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Grizzlies Relieve Bickerstaff and Demote Wallace and Hollinger

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Grizzlies Relieve Bickerstaff and Demote Wallace and Hollinger 

Post#1 » by SD2042 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:31 am

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/253316/Grizzlies-Demote-Chris-Wallace-John-Hollinger-Elevate-Jason-Wexler-To-President


https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/253315/Grizzlies-Fire-JB-Bickerstaff

It's about time these changes happen. With the history this franchise has with the moves been made to this point, it was time for a new direction to be paved. Hopefully these actions will bring about the neccessary moves to help this franchise go forward.
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Re: Grizzlies Relieve Bickerstaff and Demote Wallace and Hollinger 

Post#2 » by VCfor3 » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:09 am

Going to have to see who gets hired, but I like the overhaul and am cool with keeping Hollinger and Wallace on in lesser roles. Just don't want them calling the shots and having real power.
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Re: Grizzlies Relieve Bickerstaff and Demote Wallace and Hollinger 

Post#3 » by boogiesdad » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:56 am

I'm not even happy having Wallace as a scout. Just look at our history of picks. It's no wonder we couldn't sustain our playoff streak.

2009 1 2 Hasheem Thabeet TZA C Connecticut
2009 1 27 DeMarre Carroll USA PF Missouri (from Orlando)
2009 2 36 Sam Young USA SF Pittsburgh
2010 1 12 Xavier Henry USA SG Kansas
2010 1 25 Dominique Jones USA SG South Florida (from Denver, traded to Dallas)
2010 1 28 Greivis Vásquez VEN PG/SG Maryland (from L.A. Lakers)
2011 2 49 Josh Selby USA PG/SG Kansas
2012 1 25 Tony Wroten USA PG Washington
2013 2 41 Jamaal Franklin USA SG San Diego State
2013 2 60 Jānis Timma LVA SF BK Ventspils
2014 1 22 Jordan Adams USA SG UCLA
2015 1 25 Jarell Martin USA PF LSU
2016 1 17 Wade Baldwin USA PG Vanderbilt
2016 2 57 Wang Zhelin CHN C Fujian Sturgeons (China) (from Toronto)
2018 1 4 Jaren Jackson Jr. USA PF Michigan State
2018 2 32 Jevon Carter USA PG West Virginia

There is no way that any team could be successful with players like this.


We need a strong, young head coach that can grow up with the young team that we will have going forward, similar to a Brad Stevens type hire.
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Re: Grizzlies Relieve Bickerstaff and Demote Wallace and Hollinger 

Post#4 » by dark-child » Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:34 pm

VCfor3 wrote:Going to have to see who gets hired, but I like the overhaul and am cool with keeping Hollinger and Wallace on in lesser roles. Just don't want them calling the shots and having real power.


Unfortunately this is simply because they are under contract with the organization and if another organization wanted to hire them you could demand compensation, since their salaries and contract probably don't have an offset provision.

Chris Wallace - close to 25 - 30 years experience learning under Jerry West, Pat Riley, and Rick Pitino. (He would make a good consultant, but as a scout this is laughable, unless you just want him as far away from the office as possible)

Jon Hollinger - analytics guru, who makes his home in Atlanta and not Memphis, invented Per to measure player performance, has real value to an organization, but the data provided to the Grizzlies, was either not applied or not used properly based upon the results. Using data as sole reason to draft a particular player was also misguided but he has value going forward in the right role.
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Re: Grizzlies Relieve Bickerstaff and Demote Wallace and Hollinger 

Post#5 » by SD2042 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:43 am

boogiesdad wrote:I'm not even happy having Wallace as a scout. Just look at our history of picks. It's no wonder we couldn't sustain our playoff streak.

2009 1 2 Hasheem Thabeet TZA C Connecticut
2009 1 27 DeMarre Carroll USA PF Missouri (from Orlando)
2009 2 36 Sam Young USA SF Pittsburgh
2010 1 12 Xavier Henry USA SG Kansas
2010 1 25 Dominique Jones USA SG South Florida (from Denver, traded to Dallas)
2010 1 28 Greivis Vásquez VEN PG/SG Maryland (from L.A. Lakers)
2011 2 49 Josh Selby USA PG/SG Kansas
2012 1 25 Tony Wroten USA PG Washington
2013 2 41 Jamaal Franklin USA SG San Diego State
2013 2 60 Jānis Timma LVA SF BK Ventspils
2014 1 22 Jordan Adams USA SG UCLA
2015 1 25 Jarell Martin USA PF LSU
2016 1 17 Wade Baldwin USA PG Vanderbilt
2016 2 57 Wang Zhelin CHN C Fujian Sturgeons (China) (from Toronto)
2018 1 4 Jaren Jackson Jr. USA PF Michigan State
2018 2 32 Jevon Carter USA PG West Virginia

There is no way that any team could be successful with players like this.


We need a strong, young head coach that can grow up with the young team that we will have going forward, similar to a Brad Stevens type hire.



Wallace's draft history should've gotten his demoted or fired a long time ago. Too many misses on this list. I was pulling for Jordan Adams for a while until his knee injury required surgery three times in which Adams is no longer in the NBA and the medical staff responsible was put on the outs in the same summer as well. Out of the list, 3J stands out right now as the best prospect.

This team is well overdue for some fresh eyes and new ideas to help get this team back in the right direction. Hopefully things will work out for the best for the organization.

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