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Roddy B for 3 wrote:doordoor123 wrote:I’m confused, are there Russian trolls here? It seems like some of you are praising things that don’t make sense, like just because you like the player, not based on how they actually perform.
If your talking about me, talk to me.
Roddy B for 3 wrote:B-Ball Freak wrote:Roddy B for 3 wrote:Incredible game from Culver. So much weight on his shoulders, double and triple teamed play after play. That Tech offense did very good against an ELITE defense.
Culver took some bad shots for sure but he won't have to do that in the NBA.
I'm sure his boxscore dosen't look good, but he CARRIED that offense.
The over under for both teams was 129. That means each team was expected to score about 65. Texas Tech BLEW past that and it was Culver that had all the defense attention on him while bench players and Morette we're getting open looks due to Virginia over helping on Culver.
Culver did take some bad shots. But he made WAY more difficult shots than he took bad shots. He also had a couple misses at the rim (against player 20+lbs bigger than him AND taller), but he got his own rebound and got the put back. He had one or two strong finishes that he converted the AND-1 on.
He played good defense for a great defensive team..
That spin move that he made to take the leffty layup for the lead with about 20seconds left reminded me of how Brandon Grahm used a spin move to strip sack Brady in the Philly/Patriots superbowl.
Neither used that move until the most important situation in the game. Very clutch, and shows intelligence by not spamming it, keeps it in the tool box for important do or die situations.
I haven't checked his box scores yet, but I'm sure the numbers look like a Kobe Bryant below average game(obviously Kobe was doing it against NBA defenses while Culver was simply playing against a truly ELITE NCAA defense.)
Culver didn't look like prime Kobe agaiinst a UVA defense, but he did look like a top 5 pick being double and triple teamed against UVA defense and still carried the team to about 150% of what Vegas expected their offense to score.
He played pretty decent but cmon now he did not carry his team lol
Well he initiated the offense against an ELITE defense to 77 points and dominated the last two minutes of regulation.
#collegeKobe
Roddy B for 3 wrote:Incredible game from Culver. So much weight on his shoulders, double and triple teamed play after play. That Tech offense did very good against an ELITE defense.
Culver took some bad shots for sure but he won't have to do that in the NBA.
I'm sure his boxscore dosen't look good, but he CARRIED that offense.
The over under for both teams was 129. That means each team was expected to score about 65. Texas Tech BLEW past that and it was Culver that had all the defense attention on him while bench players and Morette we're getting open looks due to Virginia over helping on Culver.
Culver did take some bad shots. But he made WAY more difficult shots than he took bad shots. He also had a couple misses at the rim (against player 20+lbs bigger than him AND taller), but he got his own rebound and got the put back. He had one or two strong finishes that he converted the AND-1 on.
He played good defense for a great defensive team..
That spin move that he made to take the leffty layup for the lead with about 20seconds left reminded me of how Brandon Grahm used a spin move to strip sack Brady in the Philly/Patriots superbowl.
Neither used that move until the most important situation in the game. Very clutch, and shows intelligence by not spamming it, keeps it in the tool box for important do or die situations.
I haven't checked his box scores yet, but I'm sure the numbers look like a Kobe Bryant below average game(obviously Kobe was doing it against NBA defenses while Culver was simply playing against a truly ELITE NCAA defense.)
Culver didn't look like prime Kobe against a UVA defense, but he did look like a top 5 pick being double and triple teamed against UVA defense and still carried the team to about 150% of what Vegas expected their offense to score.
Duke4life831 wrote:Roddy B for 3 wrote:Incredible game from Culver. So much weight on his shoulders, double and triple teamed play after play. That Tech offense did very good against an ELITE defense.
Culver took some bad shots for sure but he won't have to do that in the NBA.
I'm sure his boxscore dosen't look good, but he CARRIED that offense.
The over under for both teams was 129. That means each team was expected to score about 65. Texas Tech BLEW past that and it was Culver that had all the defense attention on him while bench players and Morette we're getting open looks due to Virginia over helping on Culver.
Culver did take some bad shots. But he made WAY more difficult shots than he took bad shots. He also had a couple misses at the rim (against player 20+lbs bigger than him AND taller), but he got his own rebound and got the put back. He had one or two strong finishes that he converted the AND-1 on.
He played good defense for a great defensive team..
That spin move that he made to take the leffty layup for the lead with about 20seconds left reminded me of how Brandon Grahm used a spin move to strip sack Brady in the Philly/Patriots superbowl.
Neither used that move until the most important situation in the game. Very clutch, and shows intelligence by not spamming it, keeps it in the tool box for important do or die situations.
I haven't checked his box scores yet, but I'm sure the numbers look like a Kobe Bryant below average game(obviously Kobe was doing it against NBA defenses while Culver was simply playing against a truly ELITE NCAA defense.)
Culver didn't look like prime Kobe against a UVA defense, but he did look like a top 5 pick being double and triple teamed against UVA defense and still carried the team to about 150% of what Vegas expected their offense to score.
Made way more difficult shots than he took bad shots? The dude only made 5 shots the entire game. He took at least 5 bad shots at the end of the game + overtime alone.
Roddy B for 3 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:Roddy B for 3 wrote:Incredible game from Culver. So much weight on his shoulders, double and triple teamed play after play. That Tech offense did very good against an ELITE defense.
Culver took some bad shots for sure but he won't have to do that in the NBA.
I'm sure his boxscore dosen't look good, but he CARRIED that offense.
The over under for both teams was 129. That means each team was expected to score about 65. Texas Tech BLEW past that and it was Culver that had all the defense attention on him while bench players and Morette we're getting open looks due to Virginia over helping on Culver.
Culver did take some bad shots. But he made WAY more difficult shots than he took bad shots. He also had a couple misses at the rim (against player 20+lbs bigger than him AND taller), but he got his own rebound and got the put back. He had one or two strong finishes that he converted the AND-1 on.
He played good defense for a great defensive team..
That spin move that he made to take the leffty layup for the lead with about 20seconds left reminded me of how Brandon Grahm used a spin move to strip sack Brady in the Philly/Patriots superbowl.
Neither used that move until the most important situation in the game. Very clutch, and shows intelligence by not spamming it, keeps it in the tool box for important do or die situations.
I haven't checked his box scores yet, but I'm sure the numbers look like a Kobe Bryant below average game(obviously Kobe was doing it against NBA defenses while Culver was simply playing against a truly ELITE NCAA defense.)
Culver didn't look like prime Kobe against a UVA defense, but he did look like a top 5 pick being double and triple teamed against UVA defense and still carried the team to about 150% of what Vegas expected their offense to score.
Made way more difficult shots than he took bad shots? The dude only made 5 shots the entire game. He took at least 5 bad shots at the end of the game + overtime alone.
Watching the game it felt like he made 8 shots and took about 4 BAD shots.
But as an example of stats don't tell the whole story, the last two minutes of regulation two times he took the ball to the rim and missed but scored on his own put back, so now he is 5-20 instead of 5-22. Then take away the end of regulation crappy play call and he is 5-19. He took a couple desperate threes as the game was already over in OT that he missed (call those bad shots only because he missed with elite defenders in his grill but coach wanted him to take those shots, so whatever)
He took an awful shot early in the shotclock with about 20 seconds left when Tech was up, but he won't take those shots in the NBA.
I'm projecting him as a top 5 pick in a weak draft. What he had to do to win today is the stuff a primary scorer needs to do. In the NBA he will be a secondary or third scorer. If he had a better player on his team he would have been more efficient just by not HAVING to create offense.
Roddy B for 3 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:Roddy B for 3 wrote:Incredible game from Culver. So much weight on his shoulders, double and triple teamed play after play. That Tech offense did very good against an ELITE defense.
Culver took some bad shots for sure but he won't have to do that in the NBA.
I'm sure his boxscore dosen't look good, but he CARRIED that offense.
The over under for both teams was 129. That means each team was expected to score about 65. Texas Tech BLEW past that and it was Culver that had all the defense attention on him while bench players and Morette we're getting open looks due to Virginia over helping on Culver.
Culver did take some bad shots. But he made WAY more difficult shots than he took bad shots. He also had a couple misses at the rim (against player 20+lbs bigger than him AND taller), but he got his own rebound and got the put back. He had one or two strong finishes that he converted the AND-1 on.
He played good defense for a great defensive team..
That spin move that he made to take the leffty layup for the lead with about 20seconds left reminded me of how Brandon Grahm used a spin move to strip sack Brady in the Philly/Patriots superbowl.
Neither used that move until the most important situation in the game. Very clutch, and shows intelligence by not spamming it, keeps it in the tool box for important do or die situations.
I haven't checked his box scores yet, but I'm sure the numbers look like a Kobe Bryant below average game(obviously Kobe was doing it against NBA defenses while Culver was simply playing against a truly ELITE NCAA defense.)
Culver didn't look like prime Kobe against a UVA defense, but he did look like a top 5 pick being double and triple teamed against UVA defense and still carried the team to about 150% of what Vegas expected their offense to score.
Made way more difficult shots than he took bad shots? The dude only made 5 shots the entire game. He took at least 5 bad shots at the end of the game + overtime alone.
Watching the game it felt like he made 8 shots and took about 4 BAD shots.
But as an example of stats don't tell the whole story, the last two minutes of regulation two times he took the ball to the rim and missed but scored on his own put back, so now he is 5-20 instead of 5-22. Then take away the end of regulation crappy play call and he is 5-19. He took a couple desperate threes as the game was already over in OT that he missed (call those bad shots only because he missed with elite defenders in his grill but coach wanted him to take those shots, so whatever)
He took an awful shot early in the shotclock with about 20 seconds left when Tech was up, but he won't take those shots in the NBA.
I'm projecting him as a top 5 pick in a weak draft. What he had to do to win today is the stuff a primary scorer needs to do. In the NBA he will be a secondary or third scorer. If he had a better player on his team he would have been more efficient just by not HAVING to create offense.
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Roddy B for 3 wrote:Incredible game from Culver. So much weight on his shoulders, double and triple teamed play after play. That Tech offense did very good against an ELITE defense.
Culver took some bad shots for sure but he won't have to do that in the NBA.
I'm sure his boxscore dosen't look good, but he CARRIED that offense.
The over under for both teams was 129. That means each team was expected to score about 65. Texas Tech BLEW past that and it was Culver that had all the defense attention on him while bench players and Morette we're getting open looks due to Virginia over helping on Culver.
Culver did take some bad shots. But he made WAY more difficult shots than he took bad shots. He also had a couple misses at the rim (against player 20+lbs bigger than him AND taller), but he got his own rebound and got the put back. He had one or two strong finishes that he converted the AND-1 on.
He played good defense for a great defensive team..
That spin move that he made to take the leffty layup for the lead with about 20seconds left reminded me of how Brandon Grahm used a spin move to strip sack Brady in the Philly/Patriots superbowl.
Neither used that move until the most important situation in the game. Very clutch, and shows intelligence by not spamming it, keeps it in the tool box for important do or die situations.
I haven't checked his box scores yet, but I'm sure the numbers look like a Kobe Bryant below average game(obviously Kobe was doing it against NBA defenses while Culver was simply playing against a truly ELITE NCAA defense.)
Culver didn't look like prime Kobe against a UVA defense, but he did look like a top 5 pick being double and triple teamed against UVA defense and still carried the team to about 150% of what Vegas expected their offense to score.
What a bizarre take. So much of it is wrong, it’s seems like a waste to dissect it. You are either Culver himself or a relative. That’s my conclusion.
Roddy B for 3 wrote:Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Roddy B for 3 wrote:Incredible game from Culver. So much weight on his shoulders, double and triple teamed play after play. That Tech offense did very good against an ELITE defense.
Culver took some bad shots for sure but he won't have to do that in the NBA.
I'm sure his boxscore dosen't look good, but he CARRIED that offense.
The over under for both teams was 129. That means each team was expected to score about 65. Texas Tech BLEW past that and it was Culver that had all the defense attention on him while bench players and Morette we're getting open looks due to Virginia over helping on Culver.
Culver did take some bad shots. But he made WAY more difficult shots than he took bad shots. He also had a couple misses at the rim (against player 20+lbs bigger than him AND taller), but he got his own rebound and got the put back. He had one or two strong finishes that he converted the AND-1 on.
He played good defense for a great defensive team..
That spin move that he made to take the leffty layup for the lead with about 20seconds left reminded me of how Brandon Grahm used a spin move to strip sack Brady in the Philly/Patriots superbowl.
Neither used that move until the most important situation in the game. Very clutch, and shows intelligence by not spamming it, keeps it in the tool box for important do or die situations.
I haven't checked his box scores yet, but I'm sure the numbers look like a Kobe Bryant below average game(obviously Kobe was doing it against NBA defenses while Culver was simply playing against a truly ELITE NCAA defense.)
Culver didn't look like prime Kobe against a UVA defense, but he did look like a top 5 pick being double and triple teamed against UVA defense and still carried the team to about 150% of what Vegas expected their offense to score.
What a bizarre take. So much of it is wrong, it’s seems like a waste to dissect it. You are either Culver himself or a relative. That’s my conclusion.
How many NCAA players would have done better against UVA today?
15-5-9 on terrible shooting percentages against an ELITE defense. Getting double and triple teamed regularly and going head to head against one of the best wing defenders in the country.
His 15points and 5 assists account for 1/3 points scored by Texas Tech and Texas Tech scored 125% more than Vegas anticipated.
That's good. He put his team up with 20 seconds left with a spin move driving into the post and went left on the shot. He very well could have won that game and his teammates got open shots thanks to UVA over helping on Culver.
Look past the box score man. We are trying to scout the trees not the forest my man.
B-Ball Freak wrote:Roddy B for 3 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:
Made way more difficult shots than he took bad shots? The dude only made 5 shots the entire game. He took at least 5 bad shots at the end of the game + overtime alone.
Watching the game it felt like he made 8 shots and took about 4 BAD shots.
But as an example of stats don't tell the whole story, the last two minutes of regulation two times he took the ball to the rim and missed but scored on his own put back, so now he is 5-20 instead of 5-22. Then take away the end of regulation crappy play call and he is 5-19. He took a couple desperate threes as the game was already over in OT that he missed (call those bad shots only because he missed with elite defenders in his grill but coach wanted him to take those shots, so whatever)
He took an awful shot early in the shotclock with about 20 seconds left when Tech was up, but he won't take those shots in the NBA.
I'm projecting him as a top 5 pick in a weak draft. What he had to do to win today is the stuff a primary scorer needs to do. In the NBA he will be a secondary or third scorer. If he had a better player on his team he would have been more efficient just by not HAVING to create offense.
I think he'll go top 10 for sure top 5 even in this weak draft class Im not so sure, this game was not a good look for him (he did NOT have an "incredible game"). Hunter had his way with him all game long, while he was taking some really dumb shots.
mattg wrote:Yeah I don’t see it with culver. He looks the part and can dribble a bit but he forces the issue to get to the rim and his decision making of when to shoot/when to pass and understanding of a what a quality shot is are rather poor. That jumper also will need to be completely reworked.
He screams late lotto pick, not top 5 pick hopeful all star.
mattg wrote:Yeah I don’t see it with culver. He looks the part and can dribble a bit but he forces the issue to get to the rim and his decision making of when to shoot/when to pass and understanding of a what a quality shot is are rather poor. That jumper also will need to be completely reworked.
He screams late lotto pick, not top 5 pick hopeful all star.
King Ken wrote:Roddy B for 3 wrote:Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
What a bizarre take. So much of it is wrong, it’s seems like a waste to dissect it. You are either Culver himself or a relative. That’s my conclusion.
How many NCAA players would have done better against UVA today?
15-5-9 on terrible shooting percentages against an ELITE defense. Getting double and triple teamed regularly and going head to head against one of the best wing defenders in the country.
His 15points and 5 assists account for 1/3 points scored by Texas Tech and Texas Tech scored 125% more than Vegas anticipated.
That's good. He put his team up with 20 seconds left with a spin move driving into the post and went left on the shot. He very well could have won that game and his teammates got open shots thanks to UVA over helping on Culver.
Look past the box score man. We are trying to scout the trees not the forest my man.
This isn't the board to tell people they are wrong since everyone is entitled to an opinion on the draft board but man...
B-Ball Freak wrote:mattg wrote:Yeah I don’t see it with culver. He looks the part and can dribble a bit but he forces the issue to get to the rim and his decision making of when to shoot/when to pass and understanding of a what a quality shot is are rather poor. That jumper also will need to be completely reworked.
He screams late lotto pick, not top 5 pick hopeful all star.
Yeah, I don't see this "sneaky athleticism" some people are talking about too.
Roddy B for 3 wrote:B-Ball Freak wrote:Roddy B for 3 wrote:
Watching the game it felt like he made 8 shots and took about 4 BAD shots.
But as an example of stats don't tell the whole story, the last two minutes of regulation two times he took the ball to the rim and missed but scored on his own put back, so now he is 5-20 instead of 5-22. Then take away the end of regulation crappy play call and he is 5-19. He took a couple desperate threes as the game was already over in OT that he missed (call those bad shots only because he missed with elite defenders in his grill but coach wanted him to take those shots, so whatever)
He took an awful shot early in the shotclock with about 20 seconds left when Tech was up, but he won't take those shots in the NBA.
I'm projecting him as a top 5 pick in a weak draft. What he had to do to win today is the stuff a primary scorer needs to do. In the NBA he will be a secondary or third scorer. If he had a better player on his team he would have been more efficient just by not HAVING to create offense.
I think he'll go top 10 for sure top 5 even in this weak draft class Im not so sure, this game was not a good look for him (he did NOT have an "incredible game"). Hunter had his way with him all game long, while he was taking some really dumb shots.
Culver accounted for 33% of his teams points (points + assists) teammates got open threes because UVA over helped on Culver. Culver put his team up with 20 seconds left to win the NCAA title.
Hunter did not have his way with him all game long. Hunter had 5 points as an off ball player through the first half. In the second half Hunter went insane and moved up many people's draft boards(including mine) I'm sure.
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Roddy B for 3 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:
Made way more difficult shots than he took bad shots? The dude only made 5 shots the entire game. He took at least 5 bad shots at the end of the game + overtime alone.
Watching the game it felt like he made 8 shots and took about 4 BAD shots.
But as an example of stats don't tell the whole story, the last two minutes of regulation two times he took the ball to the rim and missed but scored on his own put back, so now he is 5-20 instead of 5-22. Then take away the end of regulation crappy play call and he is 5-19. He took a couple desperate threes as the game was already over in OT that he missed (call those bad shots only because he missed with elite defenders in his grill but coach wanted him to take those shots, so whatever)
He took an awful shot early in the shotclock with about 20 seconds left when Tech was up, but he won't take those shots in the NBA.
I'm projecting him as a top 5 pick in a weak draft. What he had to do to win today is the stuff a primary scorer needs to do. In the NBA he will be a secondary or third scorer. If he had a better player on his team he would have been more efficient just by not HAVING to create offense.
If you subtract all of his misses he shot 100%. Wow, what a stud!!!