Season speculation, free agency, and trade ideas: #ValleyBoyz rise up

[lilfishi22]

Any one out there that want to be a GM and want to stay a GM, and don't have to worry about the owner trying to be all in the decisions making, all on the poor records, berating… come to Washington!!!

[DroughtsOverPHX]

Most depressing season of the post-Nash era

There was nothing worse than the 2012-2013 Suns

People forget just how bad that team was.

First year Nash was gone and that was depressing by its self. And then...check out this clown car lineup (It rivals Lebron's current supporting cast):


Shannon Brown
Diante Garrett
Marcin Gortat
Hamed Haddadi
Wesley Johnson
Kendall Marshall
Marcus Morris
Markieff Morris
Jermaine O'Neal
Luis Scola
Sebastian Telfair


P.J. Tucker, Dragic, and Jared Dudley were the only guys you could watch. It was really bad.

That's a painful memory you dug up that I had forgotten. I was probably as frustrated and less hopeful then than now, thinking things like Kendall Marshall would be a solid pass-first Nash replacement and Gortat was our center of the future. That team had nobody close to HOF potential and this team arguably has 2. (3 including Crawford lol) When you got kicked in the nads really hard last week it feels like it was worse than an even harder kick in the nads 5-10 years ago.

[cberry78]

There was nothing worse than the 2012-2013 Suns

People forget just how bad that team was.

First year Nash was gone and that was depressing by its self. And then...check out this clown car lineup (It rivals Lebron's current supporting cast):


Shannon Brown
Diante Garrett
Marcin Gortat
Hamed Haddadi
Wesley Johnson
Kendall Marshall
Marcus Morris
Markieff Morris
Jermaine O'Neal
Luis Scola
Sebastian Telfair


P.J. Tucker, Dragic, and Jared Dudley were the only guys you could watch. It was really bad.

That's a painful memory you dug up that I had forgotten. I was probably as frustrated and less hopeful then than now, thinking things like Kendall Marshall would be a solid pass-first Nash replacement and Gortat was our center of the future. That team had nobody close to HOF potential and this team arguably has 2. (3 including Crawford lol) When you got kicked in the nads really hard last week it feels like it was worse than an even harder kick in the nads 5-10 years ago.

I'm pretty sure that season didn't exist. I don't know what you guys are talking about.

[bwgood77]

People forget just how bad that team was.

First year Nash was gone and that was depressing by its self. And then...check out this clown car lineup (It rivals Lebron's current supporting cast):


Shannon Brown
Diante Garrett
Marcin Gortat
Hamed Haddadi
Wesley Johnson
Kendall Marshall
Marcus Morris
Markieff Morris
Jermaine O'Neal
Luis Scola
Sebastian Telfair


P.J. Tucker, Dragic, and Jared Dudley were the only guys you could watch. It was really bad.

That's a painful memory you dug up that I had forgotten. I was probably as frustrated and less hopeful then than now, thinking things like Kendall Marshall would be a solid pass-first Nash replacement and Gortat was our center of the future. That team had nobody close to HOF potential and this team arguably has 2. (3 including Crawford lol) When you got kicked in the nads really hard last week it feels like it was worse than an even harder kick in the nads 5-10 years ago.

I'm pretty sure that season didn't exist. I don't know what you guys are talking about.

Is Michael Beasley supposed to be there? Anyway, a season like that I was so disinterested I had less energy to be pissed off...after Nash and them not giving into a complete rebuild you knew it wouldn't be pretty. Seasons like this with higher expectation but having so many injuries, etc, were more painful to me....it's like every time we got momentum or you saw something good going, you get an injury...win 4 straight and 5 of 7, then after a tough schedule with a tough close loss to Philly, beat Denver and Sacramento and lose on buzzer beaters to the Raptors and TWolves.....playing everyone tough....TJ injures his ankle. Then we end up losing 17 straight until we finally get Tyler Johnson acclimated and win 5 of 7 again, and then he goes down....along with pretty much all of our starters or key bench players eventually. It's been painful....you get a little bit of hope and it gets crushed.

It's like that captive of Ramsay Bolton in Game of Thrones. You think you've escaped the horror and you realize you didn't and you promptly lose an important piece of your humanity.

[Kerrsed]

Any one out there that want to be a GM and want to stay a GM, and don't have to worry about the owner trying to be all in the decisions making, all on the poor records, berating… come to Washington!!!

The available GM's in the League aint got no love for Devin Booker and DeAndre Ayton? The available GM's in the League aint got no love for Devin Booker and DeAndre Ayton and the Phoenix Suns????? Y'all dont love us??? Y'all dont love us??? Well, let it be known then!



Not many will get the reference, but i was always down with Death Row, grew up with it as it started and grew, and am well versed with the 95 Source Awards.

+10K internets and 2 40oz of Old English to you good sir for using this reference!

[lilfishi22]

Any one out there that want to be a GM and want to stay a GM, and don't have to worry about the owner trying to be all in the decisions making, all on the poor records, berating… come to Washington!!!

The available GM's in the League aint got no love for Devin Booker and DeAndre Ayton? The available GM's in the League aint got no love for Devin Booker and DeAndre Ayton and the Phoenix Suns????? Y'all dont love us??? Y'all dont love us??? Well, let it be known then!



Not many will get the reference, but i was always down with Death Row, grew up with it as it started and grew, and am well versed with the 95 Source Awards.

+10K internets and 2 40oz of Old English to you good sir for using this reference!

Your 10k internets will be immortalised in my sig

[KLEON]

Most depressing season of the post-Nash era

There was nothing worse than the 2012-2013 Suns

People forget just how bad that team was.

First year Nash was gone and that was depressing by its self. And then...check out this clown car lineup (It rivals Lebron's current supporting cast):


Shannon Brown
Diante Garrett
Marcin Gortat
Hamed Haddadi
Wesley Johnson
Kendall Marshall
Marcus Morris
Markieff Morris
Jermaine O'Neal
Luis Scola
Sebastian Telfair


P.J. Tucker, Dragic, and Jared Dudley were the only guys you could watch. It was really bad.

You forgot Michael Beasley who was the most depressing player to watch

[m1chal]

You forgot Michael Beasley who was the most depressing player to watch

To me Shannon Brown holds this trophy. Ugh.

[Hesh]

Any one out there that want to be a GM and want to stay a GM, and don't have to worry about the owner trying to be all in the decisions making, all on the poor records, berating… come to Washington!!!

Dude, this one really got me


Kerssed is the lord of memes, nice to see him co-sign this

Let's hope Book doesn't follow suit and join New Orleans with his "no-limit" state of mind

[Crives]

Lavar not giving up. Wonder if PHX still preferred destination

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[BobbieL]

Lavar not giving up. Wonder if PHX still preferred destination

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Josh Jackson and the Bucks pick

If the Suns get lower than 1 still might do it for Suns 2019 FRP and Josh. The Lakers played better when he was on the court. This kind of trade would create decent cap space for a 4 like Mirotic or Aminu. Keeping Tyler, bringing back Oubre and Holmes

[Crives]

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[Crives]

Lavar not giving up. Wonder if PHX still preferred destination

Read on Twitter

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Josh Jackson and the Bucks pick

If the Suns get lower than 1 still might do it for Suns 2019 FRP and Josh. The Lakers played better when he was on the court. This kind of trade would create decent cap space for a 4 like Mirotic or Aminu. Keeping Tyler, bringing back Oubre and Holmes

I’d do Josh + Milwaukee 1st (assuming we don’t get Morant)

[BobbieL]

Lavar not giving up. Wonder if PHX still preferred destination

Read on Twitter

?s=21

Josh Jackson and the Bucks pick

If the Suns get lower than 1 still might do it for Suns 2019 FRP and Josh. The Lakers played better when he was on the court. This kind of trade would create decent cap space for a 4 like Mirotic or Aminu. Keeping Tyler, bringing back Oubre and Holmes

I’d do Josh + Milwaukee 1st (assuming we don’t get Morant)

I think ball with his experience would be better than Morant. Hence why if not getting Zion, would be worth the pick. Sure Lonzo needs to learn to shoot but running a team, defense. Might be a nice fit next to Booker.

[Crives]

Josh Jackson and the Bucks pick

If the Suns get lower than 1 still might do it for Suns 2019 FRP and Josh. The Lakers played better when he was on the court. This kind of trade would create decent cap space for a 4 like Mirotic or Aminu. Keeping Tyler, bringing back Oubre and Holmes

I’d do Josh + Milwaukee 1st (assuming we don’t get Morant)

I think ball with his experience would be better than Morant. Hence why if not getting Zion, would be worth the pick. Sure Lonzo needs to learn to shoot but running a team, defense. Might be a nice fit next to Booker.

If ball can improve on catch and shoot 3s he would be great next to Book. But if we end up. With #2/Morant, I wouldn’t want to deal with chemistry clash of Ball/Morant on the same team.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Josh Jackson and the Bucks pick

If the Suns get lower than 1 still might do it for Suns 2019 FRP and Josh. The Lakers played better when he was on the court. This kind of trade would create decent cap space for a 4 like Mirotic or Aminu. Keeping Tyler, bringing back Oubre and Holmes

I’d do Josh + Milwaukee 1st (assuming we don’t get Morant)

I think ball with his experience would be better than Morant. Hence why if not getting Zion, would be worth the pick. Sure Lonzo needs to learn to shoot but running a team, defense. Might be a nice fit next to Booker.

Lonzo's injury history scares me. The shot scares me.

I'd take Morant over Ball 1v1. I tried real hard to find a decent comparison for Morant, but it's pretty hard to find that kind of statistical production at the PG spot among college players.

I do wonder if Ball might be available, though, and I would be interested if he can get a clean bill of health... despite the fact that Ball will never be the shooter that Jackson is (lol).

[Crives]

I’d do Josh + Milwaukee 1st (assuming we don’t get Morant)

I think ball with his experience would be better than Morant. Hence why if not getting Zion, would be worth the pick. Sure Lonzo needs to learn to shoot but running a team, defense. Might be a nice fit next to Booker.

Lonzo's injury history scares me. The shot scares me.

I'd take Morant over Ball 1v1. I tried real hard to find a decent comparison for Morant, but it's pretty hard to find that kind of statistical production at the PG spot among college players.

I do wonder if Ball might be available, though, and I would be interested if he can get a clean bill of health... despite the fact that Ball will never be the shooter that Jackson is (lol).

Definitely Morant over Ball.
But after Morant/Jrue, Balls is interesting possibility. His defense could be a nice pairing with Book.

How do we think balls defense compares to Melton?

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I think ball with his experience would be better than Morant. Hence why if not getting Zion, would be worth the pick. Sure Lonzo needs to learn to shoot but running a team, defense. Might be a nice fit next to Booker.

Lonzo's injury history scares me. The shot scares me.

I'd take Morant over Ball 1v1. I tried real hard to find a decent comparison for Morant, but it's pretty hard to find that kind of statistical production at the PG spot among college players.

I do wonder if Ball might be available, though, and I would be interested if he can get a clean bill of health... despite the fact that Ball will never be the shooter that Jackson is (lol).

Definitely Morant over Ball.
But after Morant/Jrue, Balls is interesting possibility. His defense could be a nice pairing with Book.

How do we think balls defense compares to Melton?

It's better. Ball's high center of gravity makes him a little like Bridges defensively. Great quickness for his size, strong, very good frame. Get his hands up to contest every shot, gets around screens, can switch 1-3, good at disrupting passing lanes. Can't hound ball handlers like Melton or invade their space as well, but if Ball's healthy, I take his PG defense over almost anyone's.

His offense sucks though. For real. Real bad. That shot staaanks.

[Damkac]

I’d do Josh + Milwaukee 1st (assuming we don’t get Morant)

I think ball with his experience would be better than Morant. Hence why if not getting Zion, would be worth the pick. Sure Lonzo needs to learn to shoot but running a team, defense. Might be a nice fit next to Booker.

If ball can improve on catch and shoot 3s he would be great next to Book. But if we end up. With #2/Morant, I wouldn’t want to deal with chemistry clash of Ball/Morant on the same team.

I'm sure it would be fine. - Ryan McDonough

[WeekapaugGroove]

I think ball with his experience would be better than Morant. Hence why if not getting Zion, would be worth the pick. Sure Lonzo needs to learn to shoot but running a team, defense. Might be a nice fit next to Booker.

Lonzo's injury history scares me. The shot scares me.

I'd take Morant over Ball 1v1. I tried real hard to find a decent comparison for Morant, but it's pretty hard to find that kind of statistical production at the PG spot among college players.

I do wonder if Ball might be available, though, and I would be interested if he can get a clean bill of health... despite the fact that Ball will never be the shooter that Jackson is (lol).

Definitely Morant over Ball.
But after Morant/Jrue, Balls is interesting possibility. His defense could be a nice pairing with Book.

How do we think balls defense compares to Melton?

Theyre different defensive type players. Melton has better athleticism and is better on the ball guy. Ball is big with an outstanding feel for team defense, not that Melton is a bad team defender but Ball is elite.

I'm pretty torn on my thoughts with lonzo. I hated him predraft but have grown to appreciate the things he does well and like him more now. One thing I'd warn people is I don't think he'd be as good for Ayton as some people tend to believe because he's simply not a pick and roll PG and probably never will be. His faults are very real and the off court circus is still there but at the right price Im down to roll the dice on him. His BBIQ would be a breath of fresh air for this team.

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