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2019 NBA Draft Prep

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What direction should Hawks go with their lottery picks?

Sekou Doumbouya
19
18%
Coby White
4
4%
Jaxson Hayes
9
9%
Nassir Little
5
5%
Cam Reddish
35
34%
Bol Bol
14
14%
Brandon Clarke
10
10%
Trade the picks
7
7%
 
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2201 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Apr 2, 2019 4:37 pm

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Post#2202 » by marco102 » Tue Apr 2, 2019 4:54 pm

Seems like Cam Reddish will be teaming up with Klutch Sports.

https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/03/28/cam-reddish-klutch-sports-and-the-ncaa-tournament/

I want nothing to do with that drama filled agency. I do want the Hawks to draft Cam, but if he reaches his potential I feel Klutch will try to move him to a "bigger" market.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2203 » by Hazer » Tue Apr 2, 2019 4:55 pm

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Hazer wrote:Trae/Huerter/Luka/Collins/WCJ?JJJ?Star? Good LAWD, can-o-worms, discuss...



That would be one of the greatest offensive lineups in NBA history...on paper at least.

It's unlikely...but who would have predicted a year ago Dallas having both Luka and Kristaps?

Dream big, Haze. That would indeed be something!!

It’s a crazy and unlikely scenario. And there wouldn’t be much D. With that lineup you wouldn’t need any :o
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2204 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Apr 2, 2019 5:00 pm

marco102 wrote:Seems like Cam Reddish will be teaming up with Klutch Sports.

https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/2019/03/28/cam-reddish-klutch-sports-and-the-ncaa-tournament/

I want nothing to do with that drama filled agency. I do want the Hawks to draft Cam, but if he reaches his potential I feel Klutch will try to move him to a "bigger" market.



This does indeed make him a much less attractive prospect to me as well.

Not a deal-breaker, but it gives me pause when consider his camp and decision makers moving forward.

(Is he still attending classes? Did he even return to NC after Sunday's loss?)

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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2205 » by personanongrata » Tue Apr 2, 2019 5:20 pm

One guy we might take in the 2nd if he's there is Tyler Herro. There isn't a lot of shooting in this draft, and he can shoot.
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Post#2206 » by Spud2nique » Tue Apr 2, 2019 5:40 pm

Hazer wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:
Hazer wrote:I just had the craziest draft scenario pop into my head. IF the Hawks land #1 pick AND the Mavs pick conveys at say #7, leaving Dallas without a 1st round pick this year, Hawks could feasibly draft Zion, offer him to Dallas for Luka, then trade Prince and #7 for say WCJ or JJJ. Trae/Huerter/Luka/Collins/WCJ?JJJ?Star? Good LAWD, can-o-worms, discuss...


At that point, would we be inviting Bob on your yacht for Sunday brunch? :lol:

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Trae and Luka fans break bread (who am I kidding top notch gourmet brunch) together! :nod:

Unfortunately I didn’t win the $750mill Powerball, so there’s only room for 1 on my fishing kayak :lol:


Maybe slide your wife a glass of red wine before letting her know we are setting sail on the kayak!

Doesn’t matter to me if your a millionaire, matters that you’re a diehard Hawks fan!

Let’s paddle towards the sun!

The future is bright! :nod:
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2207 » by King Ken » Tue Apr 2, 2019 6:42 pm

I like Klutch Sports. They look out for their clients
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Post#2208 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Apr 2, 2019 6:49 pm

King Ken wrote:I like Klutch Sports. They look out for their clients



1. That they do.

2. I also think they lead their clients to folly and failure.

John Wall, LeBron and Anthony Davis are each going through worst professional stretches of their careers. I don't see it as a coincidence.

But...at least they have money. That's what it's all about, right?
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Post#2209 » by Spud2nique » Tue Apr 2, 2019 6:51 pm

King Ken wrote:I like Klutch Sports. They look out for their clients



Cam’s got such a beautiful release on his shot. He needs to get on a team with a teammate that would fire him up (Trae) motor wise. Or a coach (LP) to challenge him on D and take pride in having the privilege to be out there.

On second thought, he needs to fire it up himself. If he needs somebody else to fire him up he might not want it that bad. Let’s see what he does in the workouts.
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Post#2210 » by Spud2nique » Tue Apr 2, 2019 6:54 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
King Ken wrote:I like Klutch Sports. They look out for their clients



1. That they do.

2. I also think the lead their clients to folly and failure.

Wall, LeBron and Anthony Davis are each going through worst professional stretches of their careers. I don't see it as a concidence.

But...at least they have money. That's what it's all about, right?



Can these kids sign with :

Thank God I made the NBA and I won’t be greedy agency?

:noway:

I understand wanting to maximize but this new age of agencies demanding teams and players is a bunch of crap to me. Pardon my language. I was born in the wrong era, I shoulda been in my 40’s in the 80’s not now. This is too much...
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Post#2211 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Apr 2, 2019 7:00 pm

Spud2nique wrote:Can these kids sign with :

Thank God I made the NBA and I won’t be greedy agency?

:noway:

I understand wanting to maximize but this new age of agencies demanding teams and players is a bunch of crap to me. Pardon my language. I was born in the wrong era, I shoulda been in my 40’s in the 80’s not now. This is too much...




I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at. I just see Rich Paul pulling a number of power moves that haven't played out well. Specifically, LeBron to LA and Anthony Davis's trade request mid-season.


The Lakers have gone from complete optimism a year ago to a clown show in record time. New Orleans was in the second round of the playoffs 11 months ago, now they're looking at a complete top-to-bottom overhaul.

And the players don't seem particularly happy at the moment either.


I think Klutch Sports helps athletes wield a certain amount of power past players have never gotten...but they don't seem to have much of a plan beyond that. I wouldn't want to have to negotiate with any of them if I didn't have to.




NOTE: I foresee Klutch helping Draymond get a huuuuge deal soon, but on a last place team where he will never receive the accolades or team success he's gotten thus far. That seems to be their specialty.
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Post#2212 » by Spud2nique » Tue Apr 2, 2019 7:12 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:Can these kids sign with :

Thank God I made the NBA and I won’t be greedy agency?

:noway:

I understand wanting to maximize but this new age of agencies demanding teams and players is a bunch of crap to me. Pardon my language. I was born in the wrong era, I shoulda been in my 40’s in the 80’s not now. This is too much...




I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at. I just see Rich Paul pulling a number of power moves that haven't played out well. Specifically, LeBron to LA and Anthony Davis's trade request mid-season.


The Lakers have gone from complete optimism a year ago to a clown show in record time. New Orleans was in the second round of the playoffs 11 months ago, now they're looking at a complete top-to-bottom overhaul.

And the players don't seem particularly happy at the moment either.


I think Klutch Sports helps athletes wield a certain amount of power past players have never gotten...but they don't seem to have much of a plan beyond that. I wouldn't want to have to negotiate with any of them if I didn't have to.




NOTE: I foresee Klutch helping Draymond get a huuuuge deal soon, but on a last place team where he will never receive the accolades or team success he's gotten thus far. That seems to be their specialty.



I guess I’m just getting at what you just had to clarify. :lol: Control by agencies and players. I guess that’s just how it works today and perhaps in the past. Possible just more media now and that’s why it’s scrutinized.
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Post#2213 » by socialsavant » Tue Apr 2, 2019 7:17 pm

I think Klutch has gotten a ton of unjust criticism due in large part to their "celebrity" status. In reality, they've done a lot of good by their clients, which is who they work for. There's a reason some of the highest profile athletes are signing with them and I think they deserve more respect than the media gives them. Just my opinion.
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Post#2214 » by King Ken » Tue Apr 2, 2019 7:32 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
King Ken wrote:I like Klutch Sports. They look out for their clients



1. That they do.

2. I also think they lead their clients to folly and failure.

John Wall, LeBron and Anthony Davis are each going through worst professional stretches of their careers. I don't see it as a coincidence.

But...at least they have money. That's what it's all about, right?

LeBron won a title in Cleveland with Klutch as well as Miami.

John Wall got smart and took the money before his Achilles injury where he could have gotten IT0 or Boogie and got nothing. I promise you, he is happy with his decision.

Outside of KCP, Klutch has made great decisions for their clients.

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent-client-list/Rich-Paul/258

Bazley made a decision lauded in the industry.

Bledsoe took less to stay with Milwaukee because that's where he wanted to be. He didn't have an agent like take the most money. Rich was looking out for him. He wanted to be happy.

Miles Bridges is happy in Charlotte
T. Ferguson is happy

Cory Jo is happy in Indy

D. Waiters, J. Smith and AD are his only unhappy clients. The rest are okay with their current situation.

Klutch and Rich is doing a great job.
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Post#2215 » by King Ken » Tue Apr 2, 2019 7:34 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:Can these kids sign with :

Thank God I made the NBA and I won’t be greedy agency?

:noway:

I understand wanting to maximize but this new age of agencies demanding teams and players is a bunch of crap to me. Pardon my language. I was born in the wrong era, I shoulda been in my 40’s in the 80’s not now. This is too much...




I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at. I just see Rich Paul pulling a number of power moves that haven't played out well. Specifically, LeBron to LA and Anthony Davis's trade request mid-season.


The Lakers have gone from complete optimism a year ago to a clown show in record time. New Orleans was in the second round of the playoffs 11 months ago, now they're looking at a complete top-to-bottom overhaul.

And the players don't seem particularly happy at the moment either.


I think Klutch Sports helps athletes wield a certain amount of power past players have never gotten...but they don't seem to have much of a plan beyond that. I wouldn't want to have to negotiate with any of them if I didn't have to.




NOTE: I foresee Klutch helping Draymond get a huuuuge deal soon, but on a last place team where he will never receive the accolades or team success he's gotten thus far. That seems to be their specialty.

The Laker optimism was based in landing Bron and PG. Not in the current team. You acting like a realgm kid and not a smart person. Rich has done a tremendous job.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2216 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Apr 2, 2019 7:40 pm

King Ken wrote:The Laker optimism was based in landing Bron and PG. Not in the current team. You acting like a realgm kid and not a
smart person. Rich has done a tremendous job.


King Ken wrote:LeBron won a title in Cleveland with Klutch as well as Miami.




But I'm not a kid, Ken. I'm an adult. A middle aged man. Klutch has helped maximize LeBron's financial earnings. Undeniable.

But, you can make the argument that LeBron & Klutch got huuuge contracts for Tristan and JR Smith back in Cleveland. You can also make the argument that those deals handcuffed the franchise, prevented them from acquiring better players, a deeper roster and thus limited Cavs to only winning a single title.


Tristan is not a max player. He got his money. But the team couldn't afford to improve the roster. As a result, Klay and Draymond have as many championships as Lebron -- and are likely to exceed that number this summer.



Meanwhile Cavs are in shambles. Lakers are in shambles. Miami Heat are in shambles....

you noticing a trend?
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Post#2217 » by King Ken » Tue Apr 2, 2019 7:42 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
King Ken wrote:The Laker optimism was based in landing Bron and PG. Not in the current team. You acting like a realgm kid and not a
smart person. Rich has done a tremendous job.



But I'm not a kid, Ken. I'm an adult. A middle aged man. Klutch has helped maximize LeBron's financial earnings. Undeniable.

But, you can make the argument that LeBron & Klutch got huuuge contracts for Tristan and JR Smith back in Cleveland. You can also make the argument that those deals handcuffed the franchise, prevented them from acquiring better players, a deeper roster and thus limited Cavs to only winning a single title.


Tristan is not a max player. He got his money. But the team couldn't afford to improve the roster. As a result, Klay and Draymond have as many championships as Lebron -- and are likely to exceed that number this summer.



Meanwhile Cavs are in shambles. Lakers are in shambles. Miami Heat are in shambles....

you noticing a trend?

You literally blamed Bron for ruining the Lakers when it's just not true.

Bron didnt sign misfits, Rob and Magic did. Bron had them playing at the 4nd seed before his injury.

Anyway, outside of this not being accurate, what does this have to do Rich Paul agency. He has produced good results and he listens to his clients.
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Re: 2019 NBA Draft Prep 

Post#2218 » by Jamaaliver » Tue Apr 2, 2019 7:49 pm

I'm blaming Klutch Sports for leading their clients to unreasonable expectations.

If they're reppin a young prospect, I fully expect similar issues to rear their heads there too.
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Post#2219 » by Nathan2331 » Tue Apr 2, 2019 8:20 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:I'm blaming Klutch Sports for leading their clients to unreasonable expectations.

If they're reppin a young prospect, I fully expect similar issues to rear their heads there too.
I wouldn't be too worried regarding rookie players. We've essentially got control for 8 years if everything works out. Not too many players are willing to take the qualifying offer to hit unrestricted free agency.
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Post#2220 » by King Ken » Tue Apr 2, 2019 8:46 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:I'm blaming Klutch Sports for leading their clients to unreasonable expectations.

If they're reppin a young prospect, I fully expect similar issues to rear their heads there too.

Where is the proof?

Bledsoe just sign a very team friendly deal. Miles Bridges is happy. Ferguson is happy. You are letting the radio hot take guys ruin your perception of a good agent

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