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Political Roundtable Part XXV

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#901 » by pancakes3 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 3:50 pm

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somebody. anybody. please show me one of these super swaying russian ads from one of the 13 troll in the basement. At this point i just gotta see one of these ads that is so damn good it could change a vote for hillary to a vote for trump. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I just gotta see this super marketing genius and get him or her here on an H1B and start doing marketing for me. oh wait. cant do that...Mueller's got em on subpeona. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: well just gonna have to do it over the phone. These basement trolls are geniuses!!!!!


pretty much every single right wing politician and celebrity has engaged with Russian troll accounts, including Trump himself. seeing as how much you retweet James Woods, another person that's been flagged as engaging with Russian troll accounts, it's almost certain that you've already seen many of these super swaying russian ads from one of the 13 trolls in basements.

notably, @TEN_GOP was one of the most successful troll accounts that at one point had 130 thousand followers, over 100,000 tweets, and was retweeted by Trump on 3 different occasions.

so how about you stop being a braying ass about this?


come on already!!!!!! Post the ads!!!! Post the posts!!! I'm dyin' to see these influencer skillz!!!! Maybe they can change my vote!!?? :dontknow:


you're pathetic.

https://intelligence.house.gov/social-media-content/social-media-advertisements.htm
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#902 » by gtn130 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:09 pm

SD20 is saying Andrew Weissman worked for the Clinton Foundation before working for the SCO. That doesn't appear anywhere in his bio, which states:
Since 2015 he has headed the criminal fraud section at DOJ. Weissmann has taught at NYU School of Law, Fordham Law School, and Brooklyn Law School.


SD20, can you prove this or nah?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#903 » by montestewart » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:24 pm

gtn130 wrote:SD20 is saying Andrew Weissman worked for the Clinton Foundation before working for the SCO. That doesn't appear anywhere in his bio, which states:
Since 2015 he has headed the criminal fraud section at DOJ. Weissmann has taught at NYU School of Law, Fordham Law School, and Brooklyn Law School.


SD20, can you prove this or nah?

A few pages back, he posted a damning Comey quote from congressional "testimony," no part of which could be found anywhere on the internet.

Once Trump was able to convince a large part of the country that biased reporting, over eager gun jumping on stories, and sometimes just flat out getting the facts wrong equated to 100% FAKE NEWS 24/7!, he indoctrinated a large swath of people into a cult of believing entirely anything that appears to support your premise, even tangentially, and seems like what a right winger might imagine makes an hypothetical liberal angry. A spectrum of active to passive suspension of disbelief in the name of a cause.

The primary move that Trump made that I will acknowledge as fairly brilliant, in an intuitive, charismatic, cult-of-personality way, is convincing so many people to accept clearly FAKE internet NEWS as the truth. He capitalized on years of priming prep work, chain emails, click bait, minds numbed by simplistic internet blather, and turned it into an angry, ill-informed army.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#904 » by FAH1223 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:49 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#905 » by Pointgod » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:06 pm

gtn130 wrote:SD20 is saying Andrew Weissman worked for the Clinton Foundation before working for the SCO. That doesn't appear anywhere in his bio, which states:
Since 2015 he has headed the criminal fraud section at DOJ. Weissmann has taught at NYU School of Law, Fordham Law School, and Brooklyn Law School.


SD20, can you prove this or nah?


I guess we’re just going to keep letting him spew lies without forcing him to back them up.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#906 » by Pointgod » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:10 pm

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She’s putting out a lot of policies but will anyone care? This is reminding me of shades of Hillary.
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Post#907 » by dckingsfan » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:12 pm

Then there are their is the GND policies... kind of funny although it may be bothersome depending where you sit.

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Post#908 » by closg00 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:30 pm

In way too-early polling, Biden & Bernie beat Trump in head-to-heads
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Trump is down in Midwest must-win states
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-currently-down-in-midwest-states-poll-shows-1465589827809?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#909 » by gtn130 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:18 pm

Pointgod wrote:
gtn130 wrote:SD20 is saying Andrew Weissman worked for the Clinton Foundation before working for the SCO. That doesn't appear anywhere in his bio, which states:
Since 2015 he has headed the criminal fraud section at DOJ. Weissmann has taught at NYU School of Law, Fordham Law School, and Brooklyn Law School.


SD20, can you prove this or nah?


I guess we’re just going to keep letting him spew lies without forcing him to back them up.


I mean this is the entire conversation after the Barr letter. People are relentlessly misrepresenting a report that nobody has seen based on a four page letter written by a guy handpicked to end the investigation.

We're absolutely never going to see an accurate representation of the report unless the House can have Mueller testify. Literally nothing else matters until we see the report, and Barr, Trump et al are currently doing everything they can to block it from ever reaching daylight.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#910 » by gtn130 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:24 pm

The funniest thing is Glenn Greenwald breathlessly spiking the football on Twitter when he's been blatantly wrong about everything along the way. He originally refused to believe Russia even initiated an interference campaign, and that was something Barr actually confirmed! Suddenly now GG's take is that there weren't any collusion indictments, so the media is fraudulent. NO COLLUSION is literally the straw man talking point created by Trump. Glenn Greenwald, bastion of progressivism though.

And again, Glenn Greenwald, the crusader against authoritarian power structures, is uncritically accepting the story being told by Bill Barr, the guy at the center of Iran-Contra. It's all just laughable nonsense.
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Post#911 » by gtn130 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:39 pm

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Everything is totally above board though.
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Post#912 » by Pointgod » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:07 pm

closg00 wrote:In way too-early polling, Biden & Bernie beat Trump in head-to-heads
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Trump is down in Midwest must-win states
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-currently-down-in-midwest-states-poll-shows-1465589827809?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma


I keep saying Trump is not liked. Trumps policies are garbage and so are his politics. He’s beatable if Democrats turn up to vote in record numbers, regardless of who’s the Democratic nominee. That’s why all this horse race punditry about who can beat Trump is stupid. The message should be Democrats need to vote in overwhelming numbers regardless of who the nominee is. No sitting out because your preferred candidate didn’t win. No voting for useless 3rd party candidates. Learn from 2016 and do that adult thing and vote for the Democrats up and down the ticket.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#913 » by Pointgod » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:28 pm

gtn130 wrote:The funniest thing is Glenn Greenwald breathlessly spiking the football on Twitter when he's been blatantly wrong about everything along the way. He originally refused to believe Russia even initiated an interference campaign, and that was something Barr actually confirmed! Suddenly now GG's take is that there weren't any collusion indictments, so the media is fraudulent. NO COLLUSION is literally the straw man talking point created by Trump. Glenn Greenwald, bastion of progressivism though.

And again, Glenn Greenwald, the crusader against authoritarian power structures, is uncritically accepting the story being told by Bill Barr, the guy at the center of Iran-Contra. It's all just laughable nonsense.


It’s amazing that the same people that claim that Mueller and 12 angry Democrats was a which hunt perpetrated by Hillary Clinton and Obama are the same people who now yell from the roof tops, no collusion! We love Mueller!

I think the most galling part is that truth crusaders like Glenn Greenwald who relentlessly hammered Hillary on her private server have nothing to say about Jared and Ivankas private server usage. The hypocrisy is maddening.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#914 » by Ruzious » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:03 pm

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Everything is totally above board though.

That tweet is the bottom line. The rest is mostly a worthless made-for-tv movie for people with issues. Show us the damn report already!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#915 » by stilldropin20 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:22 pm

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Everything is totally above board though.

That tweet is the bottom line. The rest is mostly a worthless made-for-tv movie for people with issues. Show us the damn report already!


nah brah, ya gotta protect sources and methods. Then you presidential privilege. The lawful and duly elected president of these great united must be be given the freedom to negotiate and do his job for the american people and he's got the right and power to protect those privileges.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#916 » by stilldropin20 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:26 pm

Pointgod wrote:
gtn130 wrote:SD20 is saying Andrew Weissman worked for the Clinton Foundation before working for the SCO. That doesn't appear anywhere in his bio, which states:
Since 2015 he has headed the criminal fraud section at DOJ. Weissmann has taught at NYU School of Law, Fordham Law School, and Brooklyn Law School.


SD20, can you prove this or nah?


I guess we’re just going to keep letting him spew lies without forcing him to back them up.


jeannie rhee. not weissman

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#917 » by Ruzious » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:39 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
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Everything is totally above board though.

That tweet is the bottom line. The rest is mostly a worthless made-for-tv movie for people with issues. Show us the damn report already!


nah brah, ya gotta protect sources and methods. Then you presidential privilege. The lawful and duly elected president of these great united must be be given the freedom to negotiate and do his job for the american people and he's got the right and power to protect those privileges.

We're talking about a President who negotiates on Twitter. I'm kinda doubting there's much in there relating to your president that needs to be kept quiet for national protection.

Oh, and while we're at it - as they say in Missoura... show us his bleepin tax returns! Wasn't he supposed to be the transparent prez?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#918 » by stilldropin20 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:30 am

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I’d like to remind everyone zero indictments in the so called Clinton scandal.

That's because everyone they were about to indict wound up I dead. I read. Somewhere.


James Comey: "we (the FBI that investigated one of the many clinton scandals) changed the language from "grossly negligent" to "careless" because we were told the top of DOJ (only lynch and obama) were not interested in prosecuting her."

^that's comey under oath.


I'm sorrry but this is 100% true and and it is NOT FAKE NEWS!!!

it is a mashup of both Comey and Lisa Page under oath in regards to conversations Comey had with top DOJ officials:

But the statement is 100% accurate and from multiple people under oath and multiple sources.

here it is full article former washington examiner.

Former FBI lawyer Lisa Page testified last year that officials in the bureau, including then-FBI Director James Comey, discussed Espionage Act charges against Hillary Clinton, citing “gross negligence," but the Justice Department shut them down.

Newly released transcripts from Page’s private testimony in front of a joint task force of the House Judiciary and Oversight committees in July 2018 sheds new light on the internal discussions about an investigation into Clinton's emails. This goes back to the FBI’s "Midyear Exam" investigation, which looked into whether Clinton committed crimes when she sent and received classified information on her unauthorized private email server while serving as secretary of state.

Comey cleared Clinton of all charges in a press conference on July 5, 2016.

Page told the committee that the FBI "did not blow over gross negligence.” Responding to a question from Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, Page testified the FBI, including Comey, believed Clinton may have committed gross negligence. “We, in fact — and, in fact, the Director — because, on its face, it did seem like, well, maybe there’s a potential here for this to be the charge. And we had multiple conversations, multiple conversations with the Justice Department about charging gross negligence," she said.

Page further testified the DOJ put a stop to that: “The Justice Department’s assessment was that it was both constitutionally vague, so that they did not actually feel that they could permissibly bring that charge.” The specific statute being referenced, 18 U.S. Code § 793, deals in part with “gross negligence” in the handling of national defense information, which Clinton came under scrutiny for possibly violating.

Page said Comey and the FBI spoke with DOJ about a gross negligence charge for Clinton multiple times, but that the DOJ consistently pushed back on it. “We had multiple conversations with the Justice Department about bringing a gross negligence charge. And that’s, as I said, the advice that we got from the Department was that they did not think — that it was constitutionally vague and not sustainable," she said.

Ratcliffe asked if the decision not to charge Clinton with gross negligence was a direct order from the DOJ. "When you say advice you got from the Department, you’re making it sound like it was the Department that told you: ‘You’re not going to charge gross negligence because we’re the prosecutors and we’re telling you we’re not going to,’” he said.

Page responded: “That’s correct.”

Page would later testify that the DOJ told the FBI that “the ‘gross negligence’ standard in 793(f), it was their assessment that it was unconstitutionally vague.”

When asked if she knew why DOJ believed that, Page replied: “I really don’t know… I am confident that it was based on their own research in consultation with others, but I don’t have personal knowledge about what the Department did in order to come to that conclusion.”

Page is the former FBI lawyer who reportedly carried out an affair with FBI agent Peter Strzok, the lead investigator in the Clinton investigation. The thousands of text messages that they sent back and forth about the Clinton and Trump-Russia investigations raised questions of bias, and Mueller eventually removed Strzok from the special counsel investigation. Strzok was also fired by the FBI.

Page’s testimony raises further questions related to the decision not to charge Clinton with any crimes, including gross negligence, following a lengthy FBI investigation into her email practices that potentially put classified information at risk. After the revelation that then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch met with former President Bill Clinton on a Phoenix tarmac in June 2016, while Hillary Clinton was running for president, Lynch refused to recuse herself from the case while also saying she would accept Comey’s decision on what charges to bring against Clinton. But Page’s testimony indicates that DOJ had shut the door on gross negligence.

Comey gave an infamous press conference on July 5, 2016, where he listed Clinton’s numerous missteps, including the fact that 110 emails in 52 email chains contained classified information at the time they were sent or received by Clinton. But he would not recommend charging her with any crimes, and the phrase “extremely careless” (not a crime) would be used instead of “gross negligence” (a chargeable offense).

It was Strzok who reportedly changed the language in Comey’s draft statement from “grossly negligent” in an earlier draft to “extremely careless” in the final statement.

At the time, the National Review's Andy McCarthy wrote, "According to Director James Comey, Hillary Clinton checked every box required for a felony violation of Section 793(f) of the federal penal code ... and, in essence, in order to give Mrs. Clinton a pass, the FBI rewrote the statute."

It was previously reported that a chart had been shared inside the FBI which did not include "gross negligence" on the list of potential criminal violations that Clinton could’ve been charged with. In front of Congress last year, an email containing the chart was reportedly shown to the assistant director of the FBI’s counterintelligence division Bill Priestap. He testified that he didn't know why the email said, “DOJ not willing to charge this.” Page’s testimony indicates that the decision not to charge Clinton with gross negligence came directly from the DOJ.

Priestap also testified that "if there is a Federal criminal statute still on the books, then, you know — and we think there may or might be a violation of that, we still have to work to uncover whether, in fact, there was.” Page testified that the DOJ pushed back on the FBI’s desire to explore the gross negligence charge.

The hundreds of pages of newly released Page testimony are just the latest peek into the investigations surrounding Hillary Clinton and President Trump. Testimony from Bruce Ohr, a high-ranking DOJ official connected to dossier author Christopher Steele and whose wife worked at Fusion GPS, was released last week.


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#919 » by montestewart » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:14 am

Jeez STD, you're not even trying to pretend you didn't fake a James Comey quote.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXV 

Post#920 » by Wizardspride » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:17 pm

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