bwgood77 wrote:ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
If we landed at 5 and the Cavs at 2, would you swap picks and JJ to move up to take Ja if that's what they wanted? Or just stay at 5?
I think we could Clarke at 5, so I'd probably pass. I guess you get the extra $5 million or so in cap savings. Would the Cavs accept TJ instead? Because that I might consider. I really like Morant. Far greater cap savings as well - gives you the ability to add a significant piece in free agency. Then again, I think we can all agree that adding a quality PG in free agency would be easier than adding a great PF.
Easiest way to add a great PF outside the draft would be to deal our pick plus other pieces for Blake Griffin. I have very little doubt that Griffin, if healthy, would launch us into the playoffs. OTOH, I don't see Clarke being off the board for us when we pick, so why not just take Clarke?
Relatedly. I've been very pro-Dragan around here lately, but I'm skeptical that he'd want to return if we drafted Brandon Clarke. Spalding looks like he might be able to contribute next season, so... maybe we're just going to have to accept a final score of 0 on the 2016 draft. Should have taken SABONIS, like I said.
bw, do you think we can get one of those PGs you like using just the MLE? Do we really need to have something more like $12 million to swing Cory Joseph or Darren Collison?
I've gotten the consistent impression that you would rather trade JJ than TJ. I really don't think that's the direction we're going based on James Jones' interviews and that rumor about Sarver wanting TJ gone last summer. So say we were to keep JJ, re-sign Kelly and draft Clarke (my base case scenario). What would you want to do with TJ, and how would that affect the rest of our offseason plans?
I don't know. There is a good chance the Pacers want to keep Collison and a good chance he will want to stay, as much success as they are having, so my guess is he is probably out unless they just don't want him. I know the Wolves really like Jones so my guess is that probably isn't enough to get him, but they are up against the tax and it may depend on whether they keep Rose and what they do in the draft.
As for TJ vs JJ. If things were equal regarding their trade value I'd easily rather keep TJ because I'm ready to win, but I do feel they may try and trade him. I don't know about the rumor with Sarver...I don't put too much stock in rumors, but who knows...I can see him having felt that thinking JJ was ready to take over....and having added Bridges/Ariza. However, he worked so hard over the summer to become an elite 3pt shooter and improved his defense so that may have changed how they look at him. However, given that Bridges has become a defensive stud who they seem high on and they seem really high on Oubre, I think they would likely be open to trading TJ or JJ for the right offer. I don't think JJ has a lot of trade value, but it may depend on what they plan on doing with his option. If they don't feel like they should pick it up, they may just deal him to clear cap space if he isn't in the long term plans.
But regardless, I think they will be open to trading TJ if they can find a deal that makes sense. I hope they don't just trade him for pennies on the dollar or something though. We are always dealing with injuries and it never hurts to have depth. We are also a poor 3pt shooting team.
But I would probably inquire on Jrue (unlikely to be traded until AD is traded to see what they can get in return) and Conley. I would probably trade TJ and Tyler for Conley, though it is a little tough to trade for 1 or 2 years of a guy, but we need to get better and it could be hard to find a PG. I'd do it for Jrue too, and would prefer that but if they get back Tatum and maybe other wings TJ might not hold much value with them, and they may rather keep Jrue to play with Tatum, Randle, and whoever else they get.
I am not sure what PFs or if there will be good enough PFs available combined with a team wanting TJ to trade for one.
I think the Suns might need to understand the market for JJ or TJ to see if worth it for the cap space To trade one of those two for the right PG.
Don’t make a trade if you don’t have a solution. And there can be so much “talk “ pre July 1, should know the PG options
