2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope

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Re: 2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope 

Post#3441 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:19 pm

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hardenASG13 wrote:Soooo......that is why I say they are about a coin flip vs. anyone in the West not golden State, who will be on the other side of the bracket. That was basically a playoff game, against houston. It had a 3 point spread, and okc won! Thinking otherwise, as a thunder fan, makes 0 sense and just makes you a pessimistic whiner that is afraid to get your hopes up out of fear of being let down.....which is sad when it's regarding rooting for a group of strangers who play basketball.


thunder are right where most of the 'pessimists' said they would be at the end of the year. they will be dogs in their first round matchup no matter who it's against. i don't know what you're patting yourself on the back about. if you honestly believe okc is a coin flip vs. anyone in the west aside from golden state you should really put your money where your mouth is because you'd stand to get rich.


While I agree with almost everything u just said, I don't think we would be underdogs against a Blazers team missing Nurkic. Their best strength against us was the Nurkic/Adams match up. For the rest yes, we would be huge underdogs against Houston/Denver and probably getting swept by the Warriors.
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Post#3442 » by Dn4sty » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:23 pm

slick_watts wrote:
Dn4sty wrote:
Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Saying that Russ' game is less efficient and of lower quality than it could be due to bad coaching doesn't change the fact that he, and the Thunder, do not play a good brand of basketball. They play a very inefficient style that is built around one person trying to do everything while the rest do a lot of watching.


What is OKC record in games where Russ gets a triple double? :)


there is plenty of nuance to this question that anyone with a brain is aware of but lots of people choose not to be aware of. which is unfortunate because it's a very interesting topic of discussion.


Cool response. I was simply giving a light hearted reply to Kizz based on the pass that led to the triple double which was also the game winning shot.

But by all means continue to do what you do.
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Post#3443 » by Dn4sty » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:25 pm

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hardenASG13 wrote:Soooo......that is why I say they are about a coin flip vs. anyone in the West not golden State, who will be on the other side of the bracket. That was basically a playoff game, against houston. It had a 3 point spread, and okc won! Thinking otherwise, as a thunder fan, makes 0 sense and just makes you a pessimistic whiner that is afraid to get your hopes up out of fear of being let down.....which is sad when it's regarding rooting for a group of strangers who play basketball.


thunder are right where most of the 'pessimists' said they would be at the end of the year. they will be dogs in their first round matchup no matter who it's against. i don't know what you're patting yourself on the back about. if you honestly believe okc is a coin flip vs. anyone in the west aside from golden state you should really put your money where your mouth is because you'd stand to get rich.


If OKC ends up 6 and Portland ends up 3, everyone will favor OKC.
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Post#3444 » by Dn4sty » Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:27 pm

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hardenASG13 wrote:Soooo......that is why I say they are about a coin flip vs. anyone in the West not golden State, who will be on the other side of the bracket. That was basically a playoff game, against houston. It had a 3 point spread, and okc won! Thinking otherwise, as a thunder fan, makes 0 sense and just makes you a pessimistic whiner that is afraid to get your hopes up out of fear of being let down.....which is sad when it's regarding rooting for a group of strangers who play basketball.


thunder are right where most of the 'pessimists' said they would be at the end of the year. they will be dogs in their first round matchup no matter who it's against. i don't know what you're patting yourself on the back about. if you honestly believe okc is a coin flip vs. anyone in the west aside from golden state you should really put your money where your mouth is because you'd stand to get rich.


While I agree with almost everything u just said, I don't think we would be underdogs against a Blazers team missing Nurkic. Their best strength against us was the Nurkic/Adams match up. For the rest yes, we would be huge underdogs against Houston/Denver and probably getting swept by the Warriors.


I think that a playoff series would look like this against each team

Warriors over OKC in 5
Nuggets over OKC in 6
Rockets over OKC in 7 (but honestly this a coin flip)
OKC over Portland in 6
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Post#3445 » by hardenASG13 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:20 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
thunder are right where most of the 'pessimists' said they would be at the end of the year. they will be dogs in their first round matchup no matter who it's against. i don't know what you're patting yourself on the back about. if you honestly believe okc is a coin flip vs. anyone in the west aside from golden state you should really put your money where your mouth is because you'd stand to get rich.


While I agree with almost everything u just said, I don't think we would be underdogs against a Blazers team missing Nurkic. Their best strength against us was the Nurkic/Adams match up. For the rest yes, we would be huge underdogs against Houston/Denver and probably getting swept by the Warriors.


I think that a playoff series would look like this against each team

Warriors over OKC in 5
Nuggets over OKC in 6
Rockets over OKC in 7 (but honestly this a coin flip)
OKC over Portland in 6


They won't be dogs against Portland, and would only be slight dogs in a series price against den or houston. Looks like houston and golden State could very well end up in the other half of the bracket, in which case I think OKC makes the wcf. I'll put my money where my mouth is, always put some on them in the playoffs. I'll do this too slick.....if they play Portland, I'll bet you they win the series. Okc loses I'll never post on here again. Portland loses you never post on here again. You down for that?
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Re: 2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope 

Post#3446 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:32 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
thunder are right where most of the 'pessimists' said they would be at the end of the year. they will be dogs in their first round matchup no matter who it's against. i don't know what you're patting yourself on the back about. if you honestly believe okc is a coin flip vs. anyone in the west aside from golden state you should really put your money where your mouth is because you'd stand to get rich.


While I agree with almost everything u just said, I don't think we would be underdogs against a Blazers team missing Nurkic. Their best strength against us was the Nurkic/Adams match up. For the rest yes, we would be huge underdogs against Houston/Denver and probably getting swept by the Warriors.


I think that a playoff series would look like this against each team

Warriors over OKC in 5
Nuggets over OKC in 6
Rockets over OKC in 7 (but honestly this a coin flip)
OKC over Portland in 6


I have the Rockets in 5 and no clue about what could happen in a series against the Nuggets (I feel more confident than the Warriors). But that's just my humble opinion :)

Anyway we need to win tonight in order to avoid the Warriors. That's our only shot to get past the first round.
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Post#3447 » by RunOKC » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:44 pm

Lillard/CJ out tonight. Most likely we draw Houston if we win... Lose and it depends on the Clippers and Spurs if we'll draw GS or Den.
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Post#3448 » by thekaoswithin » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:55 pm

If Giannis rests we win, I'm ok with POR or HOU.
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Post#3449 » by SecondTake » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:07 pm

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SecondTake wrote:Going up against HOU in the first round would be fine as well. We clearly have HOU's number and it would be over in 6 or 7. At this point it seems pretty certain that we make the 2nd round with a high chance of making the WCF


Hell no. They are way better than us and have more depth. PG13 can't defend as well as he used too and his scoring his bad lately.

We had a great comeback win yesterday and I enjoyed every part of it but we were very lucky in the end.


We just match up too well against them. We've been beating the lights off them all year. WB is a bad match up for Paul and they got nobody that can check Felton.
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Post#3450 » by SecondTake » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:09 pm

RunOKC wrote:Lillard/CJ out tonight. Most likely we draw Houston if we win... Lose and it depends on the Clippers and Spurs if we'll draw GS or Den.


Lol, they're ducking us so hard. I hope they make the second round just so we can slap some respect in to them.
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Post#3451 » by Pillendreher » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:55 pm

What a game.

"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#3452 » by SecondTake » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:56 pm

Pillendreher wrote:What a game.



I told you we're going far.
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Post#3453 » by Pillendreher » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:25 pm

Two things regarding the game:

1) Watching Houston actually use Capela made me sad. We're just wasting Adams in that regard.

2) Watching Harden play is so horrible from an entertainment standpoint. What he does on the court is disgusting. Thiss is not how basketball is supposed to be played. He's basically playing the percentages every single **** possession. He makes incredibly tough shots and just wagers that he can make enough to stay efficient. Kinda like Houston as a team: When they make their garbage shots, they're very hard to beat.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#3454 » by Pillendreher » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:36 pm

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Maybe playing a guy with the worst On/Off in Thunder history among guys with at least 400 mp in a single season is not something we should be doing with regularity.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#3455 » by SecondTake » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:03 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Image

Maybe playing a guy with the worst On/Off in Thunder history among guys with at least 400 mp in a single season is not something we should be doing with regularity.


Do you have any on-off numbers of Schroder vs Ferguson since the all star break? Seems like Schroder is taking more and more minutes from Ferguson over the course of the season. Ferg had a rough stretch (but so did Schroder) so I'm not sure how that's working out, especially defensively.
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Post#3456 » by Pillendreher » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:25 pm

SecondTake wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:Image

Maybe playing a guy with the worst On/Off in Thunder history among guys with at least 400 mp in a single season is not something we should be doing with regularity.


Do you have any on-off numbers of Schroder vs Ferguson since the all star break? Seems like Schroder is taking more and more minutes from Ferguson over the course of the season. Ferg had a rough stretch (but so did Schroder) so I'm not sure how that's working out, especially defensively.


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The starters have been garbage defensively, no way around it.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#3457 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:37 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Two things regarding the game:

1) Watching Houston actually use Capela made me sad. We're just wasting Adams in that regard.

2) Watching Harden play is so horrible from an entertainment standpoint. What he does on the court is disgusting. Thiss is not how basketball is supposed to be played. He's basically playing the percentages every single **** possession. He makes incredibly tough shots and just wagers that he can make enough to stay efficient. Kinda like Houston as a team: When they make their garbage shots, they're very hard to beat.


Tell Presti to get some shooters :banghead: :banghead:
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Post#3458 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:38 pm

A bit scared about tonight's game if PG13 doesn't play. We can't score 100 points without him even against the worst defenses in the league.
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Post#3459 » by JustOneFix » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:42 pm

Man, i would give my left nut if we could beat Mil tonight, Denver wins vs Minny and Portland beats Sacramento. That's basically a free pass to the second round and avoiding GS till the conference finals.

Of course, some of those 3 things will not happen and we'll end up with Denver or Houston in the first round.
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Post#3460 » by Dadouv47 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:56 pm

JustOneFix wrote:Man, i would give my left nut if we could beat Mil tonight, Denver wins vs Minny and Portland beats Sacramento. That's basically a free pass to the second round and avoiding GS till the conference finals.

Of course, some of those 3 things will not happen and we'll end up with Denver or Houston in the first round.


Dream scenario indeed.

In order I prefer :

1. Both OKC and Portland win so we face them in the first round
2. We win and Denver lose so we play Denver and not Houston (or we lose and one of Spurs/Denver get an L, not going to happen)
3. We win, Portland lose (most probable scenario in my opinion) and face Houston

Then the worst scenario of losing tonight's game and playing Gs in the first round... :(

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