Jarrett Culver

[Roddy B for 3]

I agree with you I think in a standard draft Culver is more of a 5-10 guy instead of where I have him now (clear #4).

For instance I think he will be better than Fultz/Ball/Josh Jackson from '17 who all went top 5.

But I would have him at 7-9 in the rediculously deep '18 draft.

Hindsight is 20/20 though Fultz/Ball/Josh Jackson looked ALOT better coming out of college plus all three were freshmen. I dont even think Culver would be a lottery pick in the 18 draft.

Outside of Jackson, the other two were much better talents out of college. It's not even close. Ball right now will likely be better than the best of Culver in the NBA if he's drafted to be a 2/3.

Yeah but they were still top 5 picks.

If Culver is worse than every player picked top 5 in the '18 draft and worse than Tatum and Fox from the '17 draft (none of which is written in stone) BUT he is better than Fultz, Ball and Jackson (not written in stone either)

That would make him the #8 pick from the two drafts. Which

Fox, Tatum, Ayton, Bagley, Luka, JJJ and Young all better

Culver

Ball, Jackson, Fultz all worse

#8 prospect out of the past two drafts top 5 seems mathematically very standard for a player expected to go top 5.

If the question is "is Culver worthy of being a top 5 pick" well, if you think Culver will be better than 30% of the players who have been top 5 picks from the last two drafts we should assume Culver is worthy of being top 5 pick.

I know there are other variables, but a top 5 NBA pick isnt guranteed success. If I had a #5 pick this year I'd be looking to trade down for Boston's three firsts.

I'm not saying Culver is a Carmelo Anthony or LeBron James or anything.

I'm really not.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I think Culver is the #4 prospect in a weak draft and a 5-9 guy in a standard draft.

If Zion/Morant/Barrett/Reddish(#8 or so on my board) go 1-4 and I was picking 5 I would be happy to trade down with Boston for #13,#18&#21.

The reason I'm talking about Culver so much is because he's a local kid and I know people were probably ready to rip him after this game and only look at the bad. So as soon as the game ended I posted what he did good and every time someone dumped on him I defended him because, for everything he did bad today he still lead the team to 125% of Vegas predicted score while contributing (via Points and Assists) 33% of the teams offense. He also guarded the other teams best player alot. And did what he did against a great graey defense.

I'm defended Culver from the hate because people tend to dump on high valued prospects after bad fg% games in high stakes situations. When they do that they forget about all the great the player has done and does.

It's the same phenomenon as when people talk bad about Russell Westbrook who like Culver is a .001% player in his league.

[eminence]

Here you go again making it seem like Texas Tech is just Culver + scrubs, and hes the only reason for their success. I'm half expecting you to say that you'd take Culver over Zion lol.

Played some pickup 2v2 at a park near my house last spring against one of their guys and I can't say as I came away from it real high on college players in general, lol.

[Roddy B for 3]

If I drafted him I would be designing the rest of my team assuming Culver has 3-5 years as a top 10 SG

[TheBallsDeeper]

The reason I'm talking about Culver so much is because he's a local kid and I know people were probably ready to rip him after this game and only look at the bad. So as soon as the game ended I posted what he did good and every time someone dumped on him I defended him because, for everything he did bad today he still lead the team to 125% of Vegas predicted score while contributing (via Points and Assists) 33% of the teams offense. He also guarded the other teams best player alot. And did what he did against a great graey defense.

I'm defended Culver from the hate because people tend to dump on high valued prospects after bad fg% games in high stakes situations. When they do that they forget about all the great the player has done and does.

It's the same phenomenon as when people talk bad about Russell Westbrook who like Culver is a .001% player in his league.

Why do you feel Culver needs defending on an internet message board? I doubt he or NBA scouts really care what people on here think, but you seem pretty worked up about it. Just curious.

[B-Ball Freak]

The reason I'm talking about Culver so much is because he's a local kid

There it is lol

[Roddy B for 3]

The reason I'm talking about Culver so much is because he's a local kid

There it is lol

Yeah that's why I'm defending him so much as in volume.

Why are you hating on him?

[B-Ball Freak]

The reason I'm talking about Culver so much is because he's a local kid

There it is lol

Yeah that's why I'm defending him so much as in volume.

Why are you hating on him?

Where am I hating on him, I'm hating on him just because I don't think he's gonna be anything special in the pros?, he'll be good but not anything like this player that you are projecting to be, to each their own though.

[Roddy B for 3]

The reason I'm talking about Culver so much is because he's a local kid and I know people were probably ready to rip him after this game and only look at the bad. So as soon as the game ended I posted what he did good and every time someone dumped on him I defended him because, for everything he did bad today he still lead the team to 125% of Vegas predicted score while contributing (via Points and Assists) 33% of the teams offense. He also guarded the other teams best player alot. And did what he did against a great graey defense.

I'm defended Culver from the hate because people tend to dump on high valued prospects after bad fg% games in high stakes situations. When they do that they forget about all the great the player has done and does.

It's the same phenomenon as when people talk bad about Russell Westbrook who like Culver is a .001% player in his league.

Why do you feel Culver needs defending on an internet message board? I doubt he or NBA scouts really care what people on here think, but you seem pretty worked up about it. Just curious.

I promise you, this is not me worked up. Lol.

I'm simply recording my thoughts on a particular NBA prospect. (I do pay more attention to him because he's a Lubbock kid)

I think I know alot about NBA scouting and the proof will be in the pudding as Culver's career plays out.

I also have been reading this board for 8 years. I've learned alot about the game from this website and think that there are more important things in scouting than saying stuff like "a player went 5-22 on FGMvsFGA bad game".

I feel the need to pass down the info I've learned same as those before me passed info down to me.

5-22 FGMvsFGA looks better (still bad) when you realize he needed to do that or there is no way his team would have cracked 60 points without him.

His game tonight was similar to many Westbrook games and similar to many Kobe games. He made his team better even though he missed alot of shoots.

That's not a superficial take and it's one I think many people miss often.

Does that answer the personal non basketball related question you had for me?

And frankly I don't think anyone NEEDS much more than anything beyond food, water and Oxygen.

So can I ask you why you feel the need to ask me questions that are non basketball related?

[doordoor123]

The reason I'm talking about Culver so much is because he's a local kid and I know people were probably ready to rip him after this game and only look at the bad. So as soon as the game ended I posted what he did good and every time someone dumped on him I defended him because, for everything he did bad today he still lead the team to 125% of Vegas predicted score while contributing (via Points and Assists) 33% of the teams offense. He also guarded the other teams best player alot. And did what he did against a great graey defense.

I'm defended Culver from the hate because people tend to dump on high valued prospects after bad fg% games in high stakes situations. When they do that they forget about all the great the player has done and does.

It's the same phenomenon as when people talk bad about Russell Westbrook who like Culver is a .001% player in his league.

Why do you feel Culver needs defending on an internet message board? I doubt he or NBA scouts really care what people on here think, but you seem pretty worked up about it. Just curious.

I promise you, this is not me worked up. Lol.

I'm simply recording my thoughts on a particular NBA prospect. (I do pay more attention to him because he's a Lubbock kid)

I think I know alot about NBA scouting and the proof will be in the pudding as Culver's career plays out.

I also have been reading this board for 8 years. I've learned alot about the game from this website and think that there are more important things in scouting than saying stuff like "a player went 5-22 on FGMvsFGA bad game".

I feel the need to pass down the info I've learned same as those before me passed info down to me.

5-22 FGMvsFGA looks better (still bad) when you realize he needed to do that or there is no way his team would have cracked 60 points without him.

His game tonight was similar to many Westbrook games and similar to many Kobe games. He made his team better even though he missed alot of shoots.

That's not a superficial take and it's one I think many people miss often.

Does that answer the personal non basketball related question you had for me?

And frankly I don't think anyone NEEDS much more than anything beyond food, water and Oxygen.

So can I ask you why you feel the need to ask me questions that are non basketball related?

The way youre writing is like you’ve just done a bunch of cocaine and you’re just talking nonsense.

[Roddy B for 3]

There it is lol

Yeah that's why I'm defending him so much as in volume.

Why are you hating on him?

Where am I hating on him, I'm hating on him just because I don't think he's gonna be anything special in the pros?, he'll be good but not anything like this player that you are projecting to be, to each their own though.

Hopefully you and I will revisit this topic in a civilized way years from now and we will both have a factlly answer.

[Roddy B for 3]

Why do you feel Culver needs defending on an internet message board? I doubt he or NBA scouts really care what people on here think, but you seem pretty worked up about it. Just curious.

I promise you, this is not me worked up. Lol.

I'm simply recording my thoughts on a particular NBA prospect. (I do pay more attention to him because he's a Lubbock kid)

I think I know alot about NBA scouting and the proof will be in the pudding as Culver's career plays out.

I also have been reading this board for 8 years. I've learned alot about the game from this website and think that there are more important things in scouting than saying stuff like "a player went 5-22 on FGMvsFGA bad game".

I feel the need to pass down the info I've learned same as those before me passed info down to me.

5-22 FGMvsFGA looks better (still bad) when you realize he needed to do that or there is no way his team would have cracked 60 points without him.

His game tonight was similar to many Westbrook games and similar to many Kobe games. He made his team better even though he missed alot of shoots.

That's not a superficial take and it's one I think many people miss often.

Does that answer the personal non basketball related question you had for me?

And frankly I don't think anyone NEEDS much more than anything beyond food, water and Oxygen.

So can I ask you why you feel the need to ask me questions that are non basketball related?

The way youre writing is like you’ve just done a bunch of cocaine and you’re just talking nonsense.

Yeah ok. I've never done any drug harder than weed but have lived in the same places as people who use all sorts of drugs often. So maybe that's just how we talk in my community and I write like I talk.

I hope your not feeling to high and mighty because a great high usually leads to a great fall.

If I was an English major I'd say you write "you're" like a 1st grader.

And what do you mean nonsense? What did I write that was nonsense? (serious question)?

If you want to get personal and all.

[Roddy B for 3]

Yeah that's why I'm defending him so much as in volume.

Why are you hating on him?

Where am I hating on him, I'm hating on him just because I don't think he's gonna be anything special in the pros?, he'll be good but not anything like this player that you are projecting to be, to each their own though.

Hopefully you and I will revisit this topic in a civilized way years from now and we will both have a factlly answer.

I think Culver will have 3-5 years as a top 10 SG you don't agree with that?

[BostonCouchGM]

He's not a very good NBA prospect. He's an undersized 3 who won't be able to defend anyone but the worst 3s in the game. No chance he can switch effectively on 2s or 4s. He has no offensive game and can't shoot. I'm baffled as to how anyone could think he's a lottery talent let alone top 5. I'm not saying he won't go high, because so many teams are run by inept front offices he will most likely be taken way sooner than he should. I'm saying as I see it now, he's best left to the end of the 1st round or in the 2nd. You have to have translatable size, skill and athleticism that is projectable and he doesn't. He can become a nice role player along the lines of a Kyle Anderson or Jae Crowder. If you're starting a guy like that you are a pretender. But if he's coming off the bench and he was taken late 1st or in the 2nd then you've got great value.

[kobyz]

I see him becoming a great six man type player with his all around ability, Jalen Rose mold...

[King Ken]

I see him becoming a great six man type player with his all around ability, Jalen Rose mold...

Jalen Rose is actually a good comparison. Tall lanky PG who could defend other positions with average athletic ability but crafty and skilled, not much in terms of shooting and good defenders who can get turnovers and put up numbers. Both really not all that effective at playing positions outside of PG. Long term i can see this. I had him as a less lateral quick and speed Frank Nkilikina with some of the skill like Steve Smith without the shooting Smitty had as a prospect. Jalen and him are closely related prospects. Even physically, I can Jarrett being around 215 most of his NBA career like Jalen was.

[Stillwater]

High character team first ,very unselfish asked to be a lead for TT and was B12 poy but rarely turns ball over to point of settling instead of making risky pass. Doesn't gamble enough and so rubs critics wrong way. He's never been a great shooter. He thrives by slashing getting to the cs and playing lock down Defense.
I think he will have a solid career as a starter on most current lottery teams , but he could just as easily been better off staying compared to Zlatan Ibrahimovic and pursued his Soccer career

[toussaud]

Hot garbage

He’s a black Adam Morrison who can’t shoot lol

[B-Ball Freak]

Where am I hating on him, I'm hating on him just because I don't think he's gonna be anything special in the pros?, he'll be good but not anything like this player that you are projecting to be, to each their own though.

Hopefully you and I will revisit this topic in a civilized way years from now and we will both have a factlly answer.

I think Culver will have 3-5 years as a top 10 SG you don't agree with that?

Yup only time will tell, I am rooting for the kid because it seems like he's very passionate about the game. Right now though, with how he looks coming out of college I don't think he will ever be a top 10 SG in the NBA but it seems like he has the drive and the hunger to work and get better so you never know.

[clyde21]

people are oddly hating on a player who's a consistent jumper away from being an elite prospect.

btw, last season he actually shot 38% from 3 on even more attempts per game, and he's at almost 70% at the line for his career. all signs point to him being a respectable shooter at the NBA level, which is all what he needs to be combined with the rest of his skill set offensively.

as for his performance the last two games, yea he should've played better, but was still able to contribute across the board despite not shooting well at all. don't put too much emphasis on this. last year's #1 overall pick was was shut down and bounced from the tournament in the first round, the previous #1 overall pick didn't even get close to making the tournament.

[JustCame]

I think he's good value at pick 5 and beyond in this draft. I wouldn't take him before the top 3 (Zion, Morant, Barrett), but he's as good a prospect as anybody else, and one could even argue him as better than Barrett. He has a special pace and control about his game. If he can improve his shot he has a chance to be an all-star level guy.