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Re: Season speculation, free agency, and trade ideas: #ValleyBoyz rise up 

Post#1341 » by sasquatchBob » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:35 am

How many of you would be ok with letting Tyler Johnson start at the PG for the next season? Personally, I would like it. Team played better with him on the court. Even though the sample size is small, but him and Oubre gave the team a different feel ("the wave"), so why just not ride it out for the next season? It's not like we're in a real rush anyway. This way we could also keep Warren on the roster. In my opinion our only critical need is PF.
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Post#1342 » by Frank Lee » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:44 am

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joegotti19 wrote:What about a warren for dinwiddie swap in the summer? Dinwiddie can’t be traded until June I believe because of his extension but it could make some sense for both teams and the numbers are close.


I have a hard time believing they would trade Dinwiddie after just agreeing to an extension. Wouldn't be a cool move right after a player signed to stay there. Plus I think they really like him.

I think if Boston trades for AD and has to give like Tatum and Hayward or Brown or something AND Kyrie stays they might do a TJ for Rozier S&T. I'm not a Rozier fan though.


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Post#1343 » by LukasBMW » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:52 am

This is the first season in a long time that I enjoyed watching. We were not nearly as bad as our record indicates. I'm not a fan of Igor, but our team did not quit on him. He has our young guys playing hard. I actually hope we bring him back. He deserves another season.

Trading TJ just to trade TJ would be dumb. If we can use him to upgrade the PF or PG position, then maybe we do it. But I would not offload him for peanuts. He can play and I think we have room for him even with all our wings.

We've got a lot of upcoming talent and bright spots. I hope Sarver doesn't F this up. :lol:

I guess is starts with the draft lottery. Zion would be nice. Morant is OK. RJ @ 3 is tempting. But if we get 4/5/6/7, then we may as well trade out.
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Post#1344 » by bwgood77 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:02 am

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joegotti19 wrote:What about a warren for dinwiddie swap in the summer? Dinwiddie can’t be traded until June I believe because of his extension but it could make some sense for both teams and the numbers are close.


I have a hard time believing they would trade Dinwiddie after just agreeing to an extension. Wouldn't be a cool move right after a player signed to stay there. Plus I think they really like him.

I think if Boston trades for AD and has to give like Tatum and Hayward or Brown or something AND Kyrie stays they might do a TJ for Rozier S&T. I'm not a Rozier fan though.


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Post#1345 » by bwgood77 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:04 am

sasquatchBob wrote:How many of you would be ok with letting Tyler Johnson start at the PG for the next season? Personally, I would like it. Team played better with him on the court. Even though the sample size is small, but him and Oubre gave the team a different feel ("the wave"), so why just not ride it out for the next season? It's not like we're in a real rush anyway. This way we could also keep Warren on the roster. In my opinion our only critical need is PF.


Ultimately I'd be fine with it. I'd rather get a clear upgrade, but I wouldn't want to trade for someone who wasn't a clear upgrade and arguably not any better than Tyler. As you said, we played very well with him in there.
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Post#1346 » by bwgood77 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:12 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:If they fire Igor and replace him with Kidd I'm going to take a break from this team for a bit. For **** sake the fact the bucks jumped like 20 wins after getting rid of Kidd should be enough to make him unhireable.

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As you've mentioned, I think they could fire Igor if/when Pelinka fires Walton if they know Walton will take the job. For all we know, they may already know if he would, though he may still have some years of pay with the Lakers that he would have to forego (or have reduced by Suns salary).

I would say that it would be odd to have an exit interview with Igor, not fire him, and then fire him later once news came out about Walton, but nothing about timings of firings in relation to Sarver can really be considered odd, at least for him, anymore, after the timing on Watson and McD.
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Post#1347 » by BobbieL » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:31 am

bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:If they fire Igor and replace him with Kidd I'm going to take a break from this team for a bit. For **** sake the fact the bucks jumped like 20 wins after getting rid of Kidd should be enough to make him unhireable.

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As you've mentioned, I think they could fire Igor if/when Pelinka fires Walton if they know Walton will take the job. For all we know, they may already know if he would, though he may still have some years of pay with the Lakers that he would have to forego (or have reduced by Suns salary).

I would say that it would be odd to have an exit interview with Igor, not fire him, and then fire him later once news came out about Walton, but nothing about timings of firings in relation to Sarver can really be considered odd, at least for him, anymore, after the timing on Watson and McD.


Rankin in his article on Azcentral opines the team is moving forward with Igor as coach.

Always trust the best writer. They don’t speculate like bloggers or NBA Insiders, they share the truth. Remember Coro- dude was truth serum when it came to the draft and free agency.

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Post#1348 » by BobbieL » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:33 am

bwgood77 wrote:
sasquatchBob wrote:How many of you would be ok with letting Tyler Johnson start at the PG for the next season? Personally, I would like it. Team played better with him on the court. Even though the sample size is small, but him and Oubre gave the team a different feel ("the wave"), so why just not ride it out for the next season? It's not like we're in a real rush anyway. This way we could also keep Warren on the roster. In my opinion our only critical need is PF.


Ultimately I'd be fine with it. I'd rather get a clear upgrade, but I wouldn't want to trade for someone who wasn't a clear upgrade and arguably not any better than Tyler. As you said, we played very well with him in there.


Agree. Rankin suggested Rozier Rondo or Collison as PG options . Collison - yes. Rondo - okay. Rozier- no!
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Post#1349 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:36 am

bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:If they fire Igor and replace him with Kidd I'm going to take a break from this team for a bit. For **** sake the fact the bucks jumped like 20 wins after getting rid of Kidd should be enough to make him unhireable.

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As you've mentioned, I think they could fire Igor if/when Pelinka fires Walton if they know Walton will take the job. For all we know, they may already know if he would, though he may still have some years of pay with the Lakers that he would have to forego (or have reduced by Suns salary).

I would say that it would be odd to have an exit interview with Igor, not fire him, and then fire him later once news came out about Walton, but nothing about timings of firings in relation to Sarver can really be considered odd, at least for him, anymore, after the timing on Watson and McD.


All the whining we've done about inexperienced head coaches, and we're talking about Luke Walton? Over Igor??

Come on now I know we can't be that dumb.
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Post#1350 » by Blonde » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:39 am

Can this Ashley person kindly STFU? As a reporter, stating your predictions as fact is highly obnoxious.
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Post#1351 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:44 am

Blonde wrote:Can this Ashley person kindly STFU? As a reporter, stating your predictions as fact is highly obnoxious.


IDK. I got pretty tired of Coro never straying from the plainest depiction of the obvious. I can't be in the locker room or get a feel for the people since I'm not there. I like that a reporter is willing to give us their impression and not merely restating what she's told.
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Post#1352 » by Kerrsed » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:47 am

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bwgood77 wrote:
sasquatchBob wrote:How many of you would be ok with letting Tyler Johnson start at the PG for the next season? Personally, I would like it. Team played better with him on the court. Even though the sample size is small, but him and Oubre gave the team a different feel ("the wave"), so why just not ride it out for the next season? It's not like we're in a real rush anyway. This way we could also keep Warren on the roster. In my opinion our only critical need is PF.


Ultimately I'd be fine with it. I'd rather get a clear upgrade, but I wouldn't want to trade for someone who wasn't a clear upgrade and arguably not any better than Tyler. As you said, we played very well with him in there.


Agree. Rankin suggested Rozier Rondo or Collison as PG options . Collison - yes. Rondo - okay. Rozier- no!


I cant lie, i'd be down for Rondo. He has always been really solid and even impressive playing with the meme team with Lebron out of the line-up. Having a Rondo/Johnson PG combo next to a Booker/Crawford SG combo would mean constantly having a defender next to an offensive threat.
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Post#1353 » by dremill24 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:56 am

Rondo hasn’t played defense in a long time...
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Post#1354 » by AtheJ415 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:01 am

Kerrsed wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Ultimately I'd be fine with it. I'd rather get a clear upgrade, but I wouldn't want to trade for someone who wasn't a clear upgrade and arguably not any better than Tyler. As you said, we played very well with him in there.


Agree. Rankin suggested Rozier Rondo or Collison as PG options . Collison - yes. Rondo - okay. Rozier- no!


I cant lie, i'd be down for Rondo. He has always been really solid and even impressive playing with the meme team with Lebron out of the line-up. Having a Rondo/Johnson PG combo next to a Booker/Crawford SG combo would mean constantly having a defender next to an offensive threat.


Rondo hasn't been a defender in like 15 years.
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Post#1355 » by AtheJ415 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:12 am

sasquatchBob wrote:How many of you would be ok with letting Tyler Johnson start at the PG for the next season? Personally, I would like it. Team played better with him on the court. Even though the sample size is small, but him and Oubre gave the team a different feel ("the wave"), so why just not ride it out for the next season? It's not like we're in a real rush anyway. This way we could also keep Warren on the roster. In my opinion our only critical need is PF.


I'm okay with it if we draft Morant or trade back in for Garland. If we get Zion or Culver, we should be doing more to get an upgrade at the 1 around everyone, particularly given how many PGs are available.
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Post#1356 » by bwgood77 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:27 am

BobbieL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:If they fire Igor and replace him with Kidd I'm going to take a break from this team for a bit. For **** sake the fact the bucks jumped like 20 wins after getting rid of Kidd should be enough to make him unhireable.

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As you've mentioned, I think they could fire Igor if/when Pelinka fires Walton if they know Walton will take the job. For all we know, they may already know if he would, though he may still have some years of pay with the Lakers that he would have to forego (or have reduced by Suns salary).

I would say that it would be odd to have an exit interview with Igor, not fire him, and then fire him later once news came out about Walton, but nothing about timings of firings in relation to Sarver can really be considered odd, at least for him, anymore, after the timing on Watson and McD.


Rankin in his article on Azcentral opines the team is moving forward with Igor as coach.

Always trust the best writer. They don’t speculate like bloggers or NBA Insiders, they share the truth. Remember Coro- dude was truth serum when it came to the draft and free agency.

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Yeah, I don't think anyone knows for sure yet..but he seems to think so. I never thought Rankin knew too much or seemed to be too on top of things but Gina Mizell is.

It was interesting when a lot of people said TJ left quickly and didn't say anything, that Rankin has the quotes from TJ about Igor in his article...

“He was good,” Suns forward TJ Warren said. “Learning experience for a first-year coach. Everybody is going to have that learning curve. It’s how you respond to it. I feel like he’s confident in himself and his coaching staff. They can make some good things happen. As players, we’ve got to be able to get better and do the right things for how we want the season to be.”
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Post#1357 » by bwgood77 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:29 am

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
Blonde wrote:Can this Ashley person kindly STFU? As a reporter, stating your predictions as fact is highly obnoxious.


IDK. I got pretty tired of Coro never straying from the plainest depiction of the obvious. I can't be in the locker room or get a feel for the people since I'm not there. I like that a reporter is willing to give us their impression and not merely restating what she's told.


I agree she shouldn't state them as fact though. I mean saying "Igor will not be here next year" is misleading when she just could say "I get the sense (or impression) Igor won't be here next year.".
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Post#1358 » by ryanball » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:30 am

sasquatchBob wrote:How many of you would be ok with letting Tyler Johnson start at the PG for the next season?

Would rather go with Johnson than overpay for Rozier, who is not even better anyway.

Also since he's being mentioned, hard pass on Rondo. He would be the point guard version of Tyson Chandler.
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Post#1359 » by BobbieL » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:47 am

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
Blonde wrote:Can this Ashley person kindly STFU? As a reporter, stating your predictions as fact is highly obnoxious.


IDK. I got pretty tired of Coro never straying from the plainest depiction of the obvious. I can't be in the locker room or get a feel for the people since I'm not there. I like that a reporter is willing to give us their impression and not merely restating what she's told.


My take :
Coro is a beat reporter. He saw a lot, heard a lot. For him to be credible to the team - he had to protect some confidentiality to keep on the teams good side. He probably knew a lot of stuff but had to keep quiet
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Post#1360 » by Revived » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:52 am

bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:If they fire Igor and replace him with Kidd I'm going to take a break from this team for a bit. For **** sake the fact the bucks jumped like 20 wins after getting rid of Kidd should be enough to make him unhireable.

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As you've mentioned, I think they could fire Igor if/when Pelinka fires Walton if they know Walton will take the job. For all we know, they may already know if he would, though he may still have some years of pay with the Lakers that he would have to forego (or have reduced by Suns salary).

I would say that it would be odd to have an exit interview with Igor, not fire him, and then fire him later once news came out about Walton, but nothing about timings of firings in relation to Sarver can really be considered odd, at least for him, anymore, after the timing on Watson and McD.

I like Walton (or Gentry for that matter) as a lead assistant coach on this staff replacing Prunty but how can anyone feel confident that Walton will do a better job as head coach than Kokoskov?

Booker has had more HCs in his incredibly short basketball career than almost anyone else I can think of. Let’s keep some continuity.

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