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Post#1041 » by NecessaryEvil » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:39 pm

Since my offer is too excessive, what would u guys offer for AD?
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Post#1042 » by qianlong » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:16 pm

Say we end up with the third or fourth pick, which probably means Barrett or Culver.
Would you do a sign and trade Lavine and some salary for Kemba?

We play Kemba/Culver/Porter/Markk /Carter
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Post#1043 » by NecessaryEvil » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:24 pm

qianlong wrote:Say we end up with the third or fourth pick, which probably means Barrett or Culver.
Would you do a sign and trade Lavine and some salary for Kemba?

We play Kemba/Culver/Porter/Markk /Carter


he's 6"1 and 28 yrs old... so probably not
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Post#1044 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:38 pm

qianlong wrote:Say we end up with the third or fourth pick, which probably means Barrett or Culver.
Would you do a sign and trade Lavine and some salary for Kemba?

We play Kemba/Culver/Porter/Markk /Carter


Hell no. :nonono:
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Post#1045 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:40 pm

If the Bulls land at 2, would you trade it and a future protected 1st for Simmons?

His stock is a little down because he hasn’t improved the jumper. But I like his fit with Lavine and Lauri.

Simmons
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Lauri
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With 15 million or so in cap
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Post#1046 » by Chi town » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:19 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:If the Bulls land at 2, would you trade it and a future protected 1st for Simmons?

His stock is a little down because he hasn’t improved the jumper. But I like his fit with Lavine and Lauri.

Simmons
Lavine
Otto
Lauri
WCJ

With 15 million or so in cap


No. IM not a Simmons fan at all
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Post#1047 » by qianlong » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:10 pm

Chi town wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:If the Bulls land at 2, would you trade it and a future protected 1st for Simmons?

His stock is a little down because he hasn’t improved the jumper. But I like his fit with Lavine and Lauri.

Simmons
Lavine
Otto
Lauri
WCJ

With 15 million or so in cap


No. IM not a Simmons fan at all

2nd I’m in doubt, 3rd and it is a deal. The future pick should have a decent protection like top 10.
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Post#1048 » by drosereturn » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:06 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:Since my offer is too excessive, what would u guys offer for AD?

Markk straight up with salary fillers is the highest offer I am willing to go and I am one of the extreme Markk fans.
Its hard passing up a perennial top 5 player who can be impactful as Shaq. Paxson needs to persuade AD to stay like PG13.
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Post#1049 » by sco » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:13 pm

Showtime23 wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Since my offer is too excessive, what would u guys offer for AD?

Markk straight up with salary fillers is the highest offer I am willing to go and I am one of the extreme Markk fans.
Its hard passing up a perennial top 5 player who can be impactful as Shaq. Paxson needs to persuade AD to stay like PG13.

If BOS isn't including Bell, that might be the best they get. I don't think we can make the salaries work if we wanted to find a way to get Holiday too, but I'd love that.
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Post#1050 » by dpucane » Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:58 am

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:If the Bulls land at 2, would you trade it and a future protected 1st for Simmons?

His stock is a little down because he hasn’t improved the jumper. But I like his fit with Lavine and Lauri.

Simmons
Lavine
Otto
Lauri
WCJ

With 15 million or so in cap
Parts of me would love this, but as crazy as it sounds the Kardashian part concerns me more than the shooting part. They're the NBA's sirens.

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Post#1051 » by kodo » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:18 pm

Showtime23 wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Since my offer is too excessive, what would u guys offer for AD?

Markk straight up with salary fillers is the highest offer I am willing to go and I am one of the extreme Markk fans.
Its hard passing up a perennial top 5 player who can be impactful as Shaq. Paxson needs to persuade AD to stay like PG13.


Worth mentioning that GMs & the team had nothing to do with PG staying in OKC. PG said it was Russell Westbrook and the hope that as 2 superstars, they could win together.
Aside from being one of the best human beings I’ve been around, (Russell Westbrook’s) approach to the game is what guys who want to be a part of and build something with. Russ is somebody I can win with and vice versa. So I think with this decision, that makes me much more comfortable knowing I got a shot and a real chance to win with one of the best players in the league.


It would be hard to convince AD that this team at this stage is his best option to win games vs teaming up with Lebron or other stars.
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Post#1052 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:04 pm

kodo wrote:
Showtime23 wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:Since my offer is too excessive, what would u guys offer for AD?

Markk straight up with salary fillers is the highest offer I am willing to go and I am one of the extreme Markk fans.
Its hard passing up a perennial top 5 player who can be impactful as Shaq. Paxson needs to persuade AD to stay like PG13.


Worth mentioning that GMs & the team had nothing to do with PG staying in OKC. PG said it was Russell Westbrook and the hope that as 2 superstars, they could win together.
Aside from being one of the best human beings I’ve been around, (Russell Westbrook’s) approach to the game is what guys who want to be a part of and build something with. Russ is somebody I can win with and vice versa. So I think with this decision, that makes me much more comfortable knowing I got a shot and a real chance to win with one of the best players in the league.


It would be hard to convince AD that this team at this stage is his best option to win games vs teaming up with Lebron or other stars.


We would be serious contenders for the next 8 to 10 years with a core of AD, LaVine, Carter, Porter and say Morant.
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Post#1053 » by GimmeDat » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:18 pm

Our pick and a protected 1st for Simmons, imo, seems like a no brainer, value wise. Don't get the Simmons hate, he's a stud in spite of the fact he can't shoot, and if he could shoot he'd be a 100% star.

Thing is, I don't agree with the assertion that he's a 'PG'. He runs PG, sure, but you can't slot him at PG in a lineup in a lineup that includes 2 more traditionally sized bigs and a big/slow wing in Otto... Simmons is not defending PG's.

So what's the answer there? Skill-sets wise, it actually makes a lot of sense that we can surround Simmons with 3 elite shooters in Lavine, Otto and Lauri. So do you push WCJ to the bench and start Lauri at the 5? I say no, because we would be too poor defensively. And you can't demote Lauri to the bench.. he's too good. Maybe Simmons can start at the 3? That seems like a reach, and you'd need to find another quality back-court player who can shoot if Otto's going to a 6th man role.

So I don't think it makes sense from a roster stand-point, unless you're trading one of our existing bigs for a big haul, which is extremely unlikely. And then there's also Simmons upcoming extension, which will be big.

So I don't see it happening. It's worth discussing these sort of trades for young talent, though. Maybe there's another, better fitting, young talent out there for us.
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Post#1054 » by Proven_Winner » Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:27 am

GimmeDat wrote:Our pick and a protected 1st for Simmons, imo, seems like a no brainer, value wise. Don't get the Simmons hate, he's a stud in spite of the fact he can't shoot, and if he could shoot he'd be a 100% star.

Thing is, I don't agree with the assertion that he's a 'PG'. He runs PG, sure, but you can't slot him at PG in a lineup in a lineup that includes 2 more traditionally sized bigs and a big/slow wing in Otto... Simmons is not defending PG's.

So what's the answer there? Skill-sets wise, it actually makes a lot of sense that we can surround Simmons with 3 elite shooters in Lavine, Otto and Lauri. So do you push WCJ to the bench and start Lauri at the 5? I say no, because we would be too poor defensively. And you can't demote Lauri to the bench.. he's too good. Maybe Simmons can start at the 3? That seems like a reach, and you'd need to find another quality back-court player who can shoot if Otto's going to a 6th man role.

So I don't think it makes sense from a roster stand-point, unless you're trading one of our existing bigs for a big haul, which is extremely unlikely. And then there's also Simmons upcoming extension, which will be big.

So I don't see it happening. It's worth discussing these sort of trades for young talent, though. Maybe there's another, better fitting, young talent out there for us.


I mean there’s nothing wrong with LaVine and Otto moving a spot over if we expect Ben to play point offensively. Only thing is you’d rely on LaVine guarding PGs and that ain’t happening every night. Other than that though it’s enough shooting and defense amongst WCJ, LaVine, Lauri, Otto and Ben.
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Post#1055 » by GimmeDat » Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:54 am

Proven_Winner wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:Our pick and a protected 1st for Simmons, imo, seems like a no brainer, value wise. Don't get the Simmons hate, he's a stud in spite of the fact he can't shoot, and if he could shoot he'd be a 100% star.

Thing is, I don't agree with the assertion that he's a 'PG'. He runs PG, sure, but you can't slot him at PG in a lineup in a lineup that includes 2 more traditionally sized bigs and a big/slow wing in Otto... Simmons is not defending PG's.

So what's the answer there? Skill-sets wise, it actually makes a lot of sense that we can surround Simmons with 3 elite shooters in Lavine, Otto and Lauri. So do you push WCJ to the bench and start Lauri at the 5? I say no, because we would be too poor defensively. And you can't demote Lauri to the bench.. he's too good. Maybe Simmons can start at the 3? That seems like a reach, and you'd need to find another quality back-court player who can shoot if Otto's going to a 6th man role.

So I don't think it makes sense from a roster stand-point, unless you're trading one of our existing bigs for a big haul, which is extremely unlikely. And then there's also Simmons upcoming extension, which will be big.

So I don't see it happening. It's worth discussing these sort of trades for young talent, though. Maybe there's another, better fitting, young talent out there for us.


I mean there’s nothing wrong with LaVine and Otto moving a spot over if we expect Ben to play point offensively. Only thing is you’d rely on LaVine guarding PGs and that ain’t happening every night. Other than that though it’s enough shooting and defense amongst WCJ, LaVine, Lauri, Otto and Ben.


I'd feel more comfortable with Lavine defending PG's than Otto defending 2's. Even Ben defending 3's seems like a little bit of a stretch.
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Post#1056 » by sco » Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:02 pm

GimmeDat wrote:
Proven_Winner wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:Our pick and a protected 1st for Simmons, imo, seems like a no brainer, value wise. Don't get the Simmons hate, he's a stud in spite of the fact he can't shoot, and if he could shoot he'd be a 100% star.

Thing is, I don't agree with the assertion that he's a 'PG'. He runs PG, sure, but you can't slot him at PG in a lineup in a lineup that includes 2 more traditionally sized bigs and a big/slow wing in Otto... Simmons is not defending PG's.

So what's the answer there? Skill-sets wise, it actually makes a lot of sense that we can surround Simmons with 3 elite shooters in Lavine, Otto and Lauri. So do you push WCJ to the bench and start Lauri at the 5? I say no, because we would be too poor defensively. And you can't demote Lauri to the bench.. he's too good. Maybe Simmons can start at the 3? That seems like a reach, and you'd need to find another quality back-court player who can shoot if Otto's going to a 6th man role.

So I don't think it makes sense from a roster stand-point, unless you're trading one of our existing bigs for a big haul, which is extremely unlikely. And then there's also Simmons upcoming extension, which will be big.

So I don't see it happening. It's worth discussing these sort of trades for young talent, though. Maybe there's another, better fitting, young talent out there for us.


I mean there’s nothing wrong with LaVine and Otto moving a spot over if we expect Ben to play point offensively. Only thing is you’d rely on LaVine guarding PGs and that ain’t happening every night. Other than that though it’s enough shooting and defense amongst WCJ, LaVine, Lauri, Otto and Ben.


I'd feel more comfortable with Lavine defending PG's than Otto defending 2's. Even Ben defending 3's seems like a little bit of a stretch.

If you aren't comfortable with Simmons guarding guards, I don't think you give up 2 1sts for him when you are essentially set with your other 4 starting positions and his game is incomplete.

In today's NBA, you want 4 3pt shooters and one other guy. Moreover, when the guy with the ball most of the time isn't a 3pt threat, it allows an extra player to cheat into the paint, making your offense less effective. Milwaukee gets away with it Giannis is so good (and cheats with his steps - but I digress) and BroLo is really a good 3pt shooter. So unless WCJ makes huge strides, it's tough.

I'd much rather overpay for Brogdon and let WCJ play inside and run distributed playmaking, with Zach doing most of the work.
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Post#1057 » by NecessaryEvil » Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:01 pm

Ben would have to sign an extension before I made that trade. I see him dipping to LA the first chance he gets
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Post#1058 » by TheSuzerain » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:15 pm

Lavine for the Lakers pick (and cap space).
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Post#1059 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Apr 1, 2019 1:05 am

TheSuzerain wrote:Lavine for the Lakers pick (and cap space).


Get over it. LaVine is not going anywhere, but the all-star game next season. :roll:

You were wrong as usual.
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Post#1060 » by Ccwatercraft » Mon Apr 1, 2019 1:45 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:Lavine for the Lakers pick (and cap space).


Seriously?

I can only assume this post is coming from a Laker fan or someone that isn't yet ready to admit they were wrong about Lavine.

Is it both?

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