Game 74: Los Angeles Clippers (43-30) @ New York Knicks (14-59) - 9:00 AM PT

[QRich3]

At center? Or at guard?

They were playing 3 guards so Wilson might start if Sham can not go.

The team has won basically 9-10 straight games outside of the game va Portland when Doc sat Luc

I do not think he will be making many unforced changes to the starting squad while winning. Zubac will start. Trezz will play more minutes though. Also Trezz is kind of joined at the hip with Lou. I would think Wilson or Temple if Sham sits out.

Guard I doubt they don’t play it safe with Shamet

All season we have heard how deep the Clippers were. I disagree with that notion. With Sham out who do you really have as a replacement at starter? Wallace who is often a DNP? Wilson (is he healthy)? Temple? Green? You asked a good question. I'm curious to see the answer as well.

It's probably gonna be a combination of Temple/Ty/Sin, but I wish they gave the spot to Jerome, just the same place in the rotation that Sham had before the injury. It'd probably cost us playoff positioning, but it's the sort of long term investment we need to be doing.

I agree with your larger point though, playing some of your best players from the bench is not the same thing as being a deep team, we depend on two/three guys for our whole offense, and if one of them goes down, our team goes from gritty playoff team with upside to easy sweep by any of the remaining 7 teams.

[Galloisdaman]

Guard I doubt they don’t play it safe with Shamet

All season we have heard how deep the Clippers were. I disagree with that notion. With Sham out who do you really have as a replacement at starter? Wallace who is often a DNP? Wilson (is he healthy)? Temple? Green? You asked a good question. I'm curious to see the answer as well.

It's probably gonna be a combination of Temple/Ty/Sin, but I wish they gave the spot to Jerome, just the same place in the rotation that Sham had before the injury. It'd probably cost us playoff positioning, but it's the sort of long term investment we need to be doing.

I agree with your larger point though, playing some of your best players from the bench is not the same thing as being a deep team, we depend on two/three guys for our whole offense, and if one of them goes down, our team goes from gritty playoff team with upside to easy sweep by any of the remaining 7 teams.

I'm so glad you see the issue. Lou and Trezz are great bench players but that does not mean the team is deep. Most teams have their best players in the starting lineup. I think once the playoff spot is locked it might be a good idea to give Rome some minutes just to see if he could help if needed in the playoffs. Once the playoffs start most coaches would usually only go 8-9 deep. I think this team is falling 1-2 guys short of that 8-9 number unless somebody steps up.

[TheNewEra]

We both know I do not put much faith in Plus/Minus but this is definitely a team of tiers IMO.

Tier 1: Gallo-Lou-Trezz
Tier 2: SGA-Sham-Bev
Tier 3: Everyone else

This team is not nearly as deep as some people say it is IMO.

Lol wondering where was +\- all those games that Zubac had a higher ratings these past games. Anyway this team has been impressive and even the tiers have a deeper story.

We don’t have the season we have if SGA doesn’t show the potential he did since preseason and we have to play Beverly and Bradley combo all year . Don’t get the defensive upgrade without Zu. Shooting of Shamet, toughness of Green and this team has been amazing

I think Zubac has helped based on his size alone. We were undersized too often previously. On a scale of 1-10 how would you guys rate Zubac as a defender?

Solid 71/2-8 and that’s more than enough only being 21 and needing to develop his body further. Shows good foot work and willingness to rotate and help. He’s not jumping and biting on a bunch of pump fakes when players attack and he’s tries to block the ball and keep it inbounds.

These little things we had to work to get out of DJ and that’s the bright spot of this being his 3rd season is if he was a rookie would would still have to wait for him to grasp the game. At this point he’s mid-form DJ of grasping at a younger age and that will only do wonders going forward.

[Galloisdaman]

All season we have heard how deep the Clippers were. I disagree with that notion. With Sham out who do you really have as a replacement at starter? Wallace who is often a DNP? Wilson (is he healthy)? Temple? Green? You asked a good question. I'm curious to see the answer as well.

It's probably gonna be a combination of Temple/Ty/Sin, but I wish they gave the spot to Jerome, just the same place in the rotation that Sham had before the injury. It'd probably cost us playoff positioning, but it's the sort of long term investment we need to be doing.

I agree with your larger point though, playing some of your best players from the bench is not the same thing as being a deep team, we depend on two/three guys for our whole offense, and if one of them goes down, our team goes from gritty playoff team with upside to easy sweep by any of the remaining 7 teams.

I'm so glad you see the issue. Lou and Trezz are great bench players but that does not mean the team is deep. Most teams have their best players in the starting lineup. I think once the playoff spot is locked it might be a good idea to give Rome some minutes just to see if he could help if needed in the playoffs. Once the playoffs start most coaches would usually only go 8-9 deep. I think this team is falling 1-2 guys short of that 8-9 number unless somebody steps up.

That sound really good. I think that move was huge for this team this season. Before that move some other teams centers were having season if not career games against us.

[TheNewEra]

All season we have heard how deep the Clippers were. I disagree with that notion. With Sham out who do you really have as a replacement at starter? Wallace who is often a DNP? Wilson (is he healthy)? Temple? Green? You asked a good question. I'm curious to see the answer as well.

It's probably gonna be a combination of Temple/Ty/Sin, but I wish they gave the spot to Jerome, just the same place in the rotation that Sham had before the injury. It'd probably cost us playoff positioning, but it's the sort of long term investment we need to be doing.

I agree with your larger point though, playing some of your best players from the bench is not the same thing as being a deep team, we depend on two/three guys for our whole offense, and if one of them goes down, our team goes from gritty playoff team with upside to easy sweep by any of the remaining 7 teams.

I'm so glad you see the issue. Lou and Trezz are great bench players but that does not mean the team is deep. Most teams have their best players in the starting lineup. I think once the playoff spot is locked it might be a good idea to give Rome some minutes just to see if he could help if needed in the playoffs. Once the playoffs start most coaches would usually only go 8-9 deep. I think this team is falling 1-2 guys short of that 8-9 number unless somebody steps up.

Believe the role players are being undersold for the depth of this team. You don’t have to have 10 guys in double figures to be deep just have players that will step up to the moment when needed. Of course Harrell and Lou did the boat load of scoring because that was their job.

Pre-Trade. Can we really deny Boban and Milo we’re out there and helped WIN some guys while being end of the bench players? We had Luc and SGA help closing to win games early season when both were off the bench and Ty being a black hole but a spark. Mike Scott was inconsistent at times but always was tough and was a playmaker when his shot wasn’t falling. Beverly finally found his shot and was running through teams with Lou and Trez.

Post-Trade.The trades did take away some of the depth to reorganize the balance of the overall team. Beverly, Shamet and Zubac have given new bounce to SGA and Gallonari. Even with that J.Green has been one of the most impressive additions. Plays big, solid defender on the perimeter and paint, contributes on the glass.

Since the relationship soured with Milo and Luc has no timeline to return and mix in Chandler not really looking playable the depth is more decent. We are going to need some luck to stay healthy and we are going to need Robinson to step up with Wallace and Thornwell not being good fits with the starters.

[Galloisdaman]

It's probably gonna be a combination of Temple/Ty/Sin, but I wish they gave the spot to Jerome, just the same place in the rotation that Sham had before the injury. It'd probably cost us playoff positioning, but it's the sort of long term investment we need to be doing.

I agree with your larger point though, playing some of your best players from the bench is not the same thing as being a deep team, we depend on two/three guys for our whole offense, and if one of them goes down, our team goes from gritty playoff team with upside to easy sweep by any of the remaining 7 teams.

I'm so glad you see the issue. Lou and Trezz are great bench players but that does not mean the team is deep. Most teams have their best players in the starting lineup. I think once the playoff spot is locked it might be a good idea to give Rome some minutes just to see if he could help if needed in the playoffs. Once the playoffs start most coaches would usually only go 8-9 deep. I think this team is falling 1-2 guys short of that 8-9 number unless somebody steps up.

Believe the role players are being undersold for the depth of this team. You don’t have to have 10 guys in double figures to be deep just have players that will step up to the moment when needed. Of course Harrell and Lou did the boat load of scoring because that was their job.

Pre-Trade. Can we really deny Boban and Milo we’re out there and helped WIN some guys while being end of the bench players? We had Luc and SGA help closing to win games early season when both were off the bench and Ty being a black hole but a spark. Mike Scott was inconsistent at times but always was tough and was a playmaker when his shot wasn’t falling. Beverly finally found his shot and was running through teams with Lou and Trez.

Post-Trade.The trades did take away some of the depth to reorganize the balance of the overall team. Beverly, Shamet and Zubac have given new bounce to SGA and Gallonari. Even with that J.Green has been one of the most impressive additions. Plays big, solid defender on the perimeter and paint, contributes on the glass.

Since the relationship soured with Milo and Luc has no timeline to return and mix in Chandler not really looking playable the depth is more decent. We are going to need some luck to stay healthy and we are going to need Robinson to step up with Wallace and Thornwell not being good fits with the starters.

I agree for the most part but I would ask:

How much contribution did Luc and Milo give this season? Don't most playoff teams have guys on their bench that give at least that much or much more? I did not see those two players as depth this season. They would have been in the past. Boban did add to depth. So did Mike Scott.

I think we lost Tobias, Boban and Scott as real contributors while gaining Sham and Zubac. I'd like to see more from Green, Wilson and Temple before I include them. Maybe Green can be included now.