2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Cut Day Saturday

trwi7 · Post #1021 » by **trwi7** » Tue Apr 9, 2019 9:45 pm

M-C-G wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
dbrodz7 wrote:https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/04/09/packers-aaron-rodgers-reveals-he-played-2018-season-fractured-leg/3410617002/

And now we know why he was not as good as he usually is last season. Everyone clamoring for him to be traded in WI can GTFO with those takes now about he was purposely bad to get McCarthy fired.

Why the **** did we let him play as long as he did if he had a broken leg?

Thank God we got the win against the Jets, real season changer.

I don't feel like going back and looking through the standings week by week to see what our actual playoff chances were but they knew he had a broken leg (they did) and kept playing him after we lost to the Cardinals to drop to 4-7-1. That's just complete negligence.

Post #1022 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Apr 9, 2019 9:54 pm

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WeekapaugGroove · Post #1023 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Tue Apr 9, 2019 10:40 pm

trwi7 wrote:
dbrodz7 wrote:https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/04/09/packers-aaron-rodgers-reveals-he-played-2018-season-fractured-leg/3410617002/

And now we know why he was not as good as he usually is last season. Everyone clamoring for him to be traded in WI can GTFO with those takes now about he was purposely bad to get McCarthy fired.

Why the **** did we let him play as long as he did if he had a broken leg?

Rodgers playing those final two games was one of the most ridiculous things the Packers have done in years. And I thought that before he said his leg was broke. It was organizational negligence plain and simple.

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slappyg · Post #1024 » by **slappyg** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:52 am

dbrodz7 wrote:https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/04/09/packers-aaron-rodgers-reveals-he-played-2018-season-fractured-leg/3410617002/

And now we know why he was not as good as he usually is last season. Everyone clamoring for him to be traded in WI can GTFO with those takes now about he was purposely bad to get McCarthy fired.

I agree he was banged up but that doesn't mean he gets a pass on the bad habits he has developed. His mechanics have gone downhill because he hasn't been coached and held accountable. Throws off the back leg, side arm throws, etc. when not needed are half the reason his accuracy declined.

ClassicJack · Post #1025 » by **ClassicJack** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:05 am

Is the audio of the interview up anywhere besides twitter clips?

Matches Malone · Post #1026 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:12 am

ClassicJack wrote:Is the audio of the interview up anywhere besides twitter clips?

Full podcast is going up tomorrow according to the ESPN Wisconsin Twitter account.

LikeABosh · Post #1027 » by **LikeABosh** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:38 am

Was rewatching the Packers-Giants wildcard game from the 2016 season

McCarthy went for it on 4th down on our own 42 in the 3rd quarter when we were up 14-6. I might have been cheering for it then, but really, what the **** was that :lol:

sdn40 · Post #1028 » by **sdn40** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:41 am

slappyg wrote:
dbrodz7 wrote:https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/04/09/packers-aaron-rodgers-reveals-he-played-2018-season-fractured-leg/3410617002/

And now we know why he was not as good as he usually is last season. Everyone clamoring for him to be traded in WI can GTFO with those takes now about he was purposely bad to get McCarthy fired.

I agree he was banged up but that doesn't mean he gets a pass on the bad habits he has developed. His mechanics have gone downhill because he hasn't been coached and held accountable. Throws off the back leg, side arm throws, etc. when not needed are half the reason his accuracy declined.

Wait .... what ?? Have you ever thrown anything in your entire life ?? Hit the knee of your plant leg with a hammer and then go throw a football. Let me know how that goes for ya.

MissKhriddleton · Post #1029 » by **MissKhriddleton** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:32 pm

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Kerb Hohl · Post #1030 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:04 pm

LikeABosh wrote:Was rewatching the Packers-Giants wildcard game from the 2016 season

McCarthy went for it on 4th down on our own 42 in the 3rd quarter when we were up 14-6. I might have been cheering for it then, but really, what the **** was that

This one was kinda on the fence because of game situation but my "turn" on McCarthy was in 2014/2015/2016. My take was always, "he's fine."

That said, I want our new coach to go for it on 4th and pass on field goals. The rest of the league has done this and McCarthy would begrudgingly do it more and more as the games went by each season.

-FGs in Seattle from the 1 = bad.

However, the following few years when it was abundantly clear that we had one of the worst secondaries in NFL history, yet still had the GOAT QB...and you're punting. We should have basically not punted that year and there were so many games where we punted or kicked a long FG early in the game and it was basically over.

Mags FTW · Post #1031 » by **Mags FTW** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:17 pm

Not going for 2 in the AZ playoff game after the Janis Hail Mary says all you need to know about McCarthy.

MissKhriddleton · Post #1032 » by **MissKhriddleton** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:21 pm

Mags FTW wrote:Not going for 2 in the AZ playoff game after the Janis Hail Mary says all you need to know about McCarthy.

To be fair, how many teams in the history of the NFL playoffs have gone for 2 when an unsuccessful conversion means you lose?

Mags FTW · Post #1033 » by **Mags FTW** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:53 pm

MissKhriddleton wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:Not going for 2 in the AZ playoff game after the Janis Hail Mary says all you need to know about McCarthy.

To be fair, how many teams in the history of the NFL playoffs have gone for 2 when an unsuccessful conversion means you lose?

How many of those teams were on the road, needed 2 insane plays on the final drive just to be in that position, and had the best player in the league?

Finn · Post #1034 » by **Finn** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:02 pm

All of that's true. And none of it matters. Virtually no coach in the league is rolling those dice.

LikeABosh · Post #1035 » by **LikeABosh** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:12 pm

There would be plenty of people calling MM a moron if he did go for 2 and failed

Kerb Hohl · Post #1036 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:17 pm

LikeABosh wrote:There would be plenty of people calling MM a moron if he did go for 2 and failed

Absolutely. This is the reason that most coaches didn't do such things from 1990-2017 other than Belichick even with the data right there for them. Even if they were in favor of this, they feared getting ripped apart and maybe eventually fired for something that was the correct decision but not the football standard that Dick Stockton can correctly understand and articulate.

But things have changed now. It's mostly the norm and I'd expect LaFleur to do it.

Now that the seal was broken somewhere around the Eagles Super Bowl, everyone is doing it to some degree. McCarthy always seemed to begrudgingly get on board a season or a few weeks behind the curve as teams got riskier and riskier the past 3-4 years.

Kerb Hohl · Post #1037 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:18 pm

MissKhriddleton wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:Not going for 2 in the AZ playoff game after the Janis Hail Mary says all you need to know about McCarthy.

To be fair, how many teams in the history of the NFL playoffs have gone for 2 when an unsuccessful conversion means you lose?

It's the norm now. It should've also been then but it took some pioneers and data-driven fans/teams to finally push teams into correctly doing this stuff.

I have no idea if it has come up much in the playoffs but we saw it done in meaningful games this year, what, 4-5 times? That's a lot.

Post #1038 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:41 pm

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Mags FTW · Post #1039 » by **Mags FTW** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:48 pm

LikeABosh wrote:There would be plenty of people calling MM a moron if he did go for 2 and failed

And his defense would be that the previous year in Seattle his fate was decided by a coin and NFL overtime rules and he didn't want that to happen again.

Profound23 · Post #1040 » by **Profound23** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:35 pm

Mags FTW wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:There would be plenty of people calling MM a moron if he did go for 2 and failed

And his defense would be that the previous year in Seattle his fate was decided by a coin and NFL overtime rules and he didn't want that to happen again.

Plus how many injuries we had leading up to and in that game. His defense was even he didnt have enough wrs to run a 2 pt. conversion after Cobb was hurt in the beginning and Janis at the end.