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College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!!

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Who do you take at 5???

Garland
27
33%
Reddish
22
27%
Clarke
3
4%
Hunter
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16%
Hayes
0
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Coby
1
1%
Rui
3
4%
Romeo
2
2%
Bol
5
6%
Other
6
7%
 
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Post#321 » by Juco24 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:27 pm

Reign23 wrote:the r.j. hate in here reminds me of trae young last season


Yeah... but as for the Knicks - he'd be my choice after Zion. Not that I don't think Ja is more deserving but RJ is a better fit as opposed to Ja -- because we already have DSJ & Frank as two potential PGs. Ja would just cause even more of a logjam, barring a trade.

Plus I think RJ could become similar to PG. He definitely has the NBA body.
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Post#322 » by god shammgod » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:33 pm

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Juco24 wrote:Bleacher report's latest mock has Garland all the way up to #4! And interestingly enough - Reddish slips to #6


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but but no mocks have him top 5. best pg in the draft don’t @ me


i got him at 3 and part of me thinks maybe he should be 2
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Post#323 » by Tron Carter » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:41 pm

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Juco24 wrote:Bleacher report's latest mock has Garland all the way up to #4! And interestingly enough - Reddish slips to #6


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but but no mocks have him top 5. best pg in the draft don’t @ me


i got him at 3 and part of my thinks maybe he should be 2


i’m starting to open my mind up to Barrett despite his flaws. I was firmly culver > barrett but idk about his upside anymore. shot still needs a lot of work still. but yeah zion (obviously), barrett, garland I’d be fine with top 3. culver prolly 4 rn for me.
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Post#324 » by Juco24 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:46 pm

Tron Carter wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Tron Carter wrote:
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but but no mocks have him top 5. best pg in the draft don’t @ me


i got him at 3 and part of my thinks maybe he should be 2


i’m starting to open my mind up to Barrett despite his flaws. I was firmly culver > barrett but idk about his upside anymore. shot still needs a lot of work still. but yeah zion (obviously), barrett, garland I’d be fine with top 3. culver prolly 4 rn for me.


I'm honestly not high on Culver... I think he's solid, YES! But I don't see him as a 'can't miss' prospect.
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Post#325 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:46 pm

Reign23 wrote:the r.j. hate in here reminds me of trae young last season

Can’t lie I’m guilty af. I hated hard on Trae young last year and I been hating hard on RJ as well. Ima try to be more open with RJ.

Gut feeling is that if the Knicks aren’t getting Zion, RJ will be a Knick
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Post#326 » by 2010 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:51 pm

If we don't win the 1st overall pick I would not be surprised at all if we end up trading the pick. Especially if the front office knows KD/Kyrie are coming.
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Post#327 » by god shammgod » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:52 pm

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god shammgod wrote:
Tron Carter wrote:
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but but no mocks have him top 5. best pg in the draft don’t @ me


i got him at 3 and part of my thinks maybe he should be 2


i’m starting to open my mind up to Barrett despite his flaws. I was firmly culver > barrett but idk about his upside anymore. shot still needs a lot of work still. but yeah zion (obviously), barrett, garland I’d be fine with top 3. culver prolly 4 rn for me.


hating barrett has become kind of a meme.
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Post#328 » by awy » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:53 pm

he's just not that good. will probably be overpaid and not a positive player for his career.
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Post#329 » by Tron Carter » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:53 pm

if barrett can be derozan with more range and better vision that’s a good player. not a superstar but a valuable player.
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Post#330 » by King of Canada » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:56 pm

2010 wrote:If we don't win the 1st overall pick I would not be surprised at all if we end up trading the pick. Especially if the front office knows KD/Kyrie are coming.


I've been saying that all along, and if we do Lance, Smith, Trier, Knox, and Frank will be going too (or a mix of them).
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Post#331 » by mpharris36 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:59 pm

2010 wrote:If we don't win the 1st overall pick I would not be surprised at all if we end up trading the pick. Especially if the front office knows KD/Kyrie are coming.


i could potentially see it...I wonder what impact players are available at that 10-20 million dollar range of a player. for example like a DSJ + Frank (or just one of them) + top 2-5 pick trade what could that get us for example and whats out there?

For example some potential trade targets with the pick + other assets could be

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a tradable player that I see we could move a young piece or two for that doesn't require the top 5 pick would be a player like Josh Richardson.
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Post#332 » by 2010 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:19 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
2010 wrote:If we don't win the 1st overall pick I would not be surprised at all if we end up trading the pick. Especially if the front office knows KD/Kyrie are coming.


i could potentially see it...I wonder what impact players are available at that 10-20 million dollar range of a player. for example like a DSJ + Frank (or just one of them) + top 2-5 pick trade what could that get us for example and whats out there?

For example some potential trade targets with the pick + other assets could be

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Lillard

a tradable player that I see we could move a young piece or two for that doesn't require the top 5 pick would be a player like Josh Richardson.


• Aaron Gordon

That is one guy I would keep an eye on. Especially considering Perry's Orlando front office history.
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Post#333 » by mpharris36 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:29 pm

2010 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
2010 wrote:If we don't win the 1st overall pick I would not be surprised at all if we end up trading the pick. Especially if the front office knows KD/Kyrie are coming.


i could potentially see it...I wonder what impact players are available at that 10-20 million dollar range of a player. for example like a DSJ + Frank (or just one of them) + top 2-5 pick trade what could that get us for example and whats out there?

For example some potential trade targets with the pick + other assets could be

AD
Beal
Lillard

a tradable player that I see we could move a young piece or two for that doesn't require the top 5 pick would be a player like Josh Richardson.


• Aaron Gordon

That is one guy I would keep an eye on. Especially considering Perry's Orlando front office history.


he's for sure not a top 5 pick worthy player. That would be like a DSJ + Knox trade max I would do. No way can Gordan pull a top 5 pick even if this draft is weak. I put him in the same category as Josh Richardson.
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Post#334 » by 2010 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:54 pm

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2010 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
i could potentially see it...I wonder what impact players are available at that 10-20 million dollar range of a player. for example like a DSJ + Frank (or just one of them) + top 2-5 pick trade what could that get us for example and whats out there?

For example some potential trade targets with the pick + other assets could be

AD
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Lillard

a tradable player that I see we could move a young piece or two for that doesn't require the top 5 pick would be a player like Josh Richardson.


• Aaron Gordon

That is one guy I would keep an eye on. Especially considering Perry's Orlando front office history.


he's for sure not a top 5 pick worthy player. That would be like a DSJ + Knox trade max I would do. No way can Gordan pull a top 5 pick even if this draft is weak. I put him in the same category as Josh Richardson.


How so? He was drafted 4th overall in the 2014 draft. He's still only 23, has some upside, yet can step in and contribute now. This is an athletic guy who has developed a 3pt shot and can stretch the floor at PF. Put him next to Mitch and KD and you may have something.
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Post#335 » by god shammgod » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:05 pm

beal makes a lot more sense than aaron to me if you were to trade the pick. with kd & kyrie dominating the ball you want that 3rd guy to stay on the perimeter mostly. whoever you get as the 3rd piece becomes mostly 3 & d. that's what happened to bosh, to kevin love, and that's what klay is. it's why i'm not big on an ad trade either. the 3rd guy always becomes a bit of a role player. so why give up all your depth for him if you're not gonna be able to use him at 100 percent of what he is ?
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Post#336 » by JBreezeNY » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:32 pm

god shammgod wrote:beal makes a lot more sense than aaron to me if you were to trade the pick. with kd & kyrie dominating the ball you want that 3rd guy to stay on the perimeter mostly. whoever you get as the 3rd piece becomes mostly 3 & d. that's what happened to bosh, to kevin love, and that's what klay is. it's why i'm not big on an ad trade either. the 3rd guy always becomes a bit of a role player. so why give up all your depth for him if you're not gonna be able to use him at 100 percent of what he is ?

More I think about it, if we do land Zion it would make perfect sense to keep him.

He’s great with off-ball movement, always moving, always cutting, high motor, makes smart passes.

Making more and more sense not to trade for AD.
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Post#337 » by mpharris36 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:42 pm

2010 wrote:
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• Aaron Gordon

That is one guy I would keep an eye on. Especially considering Perry's Orlando front office history.


he's for sure not a top 5 pick worthy player. That would be like a DSJ + Knox trade max I would do. No way can Gordan pull a top 5 pick even if this draft is weak. I put him in the same category as Josh Richardson.


How so? He was drafted 4th overall in the 2014 draft. He's still only 23, has some upside, yet can step in and contribute now. This is an athletic guy who has developed a 3pt shot and can stretch the floor at PF. Put him next to Mitch and KD and you may have something.


your telling me you trade Frank + Knox/DSJ (one of them) + our top 5 pick for Aaron Gordon?
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Post#338 » by Tron Carter » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:46 pm

Gordon is another theoretical shooter with a below avg career ts% (especially for a big). no thank you.
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Post#339 » by mpharris36 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:47 pm

god shammgod wrote:beal makes a lot more sense than aaron to me if you were to trade the pick. with kd & kyrie dominating the ball you want that 3rd guy to stay on the perimeter mostly. whoever you get as the 3rd piece becomes mostly 3 & d. that's what happened to bosh, to kevin love, and that's what klay is. it's why i'm not big on an ad trade either. the 3rd guy always becomes a bit of a role player. so why give up all your depth for him if you're not gonna be able to use him at 100 percent of what he is ?


agreed I think the only guys I would trade the pick (outside of Zion). Would be for AD, Lillard, and Beal like I said above (at least value wise) I still wouldn't do it because of what I would have to give up draft pick wise + the young guys to watch salaries.

Gordon isn't in that class because you would have to tie two young players + the pick just to match salaries thats the key.
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Post#340 » by god shammgod » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:55 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:beal makes a lot more sense than aaron to me if you were to trade the pick. with kd & kyrie dominating the ball you want that 3rd guy to stay on the perimeter mostly. whoever you get as the 3rd piece becomes mostly 3 & d. that's what happened to bosh, to kevin love, and that's what klay is. it's why i'm not big on an ad trade either. the 3rd guy always becomes a bit of a role player. so why give up all your depth for him if you're not gonna be able to use him at 100 percent of what he is ?


agreed I think the only guys I would trade the pick (outside of Zion). Would be for AD, Lillard, and Beal like I said above (at least value wise) I still wouldn't do it because of what I would have to give up draft pick wise + the young guys to watch salaries.

Gordon isn't in that class because you would have to tie two young players + the pick just to match salaries thats the key.


yeah, the knicks aren't in a great position to make trades right now because they don't have any salary to use outside of the kids.

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