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2018/2019 NBA draft talk: Who should be our target? (Poll)

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Who is the perfect fit?

RJ Barrett
32
33%
Ja Morant
14
14%
Zion Williamson
11
11%
Cameron Reddish
6
6%
Darius Garland
5
5%
Kevin Porter
9
9%
Romeo Langford
8
8%
Keldon Johnson
1
1%
Nassir Little
7
7%
Jarrett Culver
4
4%
 
Total votes: 97

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Post#501 » by T-Cat » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:42 pm

nymets1 wrote:It's too bad we have no shot at Ja Morant. He should arguably going #1 overall. The NBA is more about guards than big man so I definitely think Morant would be the best player from this draft. JA Morant on the Magic for sure is a franchise player, one of the best players in the NBA. But yes I'm totally aware the Magic have no shot at him.


Never say never! Depending on if we make the playoffs or not, but with Fultz here do we really take another PG? (Our front Office would look really smart if Fultz reaches his potential).

I would rather have RJ Barrett if given the opportunity IMO due to his improving skill level and mentality to be the best!
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Post#502 » by VFX » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:43 pm

The further white goes in the tourney that higher he goes. I’ll bet we aren’t in range.
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Post#503 » by IllMagic04 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:50 pm

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nymets1 wrote:It's too bad we have no shot at Ja Morant. He should arguably going #1 overall. The NBA is more about guards than big man so I definitely think Morant would be the best player from this draft. JA Morant on the Magic for sure is a franchise player, one of the best players in the NBA. But yes I'm totally aware the Magic have no shot at him.


Never say never! Depending on if we make the playoffs or not, but with Fultz here do we really take another PG? (Our front Office would look really smart if Fultz reaches his potential).

I would rather have RJ Barrett if given the opportunity IMO due to his improving skill level and mentality to be the best!
You shouldnt let a player whos yet to play have any influnence on who you draft. Besides Coby could be a combo gaurd a 6'5. Nothing wrong with having 2 guys like that in your backcourt.

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Post#504 » by BadHombre » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:37 pm

nbadraft.net seem to be the only place that values Coby White as highly as I do. I hope the GMs of the league sleep on him like most mock drafts have been. He's the 2nd best guard in this draft behind Morant right now, to me.

*edit: correction. Garland is the 2nd best, but has limited minutes so far due to that injury. I'd take him over White, risk and all. Hopefully he slides far enough down because of that, and gets within trade up range for us.
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Post#505 » by PrimeThyme » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:55 pm

MagicMatic wrote:The further white goes in the tourney that higher he goes. I’ll bet we aren’t in range.

He feels like this years SGA to me. I think he settles somewhere in the 10-13 range. I'd rather target a shooting guard like Alexander-walker, but that doesn't mean I dont love White. I think he is a major sleeper like Shai was last year.
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Post#506 » by T-Cat » Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:58 pm

IllMagic04 wrote:
T-Cat wrote:
nymets1 wrote:It's too bad we have no shot at Ja Morant. He should arguably going #1 overall. The NBA is more about guards than big man so I definitely think Morant would be the best player from this draft. JA Morant on the Magic for sure is a franchise player, one of the best players in the NBA. But yes I'm totally aware the Magic have no shot at him.


Never say never! Depending on if we make the playoffs or not, but with Fultz here do we really take another PG? (Our front Office would look really smart if Fultz reaches his potential).

I would rather have RJ Barrett if given the opportunity IMO due to his improving skill level and mentality to be the best!
You shouldnt let a player whos yet to play have any influnence on who you draft. Besides Coby could be a combo gaurd a 6'5. Nothing wrong with having 2 guys like that in your backcourt.

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Do you think Clifford would want Coby as a potential starting 2 guard given his physical limitations on the defensive end?

Do you think we should really draft another young player with our current players? Unless it's an impact guy, I would trade down and move some dead weight on the roster!

Our main goal is to try to move Fournier.
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Post#507 » by BadHombre » Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:30 am

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MagicMatic wrote:The further white goes in the tourney that higher he goes. I’ll bet we aren’t in range.

He feels like this years SGA to me. I think he settles somewhere in the 10-13 range. I'd rather target a shooting guard like Alexander-walker, but that doesn't mean I dont love White. I think he is a major sleeper like Shai was last year.


NAW is enticing too. That VT system is something else. It often limits the demand for him to put the ball on the floor and go get it, so he won't be entering the league with as much pedigree on that front as a Morant or even White. But he seems like the multifaced kind of prospect who could bring that to his game within his first few years in the league, if developed that way. I get a real Paul George/Kawhi vibe from him. White gives me Mitchell/Shai vibes, too. Both great options for a mid first rounder if available.
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Post#508 » by VFX » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:37 am

PrimeThyme wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:The further white goes in the tourney that higher he goes. I’ll bet we aren’t in range.

He feels like this years SGA to me. I think he settles somewhere in the 10-13 range. I'd rather target a shooting guard like Alexander-walker, but that doesn't mean I dont love White. I think he is a major sleeper like Shai was last year.


I like NAW also. For whatever reason, I’m done with Orlando drafting players based off athletic measurables (length, speed, etc). Give me a player that has skill, can do something with the ball, and can stay on the court. Maybe that’s asking for too much from this organization and where the pick will land.
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Post#509 » by Knightro » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:55 am

There are a lot of guys that would fit nicely in that “darn it, we just missed the playoffs!” 10-12 range.

Zion, Morant and Barrett will all be gone, but after those three it’s pretty much a crapshoot 4-14.

Reddish, Culver, Hunter, Garland, Langford, White, K. Johnson and Alexander-Walker gives you 8 guys that will definitely be picked after 3.

If the Magic miss the playoffs, they should absolutely be in a position to snag one of them and those are just the top points and wings available.

That doesn’t even include guys like Doumbouya, Hachimura or Little that would presumably become more appealing if the Magic decide to flip Gordon for a PG/SG/SF.
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Post#510 » by IllMagic04 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:52 am

T-Cat wrote:
IllMagic04 wrote:
T-Cat wrote:
Never say never! Depending on if we make the playoffs or not, but with Fultz here do we really take another PG? (Our front Office would look really smart if Fultz reaches his potential).

I would rather have RJ Barrett if given the opportunity IMO due to his improving skill level and mentality to be the best!
You shouldnt let a player whos yet to play have any influnence on who you draft. Besides Coby could be a combo gaurd a 6'5. Nothing wrong with having 2 guys like that in your backcourt.

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Do you think Clifford would want Coby as a potential starting 2 guard given his physical limitations on the defensive end?

Do you think we should really draft another young player with our current players? Unless it's an impact guy, I would trade down and move some dead weight on the roster!

Our main goal is to try to move Fournier.
He doesnt need to start. Depends on what happens with Fultz. He has some limatations but he had score and thats what we need. We can figure out the rest. Trading the pick would be dumb. We need talent. Im in no real rush to trade these contracts.

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Post#511 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:22 pm

BadHombre wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:The further white goes in the tourney that higher he goes. I’ll bet we aren’t in range.

He feels like this years SGA to me. I think he settles somewhere in the 10-13 range. I'd rather target a shooting guard like Alexander-walker, but that doesn't mean I dont love White. I think he is a major sleeper like Shai was last year.


NAW is enticing too. That VT system is something else. It often limits the demand for him to put the ball on the floor and go get it, so he won't be entering the league with as much pedigree on that front as a Morant or even White. But he seems like the multifaced kind of prospect who could bring that to his game within his first few years in the league, if developed that way. I get a real Paul George/Kawhi vibe from him. White gives me Mitchell/Shai vibes, too. Both great options for a mid first rounder if available.


Huge Homer as a VT fan... NAW is such a good dude and the one thing that has changed his game completely is his ability with his left hand. Last year his left hand was nonexistent, now hes throwing wraparound passes to a wide open C for an easy dunk able to finish in traffic with it and its opened his game big time. And if anything having Justin Robinson get hurt for a ton of this season NAW had to really be the lead guard and play more with the ball in his hand and I've seen growth in that area as well.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#512 » by PrimeThyme » Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:53 pm

BadHombre wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:The further white goes in the tourney that higher he goes. I’ll bet we aren’t in range.

He feels like this years SGA to me. I think he settles somewhere in the 10-13 range. I'd rather target a shooting guard like Alexander-walker, but that doesn't mean I dont love White. I think he is a major sleeper like Shai was last year.


NAW is enticing too. That VT system is something else. It often limits the demand for him to put the ball on the floor and go get it, so he won't be entering the league with as much pedigree on that front as a Morant or even White. But he seems like the multifaced kind of prospect who could bring that to his game within his first few years in the league, if developed that way. I get a real Paul George/Kawhi vibe from him. White gives me Mitchell/Shai vibes, too. Both great options for a mid first rounder if available.

With the culture and type of guys Weltman is trying to bring in here, he just checks every box. Extremely high IQ player that plays the game the right way. His second-year jump reminds me a lot of Donavan Mitchell and I could see him having a similar trajectory as he did.

It will be a missed opportunity imo if he is not on this team next year. The type of secondary playmaker, defender, and scorer he is is exactly what we need in a Fournier replacement.
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Post#513 » by KillMonger » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:36 pm

what happened to quetin grimes?
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Post#514 » by Knightro » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:02 pm

Solid Snake wrote:what happened to quetin grimes?


Had a horrible season.

8.4 PPG, 2.0 APG on a .384/.340/.603 slash line.
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Post#515 » by KillMonger » Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:08 pm

Knightro wrote:
Solid Snake wrote:what happened to quetin grimes?


Had a horrible season.

8.4 PPG, 2.0 APG on a .384/.340/.603 slash line.
Sheeesh..... Started promising iirc......was intriguing to me, SG with playmaking ability.... I'm in "replace fournier" mode

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Post#516 » by drsd » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:26 am

Knightro wrote:There are a lot of guys that would fit nicely in that “darn it, we just missed the playoffs!” 10-12 range.


What about the guys in the "We made the #6-seed range?" That looks to slot at 17.

This is the yet-another Center range of the draft: Charles Bassey, Bol Bol, Naz Reid, Daniel Gafford, Goga Bitadze, Jaxson Hayes, and Jontay Porter.

The Magic might be best served to draft a future back-up PF with this pick. I guess I favor either be Sekou Doumbouya as a combo forward or Daniel Gafford as a combo-big.


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Post#517 » by zaymon » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:53 am

drsd wrote:
Knightro wrote:There are a lot of guys that would fit nicely in that “darn it, we just missed the playoffs!” 10-12 range.


What about the guys in the "We made the #6-seed range?" That looks to slot at 17.

This is the yet-another Center range of the draft: Charles Bassey, Bol Bol, Naz Reid, Daniel Gafford, Goga Bitadze, Jaxson Hayes, and Jontay Porter.

The Magic might be best served to draft a future back-up PF with this pick. I guess I favor either be Sekou Doumbouya as a combo forward or Daniel Gafford as a combo-big.


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10-12 pick would be ideal for us this year(naw, white), with 17 i would target Keldon Johnson, Kevin Porter, Tyler Herro, Nasir Little, maybe Talen Horton- Tucker(black horse bol bol)
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Post#518 » by MoMM » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:11 pm

At #17, we should draft a wing player, except if a PF or PG is really better than the wing one, IMO.

Another option is to trade up including Bamba or anything else.
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Post#519 » by IllMagic04 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:18 pm

Welp since we keep winning maybe Tyler Hero? I just want to add more shooting to this team.
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Post#520 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:57 pm

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PLUSES
Shot-creation skills are uncommon for a player with his body: He unleashes NBA Street–style moves to generate space to get buckets.
Solid spot-up shooter from a stationary position, though his low, robotic release may not be as effective against NBA length.
Makes difficult cross-court passes off the dribble, and has keen passing vision that could be cultivated in the NBA.
Good rebounder who high-points the ball and sparks transition offense by taking the ball up the floor.
Long arms and strong frame theoretically give him the ability to switch screens, using his length to swallow guards and bulk to battle bigs.
Youth. He turned 18 in November, so there are untapped skills for a team to mature.
MINUSES
Poor free throw shooter who doesn’t display touch on floaters or layups, which doesn’t inspire much confidence in the upside of his jumper.
Shot selection is problematic. He takes far too many contested pull-ups with lots of time left on the shot clock.
Erratic decision-maker driving the ball. He forces wild shots underneath the rim instead of locating shooters.
Loose handle that sometimes comes up above his shoulders. He needs tighten it up or won’t be nearly as effective in an NBA setting.
Slow moving laterally on defense. He’s often out of position and plays float-footed, but with his thick frame and wide hips, he just might not be quick enough on the perimeter.
Low-effort defender who doesn’t play with passion, toughness, or focus. Defensive consistency is a teamwide issue though, so he could be a product of the environment.


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A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:

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