2019 NBA Draft thread

Dn4sty · Post #101 » by **Dn4sty** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:30 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:What is everyone's thoughts on Bol Bol? Seems like a high risk/ high reward type of player. If he falls far enough I'm not against taking a chance.

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He scares and intrigues me at the same time. I feel like he could be Embiid like, but also wash out super fast. I feel like he’s a pick you take if your OKC and you acquire a second first round pick and he drops somewhat

Dn4sty · Post #102 » by **Dn4sty** » Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:32 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:If Culver really falls that far then I'm even more on board with trading Adams to Minnesota if that deal is on the table.

https://www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draft

Yeah I don’t think this mock is close to right. It also has Brandon Clarke as a 2nd round pick. I’m higher on Culver than ANY wing in this draft.

Post #103 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:24 am

Dn4sty wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:If Culver really falls that far then I'm even more on board with trading Adams to Minnesota if that deal is on the table.

https://www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draft

Yeah I don’t think this mock is close to right. It also has Brandon Clarke as a 2nd round pick. I’m higher on Culver than ANY wing in this draft.

I thought it was a little low too. A final four appearance doesn’t hurt either even though he didn’t play particularly well.

acheema0 · Post #104 » by **acheema0** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:42 am

Dn4sty wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:If Culver really falls that far then I'm even more on board with trading Adams to Minnesota if that deal is on the table.

https://www.nbadraft.net/2019mock_draft

Yeah I don’t think this mock is close to right. It also has Brandon Clarke as a 2nd round pick. I’m higher on Culver than ANY wing in this draft.

Same. I LOVE Culver. His feel is way better than Barrett's, he just looks more smooth while playing, and his shot selection is so much better. I also think he's better than Barrett on defense. On-ball is comparable but Culver is akin to a shutdown corner the way he plays defense off the ball.

As for Clarke, I really like him as a prospect but I think his age could really hurt him tbh I wouldn't be surprised if he fell to the early 20's. My favorite potential picks for us are Matisse Thybulle (who has been discussed), Cam Johnson (Great shooter high IQ player great rebounder for his position, but he is kind of old so idk if he's our type of guy), or Grant Williams (same on the fact that he's old but hes great pretty much everywhere but rebounding, and his shooting is okay but could be better).

Thunder Up · Post #105 » by **Thunder Up** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 2:59 am

gimme Carsen Edwards asap

acheema0 · Post #106 » by **acheema0** » Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:12 pm

Thunder Up wrote:gimme Carsen Edwards asap

extremely easy pass

Post #107 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Apr 3, 2019 2:08 am

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-daily-60-pick-nba-mock-draft-4-2-19/

I would be happy if this worked out. Sometimes I think these big guys need a year or two to let their bodies develop.

Dn4sty · Post #108 » by **Dn4sty** » Wed Apr 3, 2019 4:38 am

ThunderBolt wrote:http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-daily-60-pick-nba-mock-draft-4-2-19/

I would be happy if this worked out. Sometimes I think these big guys need a year or two to let their bodies develop.

Picking centers in first round scare me. The league is moving more and more away from them IMO. I know you can look at Embiid, Towns, Jokic, etc... but I think you can find decent quality centers later in the draft and now spend one of the few first rounders OKC will have over the next few years on a center.

If that mock turned out to be accurate there are multiple guys I’d take over Bol (Dosunmu, Thybulle, Herro just to name a few).

Post #109 » by **ThunderBolt** » Wed Apr 3, 2019 11:32 am

Dn4sty wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-daily-60-pick-nba-mock-draft-4-2-19/

I would be happy if this worked out. Sometimes I think these big guys need a year or two to let their bodies develop.

Picking centers in first round scare me. The league is moving more and more away from them IMO. I know you can look at Embiid, Towns, Jokic, etc... but I think you can find decent quality centers later in the draft and now spend one of the few first rounders OKC will have over the next few years on a center.

If that mock turned out to be accurate there are multiple guys I’d take over Bol (Dosunmu, Thybulle, Herro just to name a few).

If our pick is around 18 then I’m ok with that. Especially because he isn’t a traditional center. He has range to his game. I’m more concerned about durability with him. However if the thunder brought him along slowly then perhaps his defensive defencies and thin body will improve in his second year. I realize managing injuries isn’t this organizations strong suit.

However I actually think centers are becoming undervalued. I don’t like what we pay Adams for what he does even though I like him as a player. However you still need a good center to win and I don’t think taking one around pick 20 is a reach.

Dn4sty · Post #110 » by **Dn4sty** » Sat Apr 6, 2019 4:39 am

ThunderBolt wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-daily-60-pick-nba-mock-draft-4-2-19/

I would be happy if this worked out. Sometimes I think these big guys need a year or two to let their bodies develop.

Picking centers in first round scare me. The league is moving more and more away from them IMO. I know you can look at Embiid, Towns, Jokic, etc... but I think you can find decent quality centers later in the draft and now spend one of the few first rounders OKC will have over the next few years on a center.

If that mock turned out to be accurate there are multiple guys I’d take over Bol (Dosunmu, Thybulle, Herro just to name a few).

If our pick is around 18 then I’m ok with that. Especially because he isn’t a traditional center. He has range to his game. I’m more concerned about durability with him. However if the thunder brought him along slowly then perhaps his defensive defencies and thin body will improve in his second year. I realize managing injuries isn’t this organizations strong suit.

However I actually think centers are becoming undervalued. I don’t like what we pay Adams for what he does even though I like him as a player. However you still need a good center to win and I don’t think taking one around pick 20 is a reach.

I’ve actually changed my mind. I’m all aboard the Bol train

JustOneFix · Post #111 » by **JustOneFix** » Sat Apr 6, 2019 12:38 pm

I thought we don't have a pick this year?

Kizz Fastfists · Post #112 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Sat Apr 6, 2019 2:44 pm

JustOneFix wrote:I thought we don't have a pick this year?

OKC should have a 1st every year now. They own their own this year and in 2021. Their 2020 is owned by Philly, but 1-20 protected and that seems unlikely to convey. Their 2022 is owned by Atlanta, but lottery protected and that seems highly unlikely to convey. They have no 2nd round pick this year and assuming they keep those two first round picks they will have no 2nd round pick in 2022, 2023, 2024 or 2025.

JustOneFix · Post #113 » by **JustOneFix** » Sat Apr 6, 2019 7:16 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
OKC should have a 1st every year now. They own their own this year and in 2021. Their 2020 is owned by Philly, but 1-20 protected and that seems unlikely to convey. Their 2022 is owned by Atlanta, but lottery protected and that seems highly unlikely to convey. They have no 2nd round pick this year and assuming they keep those two first round picks they will have no 2nd round pick in 2022, 2023, 2024 or 2025.

Thanks for the clarification. I though we have no pick because we had nothing to offer at the trade deadline. Now i see that we couldn't trade pick, not because we don't have one, but cause of the consecutive rule.

This is good news. Draft seems deep (although I'm not a expert, i barely pay attention to college basketball) and our record isn't that great, maybe we could get someone decent so i don't have to watch Nader next year.

Mattv · Post #114 » by **Mattv** » Sat Apr 6, 2019 8:04 pm

MFIONDU KABENGELE would be a great pick for Okc.

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Dn4sty · Post #115 » by **Dn4sty** » Sun Apr 7, 2019 1:38 am

JustOneFix wrote:
Kizz Fastfists wrote:
OKC should have a 1st every year now. They own their own this year and in 2021. Their 2020 is owned by Philly, but 1-20 protected and that seems unlikely to convey. Their 2022 is owned by Atlanta, but lottery protected and that seems highly unlikely to convey. They have no 2nd round pick this year and assuming they keep those two first round picks they will have no 2nd round pick in 2022, 2023, 2024 or 2025.

Thanks for the clarification. I though we have no pick because we had nothing to offer at the trade deadline. Now i see that we couldn't trade pick, not because we don't have one, but cause of the consecutive rule.

This is good news. Draft seems deep (although I'm not a expert, i barely pay attention to college basketball) and our record isn't that great, maybe we could get someone decent so i don't have to watch Nader next year.

This is anything but a clarification. OKC owes the following picks

2020 1st (top 20 protected), currently owned by Orlando
2022 1st (lottery protected), currently owned by Atlanta.

So it’s possible these picks don’t convey and OKC has all of them going forward. Kizz however is projecting what he thinks will happen in the following few years with the team. Basically he thinks they will pick 1-19 next year and miss the playoffs by 2022.

There is no way to know this is true. However, Kizz is always doomsday on the Thunder.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #116 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Sun Apr 7, 2019 1:57 am

Considering that right now they are looking at pick 20/21 this year and they have no cap space or trade assets to improve do you really think expecting them to pick 21+ next year makes sense?

Dn4sty · Post #117 » by **Dn4sty** » Sun Apr 7, 2019 2:09 am

Kizz Fastfists wrote:Considering that right now they are looking at pick 20/21 this year and they have no cap space or trade assets to improve do you really think expecting them to pick 21+ next year makes sense?

Sure I think your scenario is plausible, but you presented it as fact. It’s not

Kizz Fastfists · Post #118 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Sun Apr 7, 2019 2:17 am

What did I say that you believe was inaccurate? I listed the exact protections of the picks. If you are saying it is plausible then what is the issue with me calling them "unlikely to convey". I didn't say OKC couldn't find a way to lose them, but I think we can all agree that it is VERY unlikely they make the playoffs in the '21-'22 season with the way Russ is already dropping off and the realistic option that PG will be gone to a team that he thinks he could win with. The 2020 pick you could call a coin flip, but I think it is closer to 70/30 they keep it. I did say Philly instead of Orlando since the pick was initially traded to Philly and I forget Orlando had it now, because that detail isn't relevant.

Funcrusher · Post #119 » by **Funcrusher** » Sun Apr 7, 2019 9:19 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-daily-60-pick-nba-mock-draft-4-2-19/

I would be happy if this worked out. Sometimes I think these big guys need a year or two to let their bodies develop.

it's pretty unlikely Bol falls that far unless his medicals are so bad he scares lotto teams away ala Porter Jr., but in the unlikely event that does happen if we ended up in that position i'd be content.

Funcrusher · Post #120 » by **Funcrusher** » Sun Apr 7, 2019 9:56 pm

guys i think we should target in our range, in order of demand:

1. Talen Horton-Tucker: upside pick, positional versatility, improves depth at the guard/wing spot
2. Tyler Herro: fills an immediate role as a shooter at the guard position, off-ball weapon, plug and play
3. Deividas Sirvydis: see Herro
4. Matisse Thybulle: 3 and D guy, improves depth at the guard/wing spot
5. Grant Williams: physical screen setter, smart help defender, can play off-ball, potential long-term upside

if we end up with any of those guys i'll be a happy camper.