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Post#121 » by doordoor123 » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:32 pm

I feel like every time I watch him he gets more explosive and athletic. It reminds me a lot of when I first saw Pascal Siakam at New Mexico State. Actually, like a lot. They were the same age, both started picking up by the end of the season. Siakam was able to shoot some threes and was known mostly as a shot blocker. And like Siakam, Kabengele is being mocked as a later first round around this time. Just interesting that they have such similarities.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#122 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:52 pm

doordoor123 wrote:I feel like every time I watch him he gets more explosive and athletic. It reminds me a lot of when I first saw Pascal Siakam at New Mexico State. Actually, like a lot. They were the same age, both started picking up by the end of the season. Siakam was able to shoot some threes and was known mostly as a shot blocker. And like Siakam, Kabengele is being mocked as a later first round around this time. Just interesting that they have such similarities.


I think he’s one hot shooting workout from going lottery.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#123 » by doordoor123 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:00 am

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:I feel like every time I watch him he gets more explosive and athletic. It reminds me a lot of when I first saw Pascal Siakam at New Mexico State. Actually, like a lot. They were the same age, both started picking up by the end of the season. Siakam was able to shoot some threes and was known mostly as a shot blocker. And like Siakam, Kabengele is being mocked as a later first round around this time. Just interesting that they have such similarities.


I think he’s one hot shooting workout from going lottery.


Well I think he’s showing right now he has more potential than both Clarke and Hachimura. That turnaround he just shot in the corner was really good. If he can make those kind of shots consistently it’s dangerous.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#124 » by Kalela » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:07 am

He has had trouble scoring on Tillie tonight. Tillie is a much better defender than I had anticipated.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#125 » by clyde21 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:09 am

Kalela wrote:He has had trouble scoring on Tillie tonight. Tillie is a much better defender than I had anticipated.


Tillie is a top 20 guy.

btw, Kab just had a MONSTER block on Clarke...
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#126 » by EvanZ » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:40 am

Kalela wrote:He has had trouble scoring on Tillie tonight. Tillie is a much better defender than I had anticipated.


Tillie is a real talent.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#127 » by Stillwater » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:21 am

Kabengele definitely is still a bit raw defensively from a bb iq standpoint, he needs to stop committing dumb fouls as it significantly contributed to FLST loss in this game with Koumaji having the same problem.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#128 » by doordoor123 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:25 am

EvanZ wrote:
Kalela wrote:He has had trouble scoring on Tillie tonight. Tillie is a much better defender than I had anticipated.


Tillie is a real talent.


Tillie just hasn’t been himself shooting this year, but it’s expected. I hope he stays another year and proves he’s a lottery type talent. He should get more touches with Hachimura and Clarke gone.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#129 » by Catchall » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:01 am

Kabengele will do better in the pros where he'll have space to work with and guards who can get him the ball in better situations to score. Gonzaga packed the paint on defense.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#130 » by Crives » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:05 pm

I hope suns get this guy at 32 if we don’t get Clarke in the 1st
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#131 » by Stillwater » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:51 pm

Crives wrote:I hope suns get this guy at 32 if we don’t get Clarke in the 1st
Kabangele has solidified himself as a late lottery to early 20's prospect imo. No way you get him at 32 unless we find out he's 26
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#132 » by Ruzious » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:51 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Kalela wrote:He has had trouble scoring on Tillie tonight. Tillie is a much better defender than I had anticipated.


Tillie is a real talent.


Tillie just hasn’t been himself shooting this year, but it’s expected. I hope he stays another year and proves he’s a lottery type talent. He should get more touches with Hachimura and Clarke gone.

I was surprised Gonzaga wasn't looking for Tillie at all to shoot 3's. He's a weapon there, and it would help space their offense. I wonder if they make that adjustment next game.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#133 » by Stillwater » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:56 pm

Ruzious wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Tillie is a real talent.


Tillie just hasn’t been himself shooting this year, but it’s expected. I hope he stays another year and proves he’s a lottery type talent. He should get more touches with Hachimura and Clarke gone.

I was surprised Gonzaga wasn't looking for Tillie at all to shoot 3's. He's a weapon there, and it would help space their offense. I wonder if they make that adjustment next game.

He can hit 'em but he really isn't nor has he ever been a high usage outside option.
His defense is what always stands out to me.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#134 » by doordoor123 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:02 pm

Stillwater wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
Tillie just hasn’t been himself shooting this year, but it’s expected. I hope he stays another year and proves he’s a lottery type talent. He should get more touches with Hachimura and Clarke gone.

I was surprised Gonzaga wasn't looking for Tillie at all to shoot 3's. He's a weapon there, and it would help space their offense. I wonder if they make that adjustment next game.

He can hit 'em but he really isn't nor has he ever been a high usage outside option.
His defense is what always stands out to me.


His 8 to 16 footer is really good, but Hachimura has taken up the role of the guy that takes those shots.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#135 » by Ruzious » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:32 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
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Ruzious wrote:I was surprised Gonzaga wasn't looking for Tillie at all to shoot 3's. He's a weapon there, and it would help space their offense. I wonder if they make that adjustment next game.

He can hit 'em but he really isn't nor has he ever been a high usage outside option.
His defense is what always stands out to me.


His 8 to 16 footer is really good, but Hachimura has taken up the role of the guy that takes those shots.

Tillie was killing it from 3 at the end of last season. He made 22 of 26 in a 7 game stretch toward the end of last season. Rui's never been a 3 point shooter.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#136 » by Crives » Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:56 pm

Stillwater wrote:
Crives wrote:I hope suns get this guy at 32 if we don’t get Clarke in the 1st
Kabangele has solidified himself as a late lottery to early 20's prospect imo. No way you get him at 32 unless we find out he's 26


If that’s the case maybe we can use our Milwaukee 1st to move up
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#137 » by No-Man » Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:07 pm

Tillie is a guy that should be drafted late lotto if he clears medicals, he is one of the best shooters in the draft, 6-10, quick as ****, plays team ball, and is a really damn good athlete

The injuries are the only issue
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#138 » by Catchall » Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:57 pm

Fischella wrote:Tillie is a guy that should be drafted late lotto if he clears medicals, he is one of the best shooters in the draft, 6-10, quick as ****, plays team ball, and is a really damn good athlete

The injuries are the only issue


Realistically, Tillie will go in the 2nd round unless he amazes people in workouts. He's a value pick though. This draft is shaping up to have nice depth.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#139 » by GimmeDat » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:48 pm

I think there's still a high variance in where Kab will actually drop. There's a lot of bigs in this draft and if teams prefer the other mid-late 1st guys over him there's a small possibility he drops to early 2nd. Unlikely though.

As for Tillie, I agree, he's a stud, and for all that's said about his 'down shooting year' after the season being interrupted for him, he's still shooting on a 61.1 TS%. I just feel like he hasn't had that momentum behind him and he's going to fall lower than he deserves. That's why I have him very start of my 2nd round on my board, though he's easily a 1st round talent.
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Re: Mfiondu Kabengele 

Post#140 » by No-Man » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:07 am

So you are building your board in relation to where he is going? WTF?

Tillie is easily a lotto talent and he is a junior, like he not building momentum in year 3 should have very little impact on a ranking, if you want to fualt him for the injury record that's another story

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