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Re: 3/31 | G77: Dallas Mavericks at Oklahoma City Thunder - 3:30PM CST 

Post#81 » by Pillendreher » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:19 pm

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1bigfan13 wrote:Who else is looking forward to Russ' dismissive post game interview where he shakes his cup of ice/water while stubbornly claiming everything is fine.


thunder fans empowered this in 2016-17. can't turn back now.


Yes, Thunder fans turned the choir boy into this. That's what happened.
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Post#82 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:21 pm

I realize we say this about every other week but this may indeed be the worst loss of the season.
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Post#83 » by 1bigfan13 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:21 pm

Speaking of Russ....once again his technical foul comes back to bite his team in the ass. That 1 point made a huge difference.

Whether the tech was legit or not is debatable. Russ still shouldn't have put himself in that position by overreacting to a play that wasn't malicious in the least bit. The Thunder's margin for error is too small to gift teams free points.
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Post#84 » by slick_watts » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:21 pm

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it's downright amazing 30 nba teams passed up on this absolute phenom and he had to play a whole season in korea. you're making all this up in your head.


I don't know which one is worse. Believing in delusion that's proved to be a delusion (Ferguson), or believing in delusion that has yet to be proven as delusion (Burton).



The Ferguson thing is absolutely worse. It the whole definition of insanity thing. We've watched struggle to make any kind of positive impact for the better part of 76 games. He basically regressed to a 4 ppg scorer at this point. As I stated yesterday, he's somehow managed to morph into more of an offensive liability that Andre Roberson.

At least with someone like Burton we the fans can sell ourselves on the notion that his skill set will provide some sort of positive impact on the lineup.


ferguson has for most of the season made a positive impact with the starters relative to other options. the starters have been a lot less good recently-- but it's difficult to isolate the cause. some of it is paul george being less good. some of it is adams being less good. ferguson being worse than andre roberson on offense is bad, but burton and diallo may be even worse than that since both are worse shooters than him and will rarely have the ball to do anything with it in our offense. in this comparison between burton / ferguson / diallo, ferguson's reticence to shoot may actually be a relative benefit.

the real difference between the three is that ferguson is at least capable on defense. burton and diallo are both clueless. ferguson has been worse lately that he was earlier in the year but still clearly better than g-league scrubs.
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Post#85 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:22 pm

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1bigfan13 wrote:Who else is looking forward to Russ' dismissive post game interview where he shakes his cup of ice/water while stubbornly claiming everything is fine.


thunder fans empowered this in 2016-17. can't turn back now.

Every teams casual fans are stupid and you know that. This issue is bigger than that.
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Post#86 » by slick_watts » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:24 pm

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1bigfan13 wrote:Who else is looking forward to Russ' dismissive post game interview where he shakes his cup of ice/water while stubbornly claiming everything is fine.


thunder fans empowered this in 2016-17. can't turn back now.


Yes, Thunder fans turned the choir boy into this. That's what happened.


you know what happened just as well as i do. thunder fandom, the team, and organization decided a westbrook mvp and a post-kd moral victory was more important than anything else. so those traits of westbrook we are hand wringing over now were lionized then. e.g. "now i do what i want". e.g. "he's our point guard". criticism of these traits was off limits. that train was given too much momentum to stop now.
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Post#87 » by slick_watts » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:26 pm

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1bigfan13 wrote:Who else is looking forward to Russ' dismissive post game interview where he shakes his cup of ice/water while stubbornly claiming everything is fine.


thunder fans empowered this in 2016-17. can't turn back now.


Every teams casual fans are stupid and you know that. This issue is bigger than that.


of course it's bigger than that. the team itself is complicit as well. maybe westbrook wouldn't have changed anyway, but whatever chance there was of it went to zero after 2016-17.
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Post#88 » by Pillendreher » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:28 pm

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thunder fans empowered this in 2016-17. can't turn back now.


Yes, Thunder fans turned the choir boy into this. That's what happened.


you know what happened just as well as i do. thunder fandom, the team, and organization decided a westbrook mvp and a post-kd moral victory was more important than anything else. so those traits of westbrook we are hand wringing over now were lionized then. e.g. "now i do what i want". e.g. "he's our point guard". criticism of these traits was off limits. that train was given too much momentum to stop now.


Nope.
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Post#89 » by slick_watts » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:30 pm

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Yes, Thunder fans turned the choir boy into this. That's what happened.


you know what happened just as well as i do. thunder fandom, the team, and organization decided a westbrook mvp and a post-kd moral victory was more important than anything else. so those traits of westbrook we are hand wringing over now were lionized then. e.g. "now i do what i want". e.g. "he's our point guard". criticism of these traits was off limits. that train was given too much momentum to stop now.


Nope.


let me guess, the refs did it.
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Post#90 » by Pillendreher » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:31 pm

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you know what happened just as well as i do. thunder fandom, the team, and organization decided a westbrook mvp and a post-kd moral victory was more important than anything else. so those traits of westbrook we are hand wringing over now were lionized then. e.g. "now i do what i want". e.g. "he's our point guard". criticism of these traits was off limits. that train was given too much momentum to stop now.


Nope.


let me guess, the refs did it.


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Post#91 » by acheema0 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:33 pm

1bigfan13 wrote:Speaking of Russ....once again his technical foul comes back to bite his team in the ass. That 1 point made a huge difference.

Whether the tech was legit or not is debatable. Russ still shouldn't have put himself in that position by overreacting to a play that wasn't malicious in the least bit. The Thunder's margin for error is too small to gift teams free points.


I mean come on lol if you want to criticize Russ do it for that brain-dead three he took from 5 feet behind the line or him throwing it out of bounds trying to pass it to Steve at the end. But that play didnt warrant a tech Harris was holding his arm and he pulled it away.
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Post#92 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:34 pm

One of the worst season as a Thunder fan. We had 2 greats months of MVPG and sweeping the Jazz/Blazers. Rest was a nightmare.

The worst part is that except Roberson our team was healthy during all season (Westbrook missed some games and PG13 is a bit hurt but nothing really serious)
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Post#93 » by slick_watts » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:34 pm

bondom34 sneaking into game threads and +1'ing random comments is weird. like a voyeur fetish. come out and chat, bro! what did you think about the game.
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Post#94 » by 1bigfan13 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:36 pm

slick_watts wrote:
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thunder fans empowered this in 2016-17. can't turn back now.


Yes, Thunder fans turned the choir boy into this. That's what happened.


you know what happened just as well as i do. thunder fandom, the team, and organization decided a westbrook mvp and a post-kd moral victory was more important than anything else. so those traits of westbrook we are hand wringing over now were lionized then. e.g. "now i do what i want". e.g. "he's our point guard". criticism of these traits was off limits. that train was given too much momentum to stop now.


You're absolutely right about that. I just had all the Westbrook fanboys coming at me on Twitter this afternoon because I dared to point out that his his antics (technical fouls) were hurting a team that was already having a hard enough time beating lottery bound teams, and that he needed to check his temper and stop giving away free points with the techs.

The Cult of Westbrook are 10 cups into that kool-aid.
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Post#95 » by bondom34 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:38 pm

slick_watts wrote:bondom34 sneaking into game threads and +1'ing random comments is weird. like a voyeur fetish. come out and chat, bro! what did you think about the game.

I watched zero minutes of this game, and zero of the last few weeks.

Your fetish with me is strange. But your posts read exactly as I could have scripted them. It's quite amazing I don't need to know a thing to know what you'll say.
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Post#96 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:40 pm

slick_watts wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:
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thunder fans empowered this in 2016-17. can't turn back now.


Yes, Thunder fans turned the choir boy into this. That's what happened.


you know what happened just as well as i do. thunder fandom, the team, and organization decided a westbrook mvp and a post-kd moral victory was more important than anything else. so those traits of westbrook we are hand wringing over now were lionized then. e.g. "now i do what i want". e.g. "he's our point guard". criticism of these traits was off limits. that train was given too much momentum to stop now.


I dont know about that. Even Berry Tramel was open to the idea of moving on from Westbrook this week. Even among causal fans they are growing weary of his antics and poor decision making. The casual fans simply follow the lead of whatever they are told- “Triple doubles are great. Stache brothers are great. Steven Adams is an all star.”
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Post#97 » by slick_watts » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:41 pm

bondom34 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:bondom34 sneaking into game threads and +1'ing random comments is weird. like a voyeur fetish. come out and chat, bro! what did you think about the game.

I watched zero minutes of this game, and zero of the last few weeks.

Your fetish with me is strange. But your posts read exactly as I could have scripted them. It's quite amazing I don't need to know a thing to know what you'll say.


there's a gentleman's bet on DT whether schroder or westbrook will finish with the higher ts% this season. it's been so close that its lent some extra meaning to the games down the stretch, like when you have a fantasy stake in the team. so i'm still watching and paying attention.

westbrook will have gained some more ground after this one.
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Post#98 » by acheema0 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:41 pm

Read on Twitter

he went with the "next question" this time wow
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Post#99 » by slick_watts » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:44 pm

acheema0 wrote:
Read on Twitter

he went with the "next question" this time wow


i don't blame him for being mean here, the media is clearly interrupting russ practicing bending over for the warriors in the 1st round.
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Post#100 » by 1bigfan13 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:44 pm

acheema0 wrote:I mean come on lol if you want to criticize Russ do it for that brain-dead three he took from 5 feet behind the line or him throwing it out of bounds trying to pass it to Steve at the end. But that play didnt warrant a tech Harris was holding his arm and he pulled it away.


You're right but the main point of my post was the free point he gave away in a tightly contested game. And of course the game came down to that one point.

As aggravating as his shot selection can be at times, that bad three point attempt didn't put a point on the board like his tech did.

Bottom line is he just needs to be better in areas that he can control, i.e., shot selection, technical fouls, etc. Unfortunately he's 11 years in, so he won't be changing.

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