2019 Packers Off Season Thread - Cut Day Saturday

[HaroldinGMinor]

Not going for 2 in the AZ playoff game after the Janis Hail Mary says all you need to know about McCarthy.

To be fair, how many teams in the history of the NFL playoffs have gone for 2 when an unsuccessful conversion means you lose?

At least three have done it successfully. The Titans tried it last year and failed. There may have been others between the story below and last year:

DENVER --The Denver Broncos were on such a lucky streak, why not roll the dice?

Showing ultimate confidence in his offense and maybe an equal dollop of distrust in his defense, Mike Shanahan went for the 2-point conversion with 29 seconds left and Jay Cutler hit rookie Eddie Royal over the middle to give the Denver Broncos a 39-38 win over San Diego on Sunday.

"Sometimes you have to go with your gut," Shanahan said. "I just felt like it was a chance for us to put them away. I didn't want to count on the coin flip. I wanted to do it then, and obviously it worked out."

It was the third successful 2-point attempt from a team going for the win instead of a tie in the waning seconds of a game since the 2-point conversion was added in 1994, and the first since Tampa Bay beat Washington 36-35 on Mike Allstott's run on Nov. 13, 2005.

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[slappyg]

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2019/04/09/packers-aaron-rodgers-reveals-he-played-2018-season-fractured-leg/3410617002/

And now we know why he was not as good as he usually is last season. Everyone clamoring for him to be traded in WI can GTFO with those takes now about he was purposely bad to get McCarthy fired.

I agree he was banged up but that doesn't mean he gets a pass on the bad habits he has developed. His mechanics have gone downhill because he hasn't been coached and held accountable. Throws off the back leg, side arm throws, etc. when not needed are half the reason his accuracy declined.

Wait .... what ?? Have you ever thrown anything in your entire life ?? Hit the knee of your plant leg with a hammer and then go throw a football. Let me know how that goes for ya.

LOL! Doesn't make me throw side arm and he didn't throw off his back foot every time just part of the time...so obviously he could plant.

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[sdn40]

I agree he was banged up but that doesn't mean he gets a pass on the bad habits he has developed. His mechanics have gone downhill because he hasn't been coached and held accountable. Throws off the back leg, side arm throws, etc. when not needed are half the reason his accuracy declined.

Wait .... what ?? Have you ever thrown anything in your entire life ?? Hit the knee of your plant leg with a hammer and then go throw a football. Let me know how that goes for ya.

LOL! Doesn't make me throw side arm and he didn't throw off his back foot every time just part of the time...so obviously he could plant.

No. No he couldn't.

[slappyg]

Wait .... what ?? Have you ever thrown anything in your entire life ?? Hit the knee of your plant leg with a hammer and then go throw a football. Let me know how that goes for ya.

LOL! Doesn't make me throw side arm and he didn't throw off his back foot every time just part of the time...so obviously he could plant.

No. No he couldn't.

I would be extremely happy if you are right and that none of this has to do with bad habits and lack of coaching/accountability and he returns to prime form

[MissKhriddleton]

Not going for 2 in the AZ playoff game after the Janis Hail Mary says all you need to know about McCarthy.

To be fair, how many teams in the history of the NFL playoffs have gone for 2 when an unsuccessful conversion means you lose?

At least three have done it successfully. The Titans tried it last year and failed. There may have been others between the story below and last year:

DENVER --The Denver Broncos were on such a lucky streak, why not roll the dice?

Showing ultimate confidence in his offense and maybe an equal dollop of distrust in his defense, Mike Shanahan went for the 2-point conversion with 29 seconds left and Jay Cutler hit rookie Eddie Royal over the middle to give the Denver Broncos a 39-38 win over San Diego on Sunday.

"Sometimes you have to go with your gut," Shanahan said. "I just felt like it was a chance for us to put them away. I didn't want to count on the coin flip. I wanted to do it then, and obviously it worked out."

It was the third successful 2-point attempt from a team going for the win instead of a tie in the waning seconds of a game since the 2-point conversion was added in 1994, and the first since Tampa Bay beat Washington 36-35 on Mike Allstott's run on Nov. 13, 2005.

In the playoffs though?

I don't disagree that it may have been the right call, but holding something against MM that no one in the history of the game has had the balls to do is silly imo.

[HaroldinGMinor]

Oops, I didn't see your playoffs qualifier. I doubt it's happened in that scenario.

[ibanezjp]

I remember McCarthy saying they didn’t have enough WR’s to run a 2 point play. He had said Janis got hurt in the catch so he was done to James Jones if I remember correctly.

[LikeABosh]

There would be plenty of people calling MM a moron if he did go for 2 and failed

And his defense would be that the previous year in Seattle his fate was decided by a coin and NFL overtime rules and he didn't want that to happen again.

There were merits to both decisions. Of the things that bothered me about MM, this would be at the bottom of the list

[humanrefutation]

I remember McCarthy saying they didn’t have enough WR’s to run a 2 point play. He had said Janis got hurt in the catch so he was done to James Jones if I remember correctly.

I've heard that excuse but what did he expect to happen if Rodgers got the ball in OT?

That was our best chance to win, IMO. One shot from the two where you don't need guys who can stretch the field.

[worthlessBucks]

Highly entertaining B/R piece. Would read again. Came off like real life fan fiction from a jaded fan, but with real quotes surrounding the narrative. Beautiful.

[trwi7]

I remember McCarthy saying they didn’t have enough WR’s to run a 2 point play. He had said Janis got hurt in the catch so he was done to James Jones if I remember correctly.

I've heard that excuse but what did he expect to happen if Rodgers got the ball in OT?

That was our best chance to win, IMO. One shot from the two where you don't need guys who can stretch the field.

Yeah, saying you don't have enough WRs doesn't fly because you're still not going to have enough if you get the ball in OT. What's he going to do if they win the toss? Defer because we don't have enough receivers? And we wouldn't have even had to worry about the defense or special teams blowing it since there was no time on the clock.

If you're supposedly an offensive savant with a HOF QB and one play from 2 yards out wins you the game with a severely depleted roster, don't you think you would take that option?

[th87]

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Does this dude have CTE?

What do he suppose to say?

[sdn40]

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Does this dude have CTE?

What do he suppose to say?

Don't acks me

[WeekapaugGroove]

I remember McCarthy saying they didn’t have enough WR’s to run a 2 point play. He had said Janis got hurt in the catch so he was done to James Jones if I remember correctly.

I've heard that excuse but what did he expect to happen if Rodgers got the ball in OT?

That was our best chance to win, IMO. One shot from the two where you don't need guys who can stretch the field.

Once they got down to 2 healthy WRs they should have started planning for what would happen if 1 more went down. Get a RB or CB ready to be that emergency guy.

But if they didn't do that then I can see how you would be in a pickle since you only have like 45 seconds from the time that TD was scored to run the 2pt play. So if you're not prepared for that worse case scenario then you probably have to kick and regroup.

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[th87]

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Does this dude have CTE?

What do he suppose to say?

Don't acks me

Maybe too obscure of a reference:

http://archive.jsonline.com/packerinsider/64173172.html

Green Bay — I love Twitter (when I don't hate it). And I understand why it's making some people in the Green Bay organization cringe.

Get a load of what ever-youthful, ever-confident Packer tight end Jermichael Finley posted on his account on Oct. 11:

"…bye week. Next is lion should trash them."

Translation: This week should be an easy victory for the Packers.

Assuming Green Bay is going to roll over Detroit is a no-no in the art of public relations. Finley obviously got some feedback from within the organization about his posting, so he put out another sarcastic tweet comment:

"Sorry tweets the lions game is going to b so close and it's going to b a great game. Lol"

And more:

"Sorry for the tweets took the lions message wrong. What do I suppose to say oh the lions are the best team in the league."

[Oscar71]

I'm just hoping Rich McGeorge and Carroll Dale can add something to this nonsense. Not sure why anything said by other old-timers means anything today....

[MickeyDavis]

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[MikeIsGood]

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Why does he look like his body was preserved in ash from Pompeii.