Gonzaga prospects (Clarke, Hachimura, Tillie, Norvell)

clyde21 · Post #101 » by **clyde21** » Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:17 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:I have Clarke as the 2nd best PF in this draft but as the scouting report above mentioned, it should be with a team that employs a stretch 5. I'm trying to find a comparable for him and I can't but I think he'll be an RPM stud and deluxe role player. I suspect he'll be very low usage as well. He's currently 6th on my board.

I want him on the Wolves.

one of his best fits.

krii · Post #102 » by **krii** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:53 pm

to the guy who said Gonzaga talents are lost in NBA.

Olynyk is still in NBA, pretty good role player:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/olynyke01.html

Zach Collins is still very young but already showing his potential. Within next two years he will be a starter somewhere:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/colliza01.html

Sabonis is a legit sixth-man / MIP candidate this season and one of the most intriguing young bigs in the league
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sabondo01.html

Damn, even Jonathan Williams when called up by Lakers showed up to be able to provide some valuable minutes:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willijo04.html

It's not extremely extensive list but seriously mate, chillout. Sabonis and Collins have VERY high ceiling - same with the upcoming group. IMO Gonzaga just started producing NBA-level players, and they will do it from now on regularly.

King Ken · Post #103 » by **King Ken** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:45 pm

I have him listed as a SF long term. Comparison for me was DeMarre Carroll in terms of playing style. I think he has All NBA potential.

Hoopz Afrik · Post #104 » by **Hoopz Afrik** » Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:29 pm

Clarke is like a mashup of Montrezl Harrell and Jerami Grant to me.

This Gonzaga team might finally pull it off and win the big one. Rui, Clarke, and Norvell are all NBA players.

oldshoolballer · Post #105 » by **oldshoolballer** » Wed Apr 3, 2019 2:50 pm

LeBron_da_Don wrote:Clarke is like a mashup of Montrezl Harrell and Jerami Grant to me.

This Gonzaga team might finally pull it off and win the big one. Rui, Clarke, and Norvell are all NBA players.

Clarke reminds me of a young Dennis Rodman He jumps so quick he can be an elite rebounder looks like he can guard any position

Hoopz Afrik · Post #106 » by **Hoopz Afrik** » Wed Apr 3, 2019 5:45 pm

oldshoolballer wrote:
LeBron_da_Don wrote:Clarke is like a mashup of Montrezl Harrell and Jerami Grant to me.

This Gonzaga team might finally pull it off and win the big one. Rui, Clarke, and Norvell are all NBA players.

Clarke reminds me of a young Dennis Rodman He jumps so quick he can be an elite rebounder looks like he can guard any position

I really like that comparison

Coeur · Post #107 » by **Coeur** » Fri Apr 5, 2019 7:11 pm

The crazy thing about Gonzaga has been the consistent growth in the program. Next years recruiting class is going to be the best class they’ve ever brought in

Anton Watson 6-10 sf and prob 2 or 3 others are going to be pros. 3 5* centers. And then Brock Ravet is the next Dickau but better. Watson and Ravet both from small towns near Spokane.

It just keeps getting better. Don’t go betting on Gonzaga falling off.

3 legit 1st round picks this year. Norvell hopefully returns

doordoor123 · Post #108 » by **doordoor123** » Fri Apr 5, 2019 11:26 pm

Coeur wrote:The crazy thing about Gonzaga has been the consistent growth in the program. Next years recruiting class is going to be the best class they’ve ever brought in

Anton Watson 6-10 sf and prob 2 or 3 others are going to be pros. 3 5* centers. And then Brock Ravet is the next Dickau but better. Watson and Ravet both from small towns near Spokane.

It just keeps getting better. Don’t go betting on Gonzaga falling off.

3 legit 1st round picks this year. Norvell hopefully returns

Norvell should return. With the right amount of touches he could be a first rounder and Gonzaga values seniority. I think Gonzaga has proven to be a reliable program that develops players who want to be good. On the other hand I dislike Gonzaga as a basketball program, it’s run by prima donnas.

Coeur · Post #109 » by **Coeur** » Sat Apr 6, 2019 1:57 am

doordoor123 wrote:
Coeur wrote:The crazy thing about Gonzaga has been the consistent growth in the program. Next years recruiting class is going to be the best class they’ve ever brought in

Anton Watson 6-10 sf and prob 2 or 3 others are going to be pros. 3 5* centers. And then Brock Ravet is the next Dickau but better. Watson and Ravet both from small towns near Spokane.

It just keeps getting better. Don’t go betting on Gonzaga falling off.

3 legit 1st round picks this year. Norvell hopefully returns

Norvell should return. With the right amount of touches he could be a first rounder and Gonzaga values seniority. I think Gonzaga has proven to be a reliable program that develops players who want to be good. On the other hand I dislike Gonzaga as a basketball program, it’s run by prima donnas.

Please explain the prima Donna part. Few?

shi-woo · Post #110 » by **shi-woo** » Sun Apr 7, 2019 3:55 pm

Think Celtics need to take a long look at him if he's still on the board and Cs have the 9th pick. He'd fit like a glove and get minutes next year

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Post #111 » by **Klomp** » Tue Apr 9, 2019 7:34 pm

One of the more interesting comps I've see for Clarke is Shawn Marion. That's probably his ceiling. Someone I see in the current NBA with similar qualities is Larry Nance Jr.

Killboard · Post #112 » by **Killboard** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:18 pm

Klomp wrote:One of the more interesting comps I've see for Clarke is Shawn Marion. That's probably his ceiling. Someone I see in the current NBA with similar qualities is Larry Nance Jr.

Larry Nance Jr. is a good one, but Clarke is a little shorter. Marion ceiling could be real, but he will have to improve a lot as a shooter. As I said earlier in the wolves forum my quick is a mix among Aaron Gordon and Jordan Bell, but with better feel close to the rim than those two.

If the wolves end with him or Glarland I will be satisfied. I feel that despite the stats (which are really good for each of them) they have the intangibles to excel at the roles they are projected.

doordoor123 · Post #113 » by **doordoor123** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:34 pm

Klomp wrote:One of the more interesting comps I've see for Clarke is Shawn Marion. That's probably his ceiling. Someone I see in the current NBA with similar qualities is Larry Nance Jr.

Those are pretty good comparisons IMO. The difference being how fluid Clarke is moving around the floor. I don’t think he’ll be as good as Marion was defensively because Marion was just a super smart player and to me on-ball Clarke isn’t a great defender, but he has elite instincts, like knowing where to be on the floor, his timing blocking shots and his ability to read the offense. I also think he has a much better feel for offense is closer to Marion and his ability to rebound is better than both of those players. Other than Zion Williamson, I’ve never seen a guy able to jump to the apex of a missed shot and pull it down with defenders all around him trying to get the rebound. It’s like Dennis Rodman.

remi_222 · Post #114 » by **remi_222** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:36 pm

krii wrote:to the guy who said Gonzaga talents are lost in NBA.

Olynyk is still in NBA, pretty good role player:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/olynyke01.html

Zach Collins is still very young but already showing his potential. Within next two years he will be a starter somewhere:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/colliza01.html

Sabonis is a legit sixth-man / MIP candidate this season and one of the most intriguing young bigs in the league
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/sabondo01.html

Damn, even Jonathan Williams when called up by Lakers showed up to be able to provide some valuable minutes:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/willijo04.html

It's not extremely extensive list but seriously mate, chillout. Sabonis and Collins have VERY high ceiling - same with the upcoming group. IMO Gonzaga just started producing NBA-level players, and they will do it from now on regularly.

Ronny Turiaf had a decent carreer as well coming from Gonzaga

Post #115 » by **Klomp** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:08 pm

Killboard wrote:Larry Nance Jr. is a good one, but Clarke is a little shorter.

Not quite sure where this is coming from, as I remember it being brought up when I initially made the comparison on the Wolves board too (that person said 2 inches shorter).

Clarke is listed by Gonzaga at 6'8".
Nance was listed by Wyoming at 6'8". He measured 6'7.5" without shoes and 6'8.5" with shoes at the 2015 NBA Draft Combine, and is listed at 6'9" in the NBA.

ellobo · Post #116 » by **ellobo** » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:35 pm

Clarke reminds me of Kenyon Martin. I can see the Shawn Marion comparisons, but I'm surprised that I haven't seen him compared to K-Mart.

Post #117 » by **Klomp** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:25 am

Ruzious wrote:Not sure I've seen anyone shoot exactly the way Clarke does. He seems to jump as high as he can and shoots at the very top - after straighening his body. His max vert is so high, that his shot is virtually impossible to block no matter how slowly he releases it. If he can add some strength, he can use it to create separation - and he'll be able to get a good shot off whenever he wants. And then if he can add a 3 point shot, he's an all-star. Those are if's, but I think his upside is extremely high - higher than Collins and Sabonis - and Sabonis is absolutely killing it this season.

If you look back at his SJSU highlights, you'll see he totally overhauled his jumper form during the redshirt year at Gonzaga. First example about 40 seconds in...

Watch on YouTube

Killboard · Post #118 » by **Killboard** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:25 am

Klomp wrote:
Killboard wrote:Larry Nance Jr. is a good one, but Clarke is a little shorter.

Not quite sure where this is coming from, as I remember it being brought up when I initially made the comparison on the Wolves board too (that person said 2 inches shorter).

Clarke is listed by Gonzaga at 6'8".
Nance was listed by Wyoming at 6'8". He measured 6'7.5" without shoes and 6'8.5" with shoes at the 2015 NBA Draft Combine, and is listed at 6'9" in the NBA.

Height wise they are likely close, but Clarke wingspan is some inches shorter. Or at least is what it looks like. Some people has doubts about him playing C for that reason more than height.

Stillwater · Post #119 » by **Stillwater** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:34 am

Clarke was arguably the most impactfull non elite conference junior in the country...let that sink in some.
I like his game transferring and I think he will have a long career, but lets not get ahead of ourselves folks.

doordoor123 · Post #120 » by **doordoor123** » Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:05 pm

Stillwater wrote:Clarke was arguably the most impactfull non elite conference junior in the country...let that sink in some.
I like his game transferring and I think he will have a long career, but lets not get ahead of ourselves folks.

His conference also sucks. It’s ridiculous that Gonzaga is in such a terrible conference and they easily win their way to the tournament every year because of it.