2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope

[ThunderBolt]

https://go-to-guys.de/2019/04/03/russell-westbrooks-offensiver-impact/

They calculated Russ' PPP while also accounting for points created by his passing. Per this metric, league average is 1.10. Russ is at 1.04 even if you add the points created by his passing. For guys who have used at least 1500 possessions that way, Russ ranks 3rd worst in the league. The only guys worse than him? Collin Sexton and Dennis Schröder.

we certainly have a type.

When we rebuild George is going to Cleveland.

[Pillendreher]

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This sounds like his career is over.

It also sounds like Donovan knows he’s back regardless of what happens. I know they picked up his option but I was hopeful.

These two idiots will probably still be here when Russ' kids will be in high school, preaching about sustainability and consistency.

[Kizz Fastfists]

https://go-to-guys.de/2019/04/03/russell-westbrooks-offensiver-impact/

They calculated Russ' PPP while also accounting for points created by his passing. Per this metric, league average is 1.10. Russ is at 1.04 even if you add the points created by his passing. For guys who have used at least 1500 possessions that way, Russ ranks 3rd worst in the league. The only guys worse than him? Collin Sexton and Dennis Schröder.

So what you are saying is the people that were claiming OKC could trade Russ and replace him with Schroder were actually right. They weren't right that Schroder is good, but Russ has just dropped off so hard with his bad knees and turning 30 that he is now Schroder. Sad fact, the OKC starters are +8 points per 100 possessions, if your replace Russ with Schroder that jumps to +23.3 per 100.

[Kizz Fastfists]

When we rebuild George is going to Cleveland.

How does that make sense? What would Cleveland give up that another team wouldn't beat their offer? Magic is desperate to make something happen and would likely give up a good chunk of their quality youth if they miss in FA. Phoenix might be getting desperate for a playoff run and offer Josh Jackson, Mikal Bridges plus picks. Cleveland isn't stupid enough to think trading a top 3 pick, Sexton, plus more for PG would actually get them anywhere, are they? PG, Love and Tristan Thompson might not get in your into the playoffs with the East improving and it definitely doesn't get you out of the first round.

[Pillendreher]

Sad fact, the OKC starters are +8 points per 100 possessions, if your replace Russ with Schroder that jumps to +23.3 per 100.

Context matters in this case. You're comparing 9 games of Schröder+starters when Westbrook has been out with the rest of the season. Schröder enjoyed the luxury of playing the following teams as the starting PG:

GSW
LAC
CLE
HOU
DAL
PHO
NYK
PHO
MIA

127.1|95.5|+21.6 per 100 in those games where Westbrook was out. In 134 minutes. With Westbrook in the rotation, that lineup has played 8 minutes together, ie not any meaningful minutes whatsoever. To put this into contest: Morris-Noel has played more minutes together than Schröder and the other starters this season.

[ThunderBolt]

When we rebuild George is going to Cleveland.

How does that make sense? What would Cleveland give up that another team wouldn't beat their offer? Magic is desperate to make something happen and would likely give up a good chunk of their quality youth if they miss in FA. Phoenix might be getting desperate for a playoff run and offer Josh Jackson, Mikal Bridges plus picks. Cleveland isn't stupid enough to think trading a top 3 pick, Sexton, plus more for PG would actually get them anywhere, are they? PG, Love and Tristan Thompson might not get in your into the playoffs with the East improving and it definitely doesn't get you out of the first round.

I was joking that presti would throw our best player for Sexton.

[acheema0]

On the Bill Simmons pod, Bill said that Chris Vernon was at the Grizzlies game in Memphis and said that the OKC medical staff worked on PG's shoulder for a couple hours before the game to just get him ready to play

[Dadouv47]

Would want to know what is really wrong with PG13's shoulder but they only will tell us after the playoffs...

[SecondTake]

Would want to know what is really wrong with PG13's shoulder but they only will tell us after the playoffs...

Significant Strain to his rotator but no tear


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[Pillendreher]

The Lakers made their 3rd most 3s of the season against us the other night with Caldwell-Pope, Wagner, Stephenson and Bullock combining for 13/26 from 3. The very next game against the Warriors, KCP, Stephenson and Wagner (Bullock didn't play) shot 2-18 from 3.

It's like our own ineptitude brings out the best in opposing teams. There must be an explanation for this.

[slick_watts]

andre roberson had 3.16 rpm wins last year in 39 games.

that's more rpm wins than schroder (1.67), felton (0.29), burton (0.24), abrines (0.56), ferguson (0.75), diallo (-0.32), and nader (-0.59) combined this season.

[acheema0]

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this is probably what scares me most about the playoffs, even if we somehow don't draw GS. In the past, we had some good lineups that we could expect success from in the playoffs. But during this stretch after the ASB they are all really just bad.

[Pillendreher]

Games with >= 60 TS%:

Melo last season: 21
Schröder this season: 19

Games with < 50 TS%:

Melo last season: 42
Schröder this season: 36

Games with >= 60 TS% and >= 25 USG%

Melo last season: 11
Schröder this season: 11

Games with < 50 TS% and >= 25 USG%:

Melo last season: 15
Schröder last season: 17


Why can't we ever have nice things? We rid of one problem and replace it with another one, only this one has two more years left on a contract that nobody wants.

[slick_watts]

we also tied up a 1st round pick for that problem.

[Pillendreher]

we also tied up a 1st round pick for that problem.

We're probably going to have to attach another one this summer to move him.

[slick_watts]

we also tied up a 1st round pick for that problem.

We're probably going to have to attach another one this summer to move him.

not if we trade him for kobe wade.

[Pillendreher]

we also tied up a 1st round pick for that problem.

We're probably going to have to attach another one this summer to move him.

not if we trade him for kobe wade.

[oreojenkins]

Bring me Tyler Herro and Daulton Hommes in the draft and let's get to work.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Bring me Tyler Herro and Daulton Hommes in the draft and let's get to work.

What are they trading to move up for Herro? No chance on Presti taking Hommes with his bad knees and lacking athleticism. Hommes is likely to withdraw himself from the draft as he isn't much of a prospect.

[bondom34]

Bring me Tyler Herro and Daulton Hommes in the draft and let's get to work.

What are they trading to move up for Herro? No chance on Presti taking Hommes with his bad knees and lacking athleticism. Hommes is likely to withdraw himself from the draft as he isn't much of a prospect.

Herro may well be there. Vecenie's last board had him at 24, and he's talking w/ NBA scouts and whatnot.