Igor fired - New Coaching Search Discussion

[BobbieL]

Well I'd expect we know Igor's future in the next 48 hours. I'd put it at about 60/40 that he returns. With them keeping Jones and buck it kind of feels like everyone gets one more year to see improvement.

But with this franchise who the hell knows.

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I think Igor will be back. But Walton was almost fired so who knows.

But Rankin wrote an article and it just “feels” like Igor will be back. But Sarver might have too much Activia with his Bran Fiber Flakes and get an idea during his executive time and decide to fire Igor

[WeekapaugGroove]

Well I'd expect we know Igor's future in the next 48 hours. I'd put it at about 60/40 that he returns. With them keeping Jones and buck it kind of feels like everyone gets one more year to see improvement.

But with this franchise who the hell knows.

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I think Igor will be back. But Walton was almost fired so who knows.

But Rankin wrote an article and it just “feels” like Igor will be back. But Sarver might have too much Activia with his Bran Fiber Flakes and get an idea during his executive time and decide to fire Igor

With the info learned last week that bill Walton and sarver are friends the scenario where Igor could be out is if he knows luke is lined up for the job assuming he actually gets fired, which I do still think happens even with magic leaving.

But on the other hand I always kind of thought Igor was a sarver hire. Of all the candidates last year Igor was the only guy who had worked for sarver before and I assume sarver was comfortable with so he might have that going for him.

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[BobbieL]

Well I'd expect we know Igor's future in the next 48 hours. I'd put it at about 60/40 that he returns. With them keeping Jones and buck it kind of feels like everyone gets one more year to see improvement.

But with this franchise who the hell knows.

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I think Igor will be back. But Walton was almost fired so who knows.

But Rankin wrote an article and it just “feels” like Igor will be back. But Sarver might have too much Activia with his Bran Fiber Flakes and get an idea during his executive time and decide to fire Igor

With the info learned last week that bill Walton and sarver are friends the scenario where Igor could be out is if he knows luke is lined up for the job assuming he actually gets fired, which I do still think happens even with magic leaving.

But on the other hand I always kind of thought Igor was a sarver hire. Of all the candidates last year Igor was the only guy who had worked for sarver before and I assume sarver was comfortable with so he might have that going for him.

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I think continuity is something that has been sorely lacking. Players improved over the season. I think it would be foolish to “start over.”

[SlovenianDragon]

We NEED to keep Igor. I didn't like him to start the year. I don't like his over all use of Ayton...But towards the end of the season there were some really really well done plays. I want to see his offensive scheme he creates and establishes next year with a healthy roster and a few new additions. I have high hopes for next year. So if he screws up next season lets say even in the first 20 games I could see him out. But have to ride with him for next season.

[BobbieL]

I want to keep Igor

But, if Vlade is stupid enough to fire Joerger - that would be a call to make

That being said, I am still keeping Igor

[WeekapaugGroove]

I want to keep Igor

But, if Vlade is stupid enough to fire Joerger - that would be a call to make

That being said, I am still keeping Igor

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I'd be cool with Joerger. Im also good bringing Igor back. But I will say my best defense of bringing Igor back is he was dealt a terrible hand this year, but that doesn't nessesary mean he's a good coach just means it's hard to judge. I was encouraged by some of the development late in the year but there were things like rotations and a sense that he coached the team he wanted vs coaching the team he had that I wasn't impressed with.

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[bwgood77]

I want to keep Igor

But, if Vlade is stupid enough to fire Joerger - that would be a call to make

That being said, I am still keeping Igor

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I'd be cool with Joerger. Im also good bringing Igor back. But I will say my best defense of bringing Igor back is he was dealt a terrible hand this year, but that doesn't nessesary mean he's a good coach just means it's hard to judge. I was encouraged by some of the development late in the year but there were things like rotations and a sense that he coached the team he wanted vs coaching the team he had that I wasn't impressed with.

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It will be interesting to see who the Kings go after. I think with some of these other firings (Joerger, probably Walton), it increases the chances Igor gets canned.

People have mentioned the team getting younger having 5 rookies in rotation and having the terrible additions of Ariza and Anderson along with having no NBA caliber PG on the roster. But I think another major thing is trying to win with a rookie non defensive C in the middle....as much as Tyson was a shell of his former self, he still provided a lot more resistance last year in there than Ayton did...same goes for Len. Now Ayton improved a lot near the end, but it was still on and off to some extent. That doesn't bother me as rookies take time, but when you have a C who can't defend the pick and roll most of the season or understand help defense, it's near impossible to win. And then of course no PG made things very tough on D since Booker was the best primary ball handler but all teams had to do was trap.

And of course the injuries were a killer. Igor's proven he's a good coach with his resume, and he was dealt about as bad as hand as you can get this year. He also strikes me as the type who would take a major step in his second year working with the players, continuing to develop them, the players learning the system, etc.

However, it will be tough for any coach when our talent lacks quite a bit in relation to other teams in the west...especially when it comes to depth and experience.

[Crives]

Do we hear about KoKos fate today? You have to think jones was told at least a week ago that he is new gm... they should know by now right? If they don’t announce it makes me think they are waiting to see if someone like Luke becomes available before announcing Igor’s fate.

[MathiasPW]

Do we hear about KoKos fate today? You have to think jones was told at least a week ago that he is new gm... they should know by now right? If they don’t announce it makes me think they are waiting to see if someone like Luke becomes available before announcing Igor’s fate.

Being the Suns, they will wait until 3 games into the season to fire him

[Crives]

Do we hear about KoKos fate today? You have to think jones was told at least a week ago that he is new gm... they should know by now right? If they don’t announce it makes me think they are waiting to see if someone like Luke becomes available before announcing Igor’s fate.

Being the Suns, they will wait until 3 games into the season to fire him

Cold.... but true

[WeekapaugGroove]

Do we hear about KoKos fate today? You have to think jones was told at least a week ago that he is new gm... they should know by now right? If they don’t announce it makes me think they are waiting to see if someone like Luke becomes available before announcing Igor’s fate.

Being the Suns, they will wait until 3 games into the season to fire him

Right? They do **** at the craziest times.


Side note, while I do think Joerger is a good coach this is the second front office he's clashed with. Now neither the griz or kings are particularly stable or well run but neither are the suns so I would have some concerns. Plus kings fans don't seem too upset with the move, not that that really means much because I'm convinced that 75% of basketball fans think their teams coach sucks.

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[lilfishi22]

With the firing of Joerger and JB, it definitely elevates the chances of Igor getting the boot as well. Not because he's necessarily bad (or great) but because if those seemingly fellow dysfuctional front offices could make those decisions then I wouldn't put it past our own dysfunctional front office either, especially with Jones in power and Trev/Bower reporting to him. This new front office didn't make the Igor coaching hire so they may want to bring in their own guy.

I still think Igor deserves a fair shot because he was set up to fail this season but then again, if Joerger who I think has shown plenty of traits of a solid coach for a young team, could get fired after (imo) overachieving despite the "creative differences" with their front office.

[WeekapaugGroove]

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Well here we go. It's possible the suns were waiting to see if luke was available before making a decision on Igor.

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[bwgood77]

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Well here we go. It's possible the suns were waiting to see if luke was available before making a decision on Igor.

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Was just going to post the same thing. I think Sarver would want to hire Walton.

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[Crives]

Kings open coaching position has to increase odds of us keeping Igor

[WeekapaugGroove]

Kings open coaching position has to increase odds of us keeping Igor

I think the number of openings in general should give them pause. I'd keep Igor but if they do move in they really need to bring in a vet coach, can't just roll the dice with another assistant.

Predicting the timing of a suns move is a fools errand but feels like if they are going to fire Igor it should be this afternoon. Need to jump in the mix on other candidates quickly.

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[ImNotMcDiSwear]

The last three times a new GM made a new coaching hire, it was (1) Kerr choosing Terry Porter as Mike D'Antoni's successor (which, with Amare's eye injury, cost us any chance of making 7-Seconds-or-Shaq work); (2) Babby handing a trainwreck to Lindsey Hunter; and (3) McDonough bringing in Hornacek.

The last new GM to decide against hiring a new HC was Lance Blanks. For Blanks, ironically, not firing Gentry was probably the best decision he made as GM aside from letting the Lakers fleece themselves to acquire Steve Nash (and, if you wouldn't count it as a victory for Sarver because why should the owner ever get credit, Blanks's signing of Goran Dragic).

In this case, unless there's some amazing coaching hire to be made, I can't see how letting go of Igor wouldn't be a terrible idea. During those two brief stretches of this season that sandwiched our victories against Milwaukee, the rotations on defense were really good, our offense flowed, and this team looked really well-coached to me.

Unless there's some amazing coaching hire to be made, I can't see how letting go of Igor wouldn't be a terrible idea. The biggest things for me are Igor's emotional steadiness and, most importantly, his basketball intellect, which I suspect is probably the best of any HC we've had since the departure of D'Antoni. I don't think there's good reason to doubt that Igor can coach a quality, mature roster to playoff success.

Am I the only one who really likes Igor?

****Can OP make a poll?*****

[lilfishi22]

The last three times a new GM made a new coaching hire, it was (1) Kerr choosing Terry Porter as Mike D'Antoni's successor (which, with Amare's eye injury, cost us any chance of making 7-Seconds-or-Shaq work); (2) Babby handing a trainwreck to Lindsey Hunter; and (3) McDonough bringing in Hornacek.

The last new GM to decided against hiring a new HC was Lance Blanks. For Blanks, ironically, not firing Gentry was probably the best decision he made as GM aside from letting the Lakers fleece themselves to acquire Steve Nash (and, if you wouldn't count it as a victory for Sarver because why should the owner ever get credit, Blanks's signing of Goran Dragic).

In this case, unless there's some amazing coaching hire to be made, I can't see how letting go of Igor wouldn't be a terrible idea. During those two brief stretches of this season that sandwiched our victories against Milwaukee, the rotations on defense were really good, our offense flowed, and this team looked really well-coached to me.

Unless there's some amazing coaching hire to be made, I can't see how letting go of Igor wouldn't be a terrible idea. The biggest things for me are Igor's emotional steadiness and, most importantly, his basketball intellect, which I suspect is probably the best of any HC we've had since the departure of D'Antoni. I don't think there's good reason to doubt that Igor can coach a quality, mature roster to playoff success.

Am I the only one who really likes Igor?

****Can OP make a poll?*****

"Do you like Igor" poll?

[ryanball]

Been critical of Igor but at this point you might as well keep him. There is some value in consistency. I think there was some improvement in terms of how the offense worked as well toward the end of the season.

His results obviously suck but the poor construction of the team, youth, and abundance of injuries can't be discounted. Those things aren't his fault.

And its not as though Walton would be some kind of home-run hire. He just got done cucking to LeBron for a season only to get fired anyway. He did fine with the Warriors but that squad was on autopilot and anyone on this forum could have 'coached' that team just as well.

[Damkac]

The last three times a new GM made a new coaching hire, it was (1) Kerr choosing Terry Porter as Mike D'Antoni's successor (which, with Amare's eye injury, cost us any chance of making 7-Seconds-or-Shaq work); (2) Babby handing a trainwreck to Lindsey Hunter; and (3) McDonough bringing in Hornacek.

The last new GM to decided against hiring a new HC was Lance Blanks. For Blanks, ironically, not firing Gentry was probably the best decision he made as GM aside from letting the Lakers fleece themselves to acquire Steve Nash (and, if you wouldn't count it as a victory for Sarver because why should the owner ever get credit, Blanks's signing of Goran Dragic).

In this case, unless there's some amazing coaching hire to be made, I can't see how letting go of Igor wouldn't be a terrible idea. During those two brief stretches of this season that sandwiched our victories against Milwaukee, the rotations on defense were really good, our offense flowed, and this team looked really well-coached to me.

Unless there's some amazing coaching hire to be made, I can't see how letting go of Igor wouldn't be a terrible idea. The biggest things for me are Igor's emotional steadiness and, most importantly, his basketball intellect, which I suspect is probably the best of any HC we've had since the departure of D'Antoni. I don't think there's good reason to doubt that Igor can coach a quality, mature roster to playoff success.

Am I the only one who really likes Igor?

****Can OP make a poll?*****

"Do you like Igor" poll?

There should be "To early to judge him" option.