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NYKnickerbocker wrote:Imma miss you frank
Zion is not better than AD in any way except verical leap and maybe passing, but even that is questionable.NYKAL wrote:I'd roll with Zion over AD. No question
prophet_of_rage wrote:Zion is not better than AD in any way except verical leap and maybe passing, but even that is questionable.NYKAL wrote:I'd roll with Zion over AD. No question
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KnicksGod wrote:magnumt wrote:god shammgod wrote:
i said depending on how much was left we could. and we don't have the assets without zion to get ad & jrue. we don't have the assets to just get davis.
as much as i like mitch. mitch, knox, dennis smith jr and a pick is not getting you anthony davis. and certainly not davis & jrue.
If that package isn't enough for NOLA, then by all means they can keep him.
--Mags
Yeah we can't fall into the trap of just getting some big names and not filling in the blanks, especially the defensive blanks. Neither Kyrie nor KD is great enough or a good enough defender for that threesome to work big if the rest of the team is thin.
It won't work. Philly is getting better and other teams are on the move. AD is hurt a lot. So is Kyrie.
We make a really good deal for AD or make no deal at all ... period. Same goes for KD and Kyrie. They are welcome to come but if it's at the price of giving up Mitch, they can go elsewhere.
I'm not interested in watching the Melo Rerun. No thanks. I'd rather watch a project like Knox and even Frank.
mpharris36 wrote:prophet_of_rage wrote:Zion is not better than AD in any way except verical leap and maybe passing, but even that is questionable.NYKAL wrote:I'd roll with Zion over AD. No question
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its not a 1 for 1 swap though. With contracts needing to match
it would be Zion + Knox + DSJ + Frank...is all that worth AD?
2010 wrote:
The funny thing is this could actually prevent Frank from getting dealt, if his health has a cloud over it. It could make teams weary of a lingering issue or they could use it as an excuse to lowball. All of which could ultimately end increasing the odds he stays on the roster.
If Frank is milking/nursing the injury and actually wants to be here, it would actually be pretty genius.
1999 wrote:2010 wrote:
The funny thing is this could actually prevent Frank from getting dealt, if his health has a cloud over it. It could make teams weary of a lingering issue or they could use it as an excuse to lowball. All of which could ultimately end increasing the odds he stays on the roster.
If Frank is milking/nursing the injury and actually wants to be here, it would actually be pretty genius.
Perry has shown for his short time with the team that he will get value out of his assets. That’s why I’m not worried about Frank. No matter what side of the fence your on regarding Frank Perry will either get something of value for him or be patient enough to hold on to him.
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2010 wrote:KnicksGod wrote:magnumt wrote:
If that package isn't enough for NOLA, then by all means they can keep him.
--Mags
Yeah we can't fall into the trap of just getting some big names and not filling in the blanks, especially the defensive blanks. Neither Kyrie nor KD is great enough or a good enough defender for that threesome to work big if the rest of the team is thin.
It won't work. Philly is getting better and other teams are on the move. AD is hurt a lot. So is Kyrie.
We make a really good deal for AD or make no deal at all ... period. Same goes for KD and Kyrie. They are welcome to come but if it's at the price of giving up Mitch, they can go elsewhere.
I'm not interested in watching the Melo Rerun. No thanks. I'd rather watch a project like Knox and even Frank.
Are you sure? You might be in the minority. Most have either given up on one, or both.
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mpharris36 wrote:prophet_of_rage wrote:Zion is not better than AD in any way except verical leap and maybe passing, but even that is questionable.NYKAL wrote:I'd roll with Zion over AD. No question
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its not a 1 for 1 swap though. With contracts needing to match
it would be Zion + Knox + DSJ + Frank...is all that worth AD?
1999 wrote:mpharris36 wrote:prophet_of_rage wrote:Zion is not better than AD in any way except verical leap and maybe passing, but even that is questionable.
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its not a 1 for 1 swap though. With contracts needing to match
it would be Zion + Knox + DSJ + Frank...is all that worth AD?
Including the 2 1st round draft picks NO would likely ask for? NAH. I also keep Zion no matter what. Anthony Davis for all his talent hasn’t consistently won anything. I don’t care what the stats say something is off. How can Duncan, and KG lead their respective teams without stats as gaudy as AD? Duncan had help but KG, not so much.
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Asked if any surgery could be in place, coach David Fizdale said “Not yet, no.”
“It’s frustrating obviously – more for him than anybody,” he added. “We would’ve loved to have those minutes for him to log in and help his player development. The kid is 20 years old. He’s going to have a great summer, get him healed up and get him ready for next year.”
Although a stout defender, Ntilikina has struggled on the offensive end for two seasons. He came back to training camp bigger and stronger but at 6-6, he still didn’t show the shooting knack [or] creativity to be a point guard. He finished shooting 34.6 percent and is ranked last in the NBA in effective field goal percentage that counts 3-point shots.
The Knicks, according to a source, will explore their options on Draft Night in June, especially after they obtained point guard Dennis Smith Jr. in the Kristaps Porzingis blockbuster trade two months ago. Ntilikina and Smith never played together even as Fizdale wanted to see how their varied skills meshed together in the backcourt.
Fizdale has sidestepped whether he considers Ntilikina a future point guard. He talks more about his versatility in the ability to play off the ball.
“Physically he was totally prepared for this year,” Fizdale said. “That’s why I felt totally comfortable putting him on different people. He really put a lot into his body this summer. This kid, I feel really bad for him. He’s one of our hardest workers.”
Earlier this week, Fizdale demurred on whether Ntilikina is a point guard or not but did say he needs to fine tune his 3-point shot. He called him a “tireless worker’’ but the organization clearly is no longer committed to the Frenchman as their point guard-of-the-future after being drafted 8th by former president Phil Jackson.
2010 wrote:
The funny thing is this could actually prevent Frank from getting dealt, if his health has a cloud over it. It could make teams weary of a lingering issue or they could use it as an excuse to lowball. All of which could ultimately end up increasing the odds he stays on the roster.
If Frank is milking/nursing the injury and actually wants to be here, it would actually be pretty genius.
Richard4444 wrote:2010 wrote:Richard4444 wrote:
The first one is impossible. We dont have salary to give back NO for Jrue and Davis contracts.
The second one is the dream scenario.
Can't we simply absorb Holiday's contract into one of our max slots?
Yes. But would be hard. I dont think we can trade the rookie after signing the contract in the first 30 days. We would have to do 2 deals.
1) After signing Durant and still under the salary cap, we would trade Jrue for 3 First Round Picks without give any salary to NO.
2) Then, we would trade for AD bu matching 80% of his salary ($21,7Mi) without giving the 2019 first.
1 Frank 4855,8
2 Knox 4463,64
3 Dennis 4385,64
4 Dotson 1618,52
5 Trier 3551,1
6 Henry 1645,3
7 Mitch 1559,712
22079,712
I dont think New orleans would accept such deal. But we can try. We can replace Mitch with Jenkins but I think New Orleans would laugh at us.
