Physical Therapist says LeBron’s groin injury recovery should’ve taken six months

[OfficialRef]

So a hobbled lebron still put up those stats!? Insane.

Its too bad lebron suffered these injuries. League got lucky

[JonFromVA]

Of course he can be playing while not 100%, he has done it his whole career and usually managed to play at a high level. He is now older, and has a different type of injury than he has had previously, and one that is particularly troublesome for an explosive athlete.

Some who are quibbling are likely still annoyed by the widespread attitude on here from Cavs/LeBron partisans towards Curry in regard to the 2016 finals ie that he was playing and hence couldn’t/didn’t have any impairment from a very definite injury which he suffered live on national TV and which kept him out for over 2 weeks earlier in the play-offs, and that it was obligatory to attribute his form in the GSW finals loss to choking and nothing else. This of course does not mean you or any other individual poster on this thread deserves to be tarred with the same brush.

I will say that Curry himself made no injury excuses, while LeBron usually manages to have it put out when he has an injury, for example the hand injury in the finals last year and the current injury, speaking about which would have been professional misconduct by the physiotherapist concerned if she spoke without his approval as others have said. I don’t doubt both injuries were/are genuine.

Curry's injury was well known and he clearly looked limited to me in the 2016 finals, but yes, I'm in the minority of Cavs fans who recognized that. Of course, I had no problem pointing out the nagging injuries the Cavs were dealing with as well. Heck, Steph's physical injury may very well have contributed to his mental errors as well.

It's understandable that players don't like to talk about their injuries at the time for fear of their opponent trying to exploit it and/or to avoid the sort of attacks that come with "making excuses". There's little to gain, but some of us do like to know what's really going on so we can come to better judgements/conclusions.

Sure. We pretty much agree.

GSW mainly lost because of stellar play by LeBron and Kyrie including LeBron’s defense on Curry, with good support from other Cavs players including TT’s rebounding. The fair thing is to assume the Cavs would have triumphed regardless since they did beat everyone who turned up to play them, including the version of Curry who actually turned up. I mainly invoke Curry being somewhat hampered in the 2016 finals when others insist he choked and nothing else, not infrequently the same posters who discounted the first GSW title on the basis of injuries to Cavs players. I have been annoyed by such double standards from some LeBron/Cavs fans, but not from you as I said.

Oh, there's a huge difference between between playing hurt .vs. not being able to play at all. Steph was still a factor in 2016, and the Cavs still payed him a ton of attention and constantly trapped him if he called for a screen. But showing up healthy and/or with enough depth to deal with some injuries is all part of the game too.

There's no doubt that Irving, Love, and all the other injuries in the playoffs takes some shine off of the W's first championship - but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have won it all - anyway.

It's always a bit up in the air when neither team in the finals has won it before. James had that experience and that would have helped the Cavs, but we'll never know.

[michaelm]

Curry's injury was well known and he clearly looked limited to me in the 2016 finals, but yes, I'm in the minority of Cavs fans who recognized that. Of course, I had no problem pointing out the nagging injuries the Cavs were dealing with as well. Heck, Steph's physical injury may very well have contributed to his mental errors as well.

It's understandable that players don't like to talk about their injuries at the time for fear of their opponent trying to exploit it and/or to avoid the sort of attacks that come with "making excuses". There's little to gain, but some of us do like to know what's really going on so we can come to better judgements/conclusions.

Sure. We pretty much agree.

GSW mainly lost because of stellar play by LeBron and Kyrie including LeBron’s defense on Curry, with good support from other Cavs players including TT’s rebounding. The fair thing is to assume the Cavs would have triumphed regardless since they did beat everyone who turned up to play them, including the version of Curry who actually turned up. I mainly invoke Curry being somewhat hampered in the 2016 finals when others insist he choked and nothing else, not infrequently the same posters who discounted the first GSW title on the basis of injuries to Cavs players. I have been annoyed by such double standards from some LeBron/Cavs fans, but not from you as I said.

Oh, there's a huge difference between between playing hurt .vs. not being able to play at all. Steph was still a factor in 2016, and the Cavs still payed him a ton of attention and constantly trapped him if he called for a screen. But showing up healthy and/or with enough depth to deal with some injuries is all part of the game too.

There's no doubt that Irving, Love, and all the other injuries in the playoffs takes some shine off of the W's first championship - but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have won it all - anyway.

It's always a bit up in the air when neither team in the finals has won it before. James had that experience and that would have helped the Cavs, but we'll never know.

They shouldn’t have built a team with injury prone players then. The same applies to Curry to an extent, it is a calculated risk. Short of doing a Tanya Harding, no team is responsible for an opposing team’s injuries and can only beat the players who turn up to face them. You also reap what you sow; the diminishing of GSW’s first title is what led to them going for the regular season record the next season, and eventually to them pursuing Durant and the resultant much deplored superteam.

[Impuniti]

Lol goalpost shifting. How many 4th seeds actually "do any damage" in the playoffs year to year? Since when has that been a criterion to legitimize a seed? Noone said the Lakers were on track to win a title. A 4th seed is a 4th seed. Just like the 3rd seed last year wasn't given any qualifiers for being 2 games from the 8th seed. You're only saying this stuff because it's LeBron.

What goal post shifting? People use the he was "4th before the injury" and I stated that they were 2 games from either being 8th or out of the playoffs. It a meaningless statement at that point of the year and when I add context, people like yourself catch feelings.

You're shifting the goalposts by trying to diminish them with statements that apply to current and past 4th seeds as some kind of negative when in every other discussion it would 100% be seen as "Man the West is brutal".
Again there was no such qualifier for the 3rd-7th seed last season. There was no knocking them for failing to separate themselves from the pack or as you have (new criterion, shocker ) qualified "not doing any damage in the playoffs". Sit there and pretend this isn't solely about LeBron though. More power to you.

Stop writing nonsense, it's really grating. You sound like angry teen. That early into the season when 2-3 games completely change the narrative means that using x team is in y position = meaningless unless their record is on an extreme (positive or negative). Saying Lebron was 4th and imply it's all because of an injury when 1 awful week would have had the Lakers out of a playoff spot is either a) purposely disingenuous, or b) dumb.

I'm leaning towards the former with the way you respond.

[Baski]

What goal post shifting? People use the he was "4th before the injury" and I stated that they were 2 games from either being 8th or out of the playoffs. It a meaningless statement at that point of the year and when I add context, people like yourself catch feelings.

You're shifting the goalposts by trying to diminish them with statements that apply to current and past 4th seeds as some kind of negative when in every other discussion it would 100% be seen as "Man the West is brutal".
Again there was no such qualifier for the 3rd-7th seed last season. There was no knocking them for failing to separate themselves from the pack or as you have (new criterion, shocker ) qualified "not doing any damage in the playoffs". Sit there and pretend this isn't solely about LeBron though. More power to you.

Stop writing nonsense, it's really grating. You sound like angry teen. That early into the season when 2-3 games completely change the narrative means that using x team is in y position = meaningless unless their record is on an extreme (positive or negative). Saying Lebron was 4th and imply it's all because of an injury when 1 awful week would have had the Lakers out of a playoff spot is either a) purposely disingenuous, or b) dumb.

I'm leaning towards the former with the way you respond.

Considering all you got from that post was a wrong estimation of my age, it could just be you posting idiotic nonsense not worth responding to, which I should've guessed from the first post. But that's on me for engaging anyway. Thanks for ending this exchange Mr. Grown up

[FinallyImHere]

HGH does wonders, 27 years and Lebron has the only body that could recover that quick? lol

[Bucketz_McGee]

And the excuses begin to roll in....

Exactly.

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[MotownMadness]

And the excuses begin to roll in....

Exactly.

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Almost like how he revealed his cast and hurt arm after the Finals last year. Just wanted to make sure we all knew he was hurt or something.

[XxIronChainzxX]

And the excuses begin to roll in....

Exactly.

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Almost like how he revealed his cast and hurt arm after the Finals last year. Just wanted to make sure we all knew he was hurt or something.

I think it would have leaked it if was fake. This is more like the elbow thing with the Big 3 Celtics.

[Ben Simmons]

According to a physical therapist who worked with LeBron while he rehabbed his injury said that he should’ve been out for even longer than he was. In an Instagram post on Saturday, Dr. Karen Joubert praised LeBron while claiming the groin strain should’ve sidelined him for six months.

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Yeah right, she looks real credible, might as well be Rachel Nichols

[bigbreakfast]

So after Space Jam 2 flops, Lebron's optometrist is going to come out and say that Lebron was legally blind for the past 6 months.
GTFO.


BTW, this chick is a physical therapist. She has no training in determining how severe an injury is and how long it should take to recover. Her job is to put together exercises so the injury can heal properly. Physical therapists are not medical doctors.

I’m sorry, what?

Glad somebody else caught this too. Yikes.

I'm sure a lot of PTs can and do give their opinion on the severity of an injury, but their opinion is not the same as medical opinion.

Nothing against this particular PT, she may know LBJ very well and is very experienced, but would definitely take her statement with a grain of salt.

[Stadium5]

Probably already said in here...but that therapist looks exactly like chelsea handler....so im sure she helped LBJ with his "groin" issue

working overtime on massages in LA land

Strike for offensive post.

[JonFromVA]

Sure. We pretty much agree.

GSW mainly lost because of stellar play by LeBron and Kyrie including LeBron’s defense on Curry, with good support from other Cavs players including TT’s rebounding. The fair thing is to assume the Cavs would have triumphed regardless since they did beat everyone who turned up to play them, including the version of Curry who actually turned up. I mainly invoke Curry being somewhat hampered in the 2016 finals when others insist he choked and nothing else, not infrequently the same posters who discounted the first GSW title on the basis of injuries to Cavs players. I have been annoyed by such double standards from some LeBron/Cavs fans, but not from you as I said.

Oh, there's a huge difference between between playing hurt .vs. not being able to play at all. Steph was still a factor in 2016, and the Cavs still payed him a ton of attention and constantly trapped him if he called for a screen. But showing up healthy and/or with enough depth to deal with some injuries is all part of the game too.

There's no doubt that Irving, Love, and all the other injuries in the playoffs takes some shine off of the W's first championship - but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have won it all - anyway.

It's always a bit up in the air when neither team in the finals has won it before. James had that experience and that would have helped the Cavs, but we'll never know.

They shouldn’t have built a team with injury prone players then. The same applies to Curry to an extent, it is a calculated risk. Short of doing a Tanya Harding, no team is responsible for an opposing team’s injuries and can only beat the players who turn up to face them. You also reap what you sow; the diminishing of GSW’s first title is what led to them going for the regular season record the next season, and eventually to them pursuing Durant and the resultant much deplored superteam.

The reasons why things happen are still important, at least for predictive purposes, not for assigning asterisks or bruising egos.

When the Cavs were healthier in 2016 and the W's more dinged up ... they won it all (albeit barely). The two teams were really well matched and had a showdown that will go down in history.

Which brings us back to LeBron and the Lakers. As fun as it is to laugh at his and the Lakers struggles this season, if they can build a more cohesive roster, and stay healthy enough, they should be contending next season. It's up to Magic and Pelinka now, and it's not at all clear they know what they're doing.

[michaelm]

Oh, there's a huge difference between between playing hurt .vs. not being able to play at all. Steph was still a factor in 2016, and the Cavs still payed him a ton of attention and constantly trapped him if he called for a screen. But showing up healthy and/or with enough depth to deal with some injuries is all part of the game too.

There's no doubt that Irving, Love, and all the other injuries in the playoffs takes some shine off of the W's first championship - but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have won it all - anyway.

It's always a bit up in the air when neither team in the finals has won it before. James had that experience and that would have helped the Cavs, but we'll never know.

They shouldn’t have built a team with injury prone players then. The same applies to Curry to an extent, it is a calculated risk. Short of doing a Tanya Harding, no team is responsible for an opposing team’s injuries and can only beat the players who turn up to face them. You also reap what you sow; the diminishing of GSW’s first title is what led to them going for the regular season record the next season, and eventually to them pursuing Durant and the resultant much deplored superteam.

The reasons why things happen are still important, at least for predictive purposes, not for assigning asterisks or bruising egos.

When the Cavs were healthier in 2016 and the W's more dinged up ... they won it all (albeit barely). The two teams were really well matched and had a showdown that will go down in history.

Which brings us back to LeBron and the Lakers. As fun as it is to laugh at his and the Lakers struggles this season, if they can build a more cohesive roster, and stay healthy enough, they should be contending next season. It's up to Magic and Pelinka now, and it's not at all clear they know what they're doing.

It will depend on who else LA can sign. I think there is too much talent in the NBA now for a 35 year old LeBron to win even with another superstar given he doesn’t have enough energy for much in the way of a defensive contribution these days if he is to lead an offense. Maybe he, Durant and sundry journeymen could get it done, but I think he probably at this stage in his career needs more “help” than just 1 other elite player.

[JonFromVA]

They shouldn’t have built a team with injury prone players then. The same applies to Curry to an extent, it is a calculated risk. Short of doing a Tanya Harding, no team is responsible for an opposing team’s injuries and can only beat the players who turn up to face them. You also reap what you sow; the diminishing of GSW’s first title is what led to them going for the regular season record the next season, and eventually to them pursuing Durant and the resultant much deplored superteam.

The reasons why things happen are still important, at least for predictive purposes, not for assigning asterisks or bruising egos.

When the Cavs were healthier in 2016 and the W's more dinged up ... they won it all (albeit barely). The two teams were really well matched and had a showdown that will go down in history.

Which brings us back to LeBron and the Lakers. As fun as it is to laugh at his and the Lakers struggles this season, if they can build a more cohesive roster, and stay healthy enough, they should be contending next season. It's up to Magic and Pelinka now, and it's not at all clear they know what they're doing.

It will depend on who else LA can sign. I think there is too much talent in the NBA now for a 35 year old LeBron to win even with another superstar given he doesn’t have enough energy for much in the way of a defensive contribution these days if he is to lead an offense. Maybe he, Durant and sundry journeymen could get it done, but I think he probably at this stage in his career needs more “help” than just 1 other elite player.

Well the plan was for them to add one as a free agent and one by trade. I don't think contention is that high of a bar though. Albeit losing Durant to someone would help.