WWE SmackDown Discussion II

[bestnamezRtaken]

I wonder if she's still suffering from her house show injury?

[Stanford]

Asuka doesn't have a match now for WM and they keep changing the parameters of the WM main event match anyway, so why not just include her and make it a fatal four way?

Why not add the whole **** roster while we're at it?

I mean, good grief.

[Flames24Rulz]

Asuka doesn't have a match now for WM and they keep changing the parameters of the WM main event match anyway, so why not just include her and make it a fatal four way?

Why not add the whole **** roster while we're at it?

I mean, good grief.

lol, ok. I'm just asking a hypothetical. And from a storyline perspective, it's not the worst idea in the world either considering all four of them have feuded over the past year.

I was just hoping for a Ronda-Becky match to headline WM, but obviously I don't know **** so whatever.

[Flames24Rulz]

I wonder if she's still suffering from her house show injury?

I don't think they would've had a 15-20 minute match last night if that were the case.

[tugs]

Makes sense to add Asuka but what, if she pins Charlotte she retrieves the title but if Charlotte wins she'll be a dual champ?

And if Ronda pins anyone she retains? If Becky pins anyone she becomes Raw Champ?

[Scott Hall]

I think the only reason Charlotte has been penciled into this match from Day 1 is to hide the fact that Becky and Rousey
aren't good enough in the ring to be in the Main Event of WM. Charlotte can mask their short comings.

Also it's not like the Womens division is full of top tier talent. I think another reason they took the tittle off Asuka and put it
on Charlotte is because the Smackdown Womens tittle would look extremely weak if Asuka is wrestling a rookie like Mandy Rose
or Lacey Evans or Nikki Cross who haven't done anything kayfabe wise on the main roster. It's like the 3 biggest women stars
are fighting over the RAW womens Tittle and rookies are challenging for Smackdowns? At least now the Smackdown and RAW
womens tittle are both involved in the biggest womens match of all time.

Plus since there isn't a lot of huge stars in the Womens division you can save Becky vs. Rousey for down the line and
draw this out while you try to get other women over.

I thought they blew it with Nia Jax I thought after the incident with Becky she had nuclear heat and they could have used
that to make her one of the biggest heels in the biz and have her in that main event picture but she seems like an afterthought
now.

I think Asuka is just a victim of circumstances right now but they are still high on her and she'll be back in the main event
scene soon I mean they just had her tap out Becky Lynch clean at the rumble.

[Ruzious]

Asuka should quit the company, its a damn disgrace what they've done with her. Honestly it makes you wonder, if Manami Toyota or Aja Kong had longer runs, i wonder what they would have done with them.

Let her be Kana again, let her do AEW and let her go back to Japan (then again i doubt she goes to Stardom but Ice Ribbon wouldn't be bad, she'd get a major executive position given she's the biggest name in Joshi that wasn't around in the 90's in recent memory).

That's a huge overreaction. She was the good soldier, and no doubt she'll be rewarded for it in the future - if they don't, that'll be something to quit about, but I expect she will be rewarded down the line. She just happened to be the odd woman out this time. Would I have done it that way? No, but they didn't consult me, and that's business.

[improper]

I don't know why we're even surprised when WWE ruins a great wrestler any more. WWE has far more failures than success stories. They can't really figure out how to utilize anyone properly, and when they do they usually stumble into it blindly like with Becky's heel turn that made her the most over person in the company, or trying to use Strowman to build up Roman and inadvertently making Strowman their top babyface.

[jakecronus8]

I think the only reason Charlotte has been penciled into this match from Day 1 is to hide the fact that Becky and Rousey
aren't good enough in the ring to be in the Main Event of WM. Charlotte can mask their short comings.

I just think this is completely wrong. Charlotte is probably the best overall female worker they have in the company (Asuka is close), but that doesn't mean Becky and Ronda wouldn't tear the house down. Athletic ability and ring work are great but not necessary to have a great main event. Becky is as good as anyone in that second tier and Ronda is unique in her real fighting background and her agility and quickness in the ring. All it would have taken for them to have a classic was the built in story they already had and an agent with a quarter of a brain. The Charlotte inclusion is a vince thing that has only to do with Vince.

The obvious move from the get go for me would've been Becky/Ronda and Charlotte/Asuka part 2. Charlotte and Asuka probably had the second best match last year (after Rousey's debut) and would've been able to make more magic.

[Butch718]

For everything they screw up, they at least got this Kofi story line right. Woods and Big E have been tremendous during this build as well.

My hope is that Kofi wins at Mania, and holds onto the belt until Summer Slam. I would have Big E turn on Kofi around July. That would be the perfect time to break up New Day. I know people don't want to see it, but I can see a great program between Kofi and Big E.

[Stanford]

I'm just asking a hypothetical.

I know. I wasn't taking shots at you, I'm just exasperated by some of WWE's recent decision making and lack of foresight.

And yet...

For everything they screw up, they at least got this Kofi story line right. Woods and Big E have been tremendous during this build as well.

They're totally nailed the Kofi storyline.

I think the only reason Charlotte has been penciled into this match from Day 1 is to hide the fact that Becky and Rousey aren't good enough in the ring to be in the Main Event of WM. Charlotte can mask their short comings.

I don't agree. Becky and Ronda could carry a main event match on their current heat alone. I think they added Charlotte for promo segments. That's where Becky and Ronda really lack.

I think another reason they took the tittle off Asuka and put it on Charlotte is because the Smackdown Womens tittle would look extremely weak if Asuka is wrestling a rookie like Mandy Rose.

You're right, but that's WWE's fault for not thinking about these things prior to the month before Wrestlemania. I think we all agree that there should be a tentative plan for Wrestlemania right after Summerslam.

Beth has looked good - why couldn't Asuka have turned heel and attacked her, leading to a match at Mania? Why couldn't they pay huge money to some MMA fighter to fight Asuka at Mania? Why couldn't Vince tell H that he wants Shayna at Mania 6 months ago? Or, hell, Kairi or Io. Or both!

[Spens1]

Asuka should quit the company, its a damn disgrace what they've done with her. Honestly it makes you wonder, if Manami Toyota or Aja Kong had longer runs, i wonder what they would have done with them.

Let her be Kana again, let her do AEW and let her go back to Japan (then again i doubt she goes to Stardom but Ice Ribbon wouldn't be bad, she'd get a major executive position given she's the biggest name in Joshi that wasn't around in the 90's in recent memory).

That's a huge overreaction. She was the good soldier, and no doubt she'll be rewarded for it in the future - if they don't, that'll be something to quit about, but I expect she will be rewarded down the line. She just happened to be the odd woman out this time. Would I have done it that way? No, but they didn't consult me, and that's business.

She's done nothing this year and sure, they gave her a win over Becky Lynch but that was followed up by her not appearing on tv for weeks.

Her main roster run is an absolute joke and it goes to show you, this company can't book foreigners at all and they don't even try.

[Ruzious]

Asuka should quit the company, its a damn disgrace what they've done with her. Honestly it makes you wonder, if Manami Toyota or Aja Kong had longer runs, i wonder what they would have done with them.

Let her be Kana again, let her do AEW and let her go back to Japan (then again i doubt she goes to Stardom but Ice Ribbon wouldn't be bad, she'd get a major executive position given she's the biggest name in Joshi that wasn't around in the 90's in recent memory).

That's a huge overreaction. She was the good soldier, and no doubt she'll be rewarded for it in the future - if they don't, that'll be something to quit about, but I expect she will be rewarded down the line. She just happened to be the odd woman out this time. Would I have done it that way? No, but they didn't consult me, and that's business.

She's done nothing this year and sure, they gave her a win over Becky Lynch but that was followed up by her not appearing on tv for weeks.

Her main roster run is an absolute joke and it goes to show you, this company can't book foreigners at all and they don't even try.

She's been champion for the last 3 months. And she has been on tv occasionally.

And you don't consider Becky to be a foreignor because...?

[Scott Hall]

I think the only reason Charlotte has been penciled into this match from Day 1 is to hide the fact that Becky and Rousey
aren't good enough in the ring to be in the Main Event of WM. Charlotte can mask their short comings.

I just think this is completely wrong. Charlotte is probably the best overall female worker they have in the company (Asuka is close), but that doesn't mean Becky and Ronda wouldn't tear the house down. Athletic ability and ring work are great but not necessary to have a great main event. Becky is as good as anyone in that second tier and Ronda is unique in her real fighting background and her agility and quickness in the ring. All it would have taken for them to have a classic was the built in story they already had and an agent with a quarter of a brain. The Charlotte inclusion is a vince thing that has only to do with Vince.

The obvious move from the get go for me would've been Becky/Ronda and Charlotte/Asuka part 2. Charlotte and Asuka probably had the second best match last year (after Rousey's debut) and would've been able to make more magic.

In an ideal world that's the logical thing to do but the dynamic has changed because of Ronda's future being in doubt...

Vince even publicly talked about it last month. She's been rumored to leave after WM for months now and wants
to start a family soon and possibly becoming a part timer after that if she even wanted to come back.

Ronda is a massive asset maybe the biggest in the company. They're going all out to appease her having this match
be the first ever womens WM Main Event, having Joan Jett sing her theme song and they probably don't want her
jobbing.

Andre The Giant didn't lose for 15 years, Undertaker didn't lose at WM for over 20 years and Brock barely ever
loses and he's probably the best comparison to Ronda there is. It might be to early for her to have her first clean
loss and who knows maybe she really doesn't like Becky in real life. Becky is already "made" at this point and I'm not
sure if beating Rousey clean will make much of a difference.

Having Charlotte involved and taking the loss gets them out of having to job Rousey or if they actually do have
Rousey lose she has the excuse she's never been beaten one on one before.

Then there is bonuses of having Charlotte involved because she will make the biggest high profiled womens match
that much better.

This is all being done because of Rouseys impending Free Agency and they can always save Rousey vs. Becky down
the line since there isn't a lot of big profile matches left right now.

[jakecronus8]

I'm not even trusting them to have Becky win. Won't be shocked in the least if they give Charlotte the win.

[tugs]

With all the buzz surrounding Becky and Ronda, if anyone deserves a WM moment, it's Charlotte for a carrying the whole division for years.

[Scott Hall]

I was thinking of the 3 baby faces on their classic WM world tittle chase Kofi, Rollins and Becky I don't think it will be
a clean sweep because it would be to predictable. One of them is going to lose.

I think it's gonna be Rollins he literally has zero buzz behind him right now and next to nobody is talking about this match.
I can't think about a least anticipated WM world tittle match or least talked about then Rollins vs. Lesnar.

Rousey going over (because of her status) with Charlotte losing instead of Becky would not surprise me either.

[tugs]

Unless someone cashes is.

Oh wait...

[Spens1]

That's a huge overreaction. She was the good soldier, and no doubt she'll be rewarded for it in the future - if they don't, that'll be something to quit about, but I expect she will be rewarded down the line. She just happened to be the odd woman out this time. Would I have done it that way? No, but they didn't consult me, and that's business.

She's done nothing this year and sure, they gave her a win over Becky Lynch but that was followed up by her not appearing on tv for weeks.

Her main roster run is an absolute joke and it goes to show you, this company can't book foreigners at all and they don't even try.

She's been champion for the last 3 months. And she has been on tv occasionally.

And you don't consider Becky to be a foreignor because...?

They downright where botching her as well until she took the ball and ran with it as well.

For an international company, WWE does a horrible job at pushing foreign wrestlers (and even when they do, we get Alberto Del Rio or Sheamus ).

edit: also occasional tv, she was the freaking womans champ, she should be on tv every week. Also 3 month reign that came out of nowhere really, they killed her when she lost to Carmella of all people (who is doing next to nothing now).

Their needs to be a clearout anyway of talent, they have way too much and they know too little creatively, that's where the investment needs to go, find a way to get competent booking across the board (not just for one or two storylines in the entire main roster) and get Vince out of creative entirely.

[bestnamezRtaken]

I honestly think if it were just Ronda v Becky as the WM main event, it would disappoint big time. Having Charlotte in the match is an absolute must, for many reasons too. She can carry the weight of the match, make it flow really well, can lead, and then ya know....take the submission loss. I think Ronda v Becky would do better as a main event on maybe a Summer Slam PPV...one that isn't as big. I would say Royal Rumble as I think the main event of a Royal Rumble isn't as big as a main event for Summer Slam but we can't wait another year if they want to do that. Survivor Series, clearly is gonna be WWE 4HW v MMA 4HW I think.