposed to get better in LAC with a $150 million+ contract?
These UFA have so many personality issues. They are like the opposite of the current Clippers.
I would not touch Butler or Irving with a 10 foot pole.
KL and AD also seem to have some issues albeit less than Butler and Irving.
Celtics are better when Kyrie doesn't play Butler has been cancer in the locker room
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oldshoolballer wrote:Galloisdaman wrote:Quake Griffin wrote:With 8 games left in their season, Kawhi has played 54 games.
This is supposed to get better in LAC with a $150 million+ contract?
These UFA have so many personality issues. They are like the opposite of the current Clippers.
I would not touch Butler or Irving with a 10 foot pole.
KL and AD also seem to have some issues albeit less than Butler and Irving.
Celtics are better when Kyrie doesn't play Butler has been cancer in the locker room
I do not know the teams records but I'm not shocked. Its a shame their personalities are an issue. I think it could effect their demand as UFA.
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Galloisdaman wrote:Quake Griffin wrote:With 8 games left in their season, Kawhi has played 54 games.
This is supposed to get better in LAC with a $150 million+ contract?
These UFA have so many personality issues. They are like the opposite of the current Clippers.
I would not touch Butler or Irving with a 10 foot pole.
KL and AD also seem to have some issues albeit less than Butler and Irving.
Kawhi is worth it. He's a legit franchise player who's inspired the Raptors team to ball as hard as possible even when he sits out. The team knows theyre a legit contender with Kawhi, not like the constant pretender days when DeRozan was their franchise face.
I wouldnt be surprised if Doc and the Logo convinces Kawhi to split the difference and play like 70 games to keep general wear and tear down if its Kawhi who's insisting on resting so much. If that's the case then its key to get a good backup SF who can star when Kawhi is on his "load management" program.
Kyrie and Butler are both pure cancer. Totally not worth signing them unless signing Kyrie GUARANTEES KD coming to town to join him. That's pretty much the ONLY situation where it justifies signing Kyrie and even then i still gotta think about it and want to try my damndest to convince KD that Kawhi is a MUCH better running mate.
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I agree. I wouldn't mind Randle with Kawhi. He played with Zubac and Lou and I'm sure he's cool with SGA (Kentucky ties).
Hell no on Randle when you already got Montrelz Harrell. Unless Randle signs a 4 year 40 mil deal with a 4th year team option, even then he might not still be worth it. He's a fool's gold stat padder who doesnt play winning basketball.
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VV--with the Clippers' new emphasis on character you might be onto something here
I'm not ready to call anyone a cancer or a stat padder, but nobody's ever accused these guys of being leaders
I'm not ready to call anyone a cancer or a stat padder, but nobody's ever accused these guys of being leaders
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esqtvd wrote:VV--with the Clippers' new emphasis on character you might be onto something here
I'm not ready to call anyone a cancer or a stat padder, but nobody's ever accused these guys of being leaders
Yea cancer is a harsh term. But when BOS looked 5x better when Kyrie was out and they went to the ECF Game 7 without him (and Hayward) it's pretty goddamn damning indictment on his impact on winning and chemistry. Great stats dont mean **** if team results dont follow.
Butler i just see all the drama that followed him from the Bulls, TPups, and now Philly, and i know that the problem lies with him and not all of those franchises. If i'm the Logo im not gonna risk Butler blowing up team chemistry. Right now the Clips are rolling and they're basically playing with only half of the cap on the court. Now imagine how'd they do with them spending the whole cap on the court.
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Galloisdaman wrote:Quake Griffin wrote:With 8 games left in their season, Kawhi has played 54 games.
This is supposed to get better in LAC with a $150 million+ contract?
These UFA have so many personality issues. They are like the opposite of the current Clippers.
I would not touch Butler or Irving with a 10 foot pole.
KL and AD also seem to have some issues albeit less than Butler and Irving.
I would love to see the Clippers sign either KL or KD, but I am hesitant at the idea of dumping good contracts to make room for a second max, I'd like to preserve as much of the current players and team culture as possible. If we had to trade Gallo and let Beverly and Zubac go just to make room for say Jimmy Butler, I don't want that. I don't mind if our upside is a bit less.
If we hypothetically added KD to this current team which is on pace for almost 50 wins, there's no way we're not a top contender in the West next year (especially since that means GSW loses KD.)
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madmaxmedia wrote:Galloisdaman wrote:Quake Griffin wrote:With 8 games left in their season, Kawhi has played 54 games.
This is supposed to get better in LAC with a $150 million+ contract?
These UFA have so many personality issues. They are like the opposite of the current Clippers.
I would not touch Butler or Irving with a 10 foot pole.
KL and AD also seem to have some issues albeit less than Butler and Irving.
I would love to see the Clippers sign either KL or KD, but I am hesitant at the idea of dumping good contracts to make room for a second max, I'd like to preserve as much of the current players and team culture as possible. If we had to trade Gallo and let Beverly and Zubac go just to make room for say Jimmy Butler, I don't want that. I don't mind if our upside is a bit less.
If we hypothetically added KD to this current team which is on pace for almost 50 wins, there's no way we're not a top contender in the West next year (especially since that means GSW loses KD.)
KD is a huge get for any team. KD has actually shown a lot of respect for Gallo in the past.
In regards to Butler I know "the grass is often greener on the other side of the street" but hypothetically swap him in the lineup for Gallo this season. How much have you gained?
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Galloisdaman wrote:madmaxmedia wrote:Galloisdaman wrote:
These UFA have so many personality issues. They are like the opposite of the current Clippers.
I would not touch Butler or Irving with a 10 foot pole.
KL and AD also seem to have some issues albeit less than Butler and Irving.
I would love to see the Clippers sign either KL or KD, but I am hesitant at the idea of dumping good contracts to make room for a second max, I'd like to preserve as much of the current players and team culture as possible. If we had to trade Gallo and let Beverly and Zubac go just to make room for say Jimmy Butler, I don't want that. I don't mind if our upside is a bit less.
If we hypothetically added KD to this current team which is on pace for almost 50 wins, there's no way we're not a top contender in the West next year (especially since that means GSW loses KD.)
KD is a huge get for any team. KD has actually shown a lot of respect for Gallo in the past.
In regards to Butler I know "the grass is often greener on the other side of the street" but hypothetically swap him in the lineup for Gallo this season. How much have you gained?
I agree with your point, I don't think we gain that much. Provided he is relatively healthy (which is a concern but has gone really well this year), Danilo is on a very good contract for us.
I think team construction has become a little too simplified the last few years with the idea that you slash your payroll to grab 2-3 superstars at any cost, then fill out the roster the best you can with whatever best fitting cheap parts you can find. I mean that can work if you are lucky enough to have 2 or 3 true superstars, but for 90% of the league that's not happening anyway.
So then you go back to the basics, assembling a starting lineup of complementary pieces to fill different needs, and assembling a bench as well that complements your starters. And always looking to improve fit or quality all the way down the roster, with an eye on good value contracts. It's easy to find lists of upcoming free agents, but that's not nearly the only way to improve- there are always opportunities, the Clippers have made so many positive value moves over the last couple of years that don't involve a big free agent signing. And who knows, our next big trade may involve trading for the 1 big piece, rather than trading away.
Right now we do not have even a single 'superstar', yet we are much better than average because of everything else. I am pretty certain the FO didn't build this roster this way, only to try to tear it down to clear up cap space for free agents. I'm not saying we shouldn't make moves, but right now the Laker FO is playing checkers while the Clipper FO is playing chess.
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I would love to see the Clippers sign either KL or KD, but I am hesitant at the idea of dumping good contracts to make room for a second max, I'd like to preserve as much of the current players and team culture as possible. If we had to trade Gallo and let Beverly and Zubac go just to make room for say Jimmy Butler, I don't want that. I don't mind if our upside is a bit less.
If we hypothetically added KD to this current team which is on pace for almost 50 wins, there's no way we're not a top contender in the West next year (especially since that means GSW loses KD.)
KD is a huge get for any team. KD has actually shown a lot of respect for Gallo in the past.
In regards to Butler I know "the grass is often greener on the other side of the street" but hypothetically swap him in the lineup for Gallo this season. How much have you gained?
I agree with your point, I don't think we gain that much. Provided he is relatively healthy (which is a concern but has gone really well this year), Danilo is on a very good contract for us.
I think team construction has become a little too simplified the last few years with the idea that you slash your payroll to grab 2-3 superstars at any cost, then fill out the roster the best you can with whatever best fitting cheap parts you can find. I mean that can work if you are lucky enough to have 2 or 3 true superstars, but for 90% of the league that's not happening anyway.
So then you go back to the basics, assembling a starting lineup of complementary pieces to fill different needs, and assembling a bench as well that complements your starters. And always looking to improve fit or quality all the way down the roster, with an eye on good value contracts. It's easy to find lists of upcoming free agents, but that's not nearly the only way to improve- there are always opportunities, the Clippers have made so many positive value moves over the last couple of years that don't involve a big free agent signing. And who knows, our next big trade may involve trading for the 1 big piece, rather than trading away.
Right now we do not have even a single 'superstar', yet we are much better than average because of everything else. I am pretty certain the FO didn't build this roster this way, only to try to tear it down to clear up cap space for free agents. I'm not saying we shouldn't make moves, but right now the Laker FO is playing checkers while the Clipper FO is playing chess.
Keep an eye on Philly. 3 all-stars plus Tobias plus JJ. And absolutely nothing else. Can you win with half a team?
Me, I'm scared of 2 superstars if it means losing guys like Pat Bev. I guess Gallo would have to go too. Lou too? Plus Zubac is a RFA. Green has been OK too and he's an UFA. Do we throw away this gutsy crew just to afford one more name?
If those 2 names are Kawhi and Durant, I guess you do. Otherwise...
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